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Namor and Wakanda been beefing for years in the comics.
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muscles like this! posted:More of a general thing but it is really annoying when adaptations act like they're embarrassed of the thing they're adapting and call out parts of it as being dumb. Like superhero movies mocking old costumes or hero names. The yellow spandex line is of course lame in retrospective (I dunno how many people would have thought it was cool at the time, probably I did, though I think I was barely a teenager when it came out) but "Sabertooth... Storm... What do they call you? Wheels?" is fantastic. e: Was the BK Kids Club contemporaneous with the first X-Men movie, I wonder.
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Mar 24, 2024 02:56
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But is Namor near the Yucatan/Chicxulub Crater in the comics? Like...I know the movie handwaved it away as something like "Underground waterways connect the places!" But c'mon!
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Mar 24, 2024 02:59
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They really should have saved him for the Fantastic Four. Then he could mack on Sue, pretend to make a movie, and help Dr. Doom launch the Baxter Building into space.
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Harley Quinn did a good job of making Aquaman both a hero and a douchebag at the same time.
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Harley Quinn fully embraces all the camp comics stuff and it's great.
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I loved Harley Quinn's gag with the Cancer Gun. Just when she sees the label and is just like "Oh my god, I am SO sorry..."
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Brave and the Bold has the best Aquaman. Just the best bro you could ever have. I think it got pulled because of Zaslav bullshit, but there was recently a really great Aquaman cartoon on HBO Max. It had incredibly silly animation where it leaned fully into being a cartoon. And the cast was perfect: Cooper Andrews is great as Aquaman (definitely pulling mainly from the Brave and the Bold version, but less competent), Gillian Jacobs as an extremely goofy Mera, and Dana Snyder playing the most childish, moronic version of Ocean Master imaginable. And I’m not sure you can even watch it anywhere! A huge loving shame. It’s only three episodes.
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Android Apocalypse posted:You know Wade will make fun of Logan for wearing the yellow & blue uniform in Deadpool & Wolverine. If anything more likely Deadpool will gush over it, much to Wolverine's annoyance and confusion.
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Mar 24, 2024 09:09
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TGG posted:Just lean into the badass undersea hammy royal insane Brave and the Bold version. It works no matter what. poo poo just have John DiMaggio play him live action, it still works. And add the musical numbers. I'm seriously pretty sure BatB was a major influence on Mamoa Aquaman.
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Go figure  IRL actions just takes me out of The Flash.Shame too as I thought both movies are kind of fun.
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It's a shame comic book movies can't just lean into it and recast while continuing. The Batman movies sort of did before Nolan, 2006's Superman Returns was clearly a continuation of Reeves' portrayal, but all three Spider-Man series had to reboot per new actor.
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That we use real live actors to portray comic book heroes is indicative of the dark age of cinema in which we live. Can we just be done with actors, finally, and replace them with capable acrobats wearing mocap suits and voice actors (but not the same five voice actors who voice everything; there should be millions of voice actors and zero live actors except on stage where they fuckin belong)
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credburn posted:That we use real live actors to portray comic book heroes is indicative of the dark age of cinema in which we live. Can we just be done with actors, finally, and replace them with capable acrobats wearing mocap suits and voice actors (but not the same five voice actors who voice everything; there should be millions of voice actors and zero live actors except on stage where they fuckin belong) I feel like this post is attacking Andy Serkis in some way, and I won't stand for that! Or it could be asking for more Andy Serkis, in which case, go for it!
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Mar 24, 2024 22:42
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Andy Serkis is far too good an actor to be buried under cgi, we strayed from god's light when directors started being embarrassed to just put muppets in their films when they needed a type of guy that doesn't exist.
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Pilchenstein posted:Andy Serkis is far too good an actor to be buried under cgi, we strayed from god's light when directors started being embarrassed to just put muppets in their films when they needed a type of guy that doesn't exist. No, that guy is called Michael Knight. I saw a documentary this one time.
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Fil5000 posted:It seems like that's because everyone responsible for media production is horny for origin stories. Like, Civil War was the first time they just accepted that we know Spider-man's origin story and skipped it, before that every cartoon, tv show and movie series HAD to tell us that he got bitten by a radioactive spider despite it being maybe the most well known superhero origin aside from Superman being an alien from Krypton. True. Though it seems more excusable for guys like spiderman who randomly get their powers and suddenly have to deal with being a guy with powers. A teen going through Spiderman is a better character at 15 than 25. Due to how live action movies are made a single actor can only play highschool-age spiderman for 3 movies.
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i know it's animated but the Older Loser Spiderman was legit the best part of Into The Spiderverse.
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Cowslips Warren posted:i know it's animated but the Older Loser Spiderman was legit the best part of Into The Spiderverse.
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Origin stories for heroes that have had their stories played out need to be the Into-the-Spiderverse style, a quick monologue over a 20-second montage.
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Morpheus posted:Origin stories for heroes that have had their stories played out need to be the Into-the-Spiderverse style, a quick monologue over a 20-second montage. Batman, suspended over agiant vat of boiling mac'n cheese: Yep, that's me! You are probably wondering how I got in this situation...
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Mar 25, 2024 14:05
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I liked how Watchmen used the opening credits montage for the exposition in setting up the world.
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Grendels Dad posted:Batman, suspended over agiant vat of boiling mac'n cheese: Yep, that's me! You are probably wondering how I got in this situation... wasnt Batman TAS 's first episode/pilot not an origin episode? hell they dont do origins for the Robins either , they do them later and just have the series hit the ground running.
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Batman media in particular has a long history of a cold openings taking down a usually unrelated villains. Bond often does something similar. It's a great trick, it establishes the character doing what he does.and being a badass, and his place in the world, and lets you use a set piece that might not otherwise fit into the rest of the story.
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Spider-Man was particularly egregious because they did an origin story movie three times in fifteen years.
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PhazonLink posted:wasnt Batman TAS 's first episode/pilot not an origin episode? hell they dont do origins for the Robins either , they do them later and just have the series hit the ground running. Notably, it's only ever referenced once in the 66 series, and only one sentence in the first episode. I'm not even sure if they mention Robin's origin.
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Android Apocalypse posted:I liked how Watchmen used the opening credits montage for the exposition in setting up the world.
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The Fantastic Four films have also struggled because they try to tell the origin story or a version of it each time. In the latest reboot (Fan4stic) the origin story is the catalyst for the plot so its writers finally wisened up but i think it's too late. Another reboot is coming and it will commit the same mistake of wasting 25 minutes explaining why Ben is a rock.
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CJacobs posted:The Fantastic Four films have also struggled because they try to tell the origin story or a version of it each time. In the latest reboot (Fan4stic) the origin story is the catalyst for the plot so its writers finally wisened up but i think it's too late. Another reboot is coming and it will commit the same mistake of wasting 25 minutes explaining why Ben is a rock. Which is hilarious because the 90s cartoon summed up their origin and powers in the thirty second opening song. Edit: Sorry, it's sixty seconds, but like half of that is a load of synth horns. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XggH5-vLlUQ
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Have the new MCU FF4 movie crib from Dan Snyder's Watchmen opening credits montage and we'll be all set.
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Equalizer 3 The villain behaves in such a ridiculous fashion just prior to the final showdown I spent the whole of the denouement boggling instead of rooting for Denzel. This is rationally irritating, but it irritated me to an irrational degree.
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Tim Burton's Batman didn't need an origin story because Batman was as much a mystery to us as he seemed to be for everyone in the movie. They'd heard about him, they know he fights crime, but they don't know any more than that, and we as the audience don't need to know much more than that for it all to work just fine.
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The 1989 Batman movie works in the origin story but it doesn't start with it, but only shows snippets through the film. The opening with the family being mugged but not being the Wayne's was a good fakeout.
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Android Apocalypse posted:Have the new MCU FF4 movie crib from Dan Snyder's Watchmen opening credits montage and we'll be all set. They could recreate the 60s cartoon intro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eue8XngYdzM
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they should just do the terrific trio , oh and then reveal surprise this is a batman beyond movie.
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I just started Resident Alien season 3 after watching season 2 over the weekend (and season 1 a long time ago) and it's kinda off putting how it's supposed to follow season 2 directly but also the actor playing Max (a kid) clearly hit puberty and grew a bunch in between seasons. It's less noticeable with Sahar because of her headscarf and stuff. Also I just don't like Max anymore, his childish/foolish shtick was funny and cute at first (maybe because it's balanced out by Sahar's down to earth and intelligent traits) but at this point he's just an idiot surrounded by exaggerated but somewhat grounded characters. Even within the context of the show his decision making and grasp of the situations he gets in are pretty much at a special needs level. The first two seasons establish that he kinda seems the understand the gravity of everything and then this season he made some new friends because Sahar left and the first thing he does is take them to the alien and threaten him with a tazer show his real form because he has this fantasy of being the new Alien Hunter (or whatever it was). I know it's a comedy show but the comedy is in the fact that the characters are all at least somewhat grounded except for the alien, but Max functions on the level of a 6 or 7 year old and nobody seems fazed by that at all.
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PhazonLink posted:they should just do the terrific trio , oh and then reveal surprise this is a batman beyond movie. NGL, originally I thought you meant Batman/Robin/Batgirl by Terrific Trio. I forgot there was literally a group called that in Batman Beyond.
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Android Apocalypse posted:Have the new MCU FF4 movie crib from Dan Snyder's Watchmen opening credits montage and we'll be all set. Dan Snyder's watchmen would be even worse than Zach Snyder's
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I'm reminded how part of X-Men's original deal was to have a shared superhero origin so they wouldn't need to come up with a new one for every single character. But then Wolverine has probably enough origin story for everyone.
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