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Gonz posted:When Data and Picard are on Romulus in "Unification", they're given free soup from a restaurant, because the owner belives them to be secret police and wants to butter them up. They mean soup free of the normal poisons.
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Romulan society is post scarcity, but they still keep the Remans enslaved, not because they need to, just because they’re dicks
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LividLiquid posted:They have replicators, so if they have an economy at all, it's one borne of artificial scarcity, which would be really interesting to explore. If they announce the next NuTrek spinoff is going to explore Klingon and Romulan NFTs, that will be the day I truly am finished with Star Trek forever.
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Thaddius the Large posted:Romulan society is post scarcity, but they still keep the Remans enslaved, not because they need to, just because they’re dicks Quiet literally, yes. They frickin took their home star system from them by force and made it the capital of their empire. From the Romulan perspective, they basically HAVE to keep the Remans under their heel from now till the end or time of they're gonna do exactly what Shinzon did in Nemesis the first chance they get.
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Taear posted:Here's a thing: what is the economy of the Klingon, Romulan and Cardassian empires? True post scarcity is impossible unless the society is at like dyson sphere/Matrioshka brain levels of technology. Brainpower at the very least will always be a finite resource. Its a missed opportunity that we haven't really seen what a Klingon Empire engineer is like. IShallRiseAgain fucked around with this message at 06:31 on Mar 25, 2024 |
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IShallRiseAgain posted:True post scarcity is impossible unless the society is at like dyson sphere/Matrioshka brain levels of technology. Brainpower at the very least will always be a finite resource. 
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Big Mean Jerk posted:There’s no universe in existence where that loser became the permanent chief engineer Argyle on the comms: captain did you just try to contact me Captain: no, no we didn't. Argyle: ok Argyle: well Argyle: if you need me I'm down here, good old Engineer Argyle *5 mins later* Argyle: hey
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McSpanky posted:-TNG with Yaphet Kotto as Picard, Jeffrey Combs as Riker, Denise Crosby and Marina Sirtis switched roles and Argyle as the chief engineer I want to see the TNG with Edward James Olmos as Picard.
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nine-gear crow posted:I want to see the TNG with Edward James Olmos as Picard. Mr. Data, so say we all.
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Arivia posted:Mr. Data, so say we all. Picture Stewart's already legendary death glares and filibusters as Picard and then add Olmos's thermonuclear intensity to them.
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Olmos just going ham smashing every Enterprise model in the Ready Room, including the ones he wasn't meant to break
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Seemlar posted:Olmos just going ham smashing every Enterprise model in the Ready Room, including the ones he wasn't meant to break Olmos would definitely have picked up the Stargazer model and whipped it at Jonh De Lancie's head at one point during the various Q-Picard ready room scenes across TNG.
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Nessus posted:They also seem to enjoy but not require live food, and I recall that one Klingon was disgusted at the prospect of eating replicated/cooked food. You mean when Kurn had to be convinced to try the burned replicated bird meat?
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nine-gear crow posted:I want to see the TNG with Edward James Olmos as Picard. Make Michael Hogan Data and now we're talkin'. You've got the perfect setup for Q Who? where Data can tell Picard, 'They're in the frakkin' ship!". More seriously: I'd honestly like to see what they would have done if TOS season 3 had been allowed to be completed. The Joy Machine is an interesting premise for an episode and I would have liked to see it go to production, if only for S3 era cheesy Shatnerian acting.
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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:You mean when Kurn had to be convinced to try the burned replicated bird meat? IShallRiseAgain posted:True post scarcity is impossible unless the society is at like dyson sphere/Matrioshka brain levels of technology. Brainpower at the very least will always be a finite resource.  I figure it mostly refers to things like the necessaries of life and products beyond that in the value chain, so to speak.
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That said, I believe Multivac is working on the problem, so I'm sure a solution will be found before it comes up.
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We live in a society with an absurd surplus of resources now and if push comes to shove we just burn surplus grain for the good of the economy, it's not hard to imagine how imperial societies maintain an artificial scarcity around preserving self-evidently important systems of power and control
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Yea I kinda imagine the Romulans having social currency of some kind, how well you serve the state means how much resource you have. Of course capitalism isn't that far away from that concept anyway but it'd be interesting to see anyway Finished Peak Performance yesterday. Not going to bother with Shades of Grey. That means it's the last time I'll see Pulaski and it's so strange to me that she's here for one season then never gets mentioned ever ever again
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I sometimes forget she was even on the show.
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WhiteHowler posted:She finished her TOS run this week, after adding a couple of episodes (including one infamous one). We watched Wrath of Khan yesterday and she had no idea what was coming. Addendum: My friend was so upset about the end of The Wrath of Khan that I suggested we watch The Search for Spock over the weekend. Even up until the end she didn't believe that he'd actually come back since Leonard Nimoy wasn't in the opening credits cast.
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Powered Descent posted:DS9 with Ro is something I'd be very eager to see if we could get TV from parallel universes (yes, like in that Rick and Morty episode). It might be worse, it might be better, but gently caress, it would be fascinating to see. Other Star Trek what-ifs in that category include: My two big what-ifs are: - Planet of the Titans, directed by Phil Kaufman and starring Toshiro Mifune as the Klingon heavy, actually gets made. - Nimoy gets his way on The Search for Spock and Edward James Olmos, not Christopher Lloyd, is cast as Kruge.
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Taear posted:Finished Peak Performance yesterday. Not going to bother with Shades of Grey. That means it's the last time I'll see Pulaski and it's so strange to me that she's here for one season then never gets mentioned ever ever again She gets a grand total of one more mention, when Dr. Crusher brings up the memory wipe that Pulaski did to Data's pen pal -- I think it's in Who Watches the Watchers.
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Timby posted:My two big what-ifs are: If we are taking requests: -The ENT movie which would be the real series and silver era ender, and in which we actually see the Earth-Romulan war and Federation starting to take shape. And not the version we got, where Riker under serious conflict of morality decides to not watch porn while on duty. -The Tarantino "Its all ganster planet" movie. And if potentially terrible ideas are allowed: -The first pitch for Generations, where TOS and TNG crew end up fight it out to decide which timeline gets saved.
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WhiteHowler posted:She finished her TOS run this week, after adding a couple of episodes (including one infamous one). We watched Wrath of Khan yesterday and she had no idea what was coming. Good takes. Nice post.
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Phy posted:Good takes. Nice post. 
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Der Kyhe posted:And if potentially terrible ideas are allowed: My dream what-if on this is saving the story of "Yesterday's Enterprise" for the first TNG movie, and doing it with the TOS crew in the -A.
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How about saving the two part Worf introduction in DS9 as a movie too? The whole Klingon-Federation war would have made for pretty good film fodder.
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My dream is ending tng after all good things and not making a bunch of movies I have to ignore.
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Timby posted:- Nimoy gets his way on The Search for Spock and Edward James Olmos, not Christopher Lloyd, is cast as Kruge. I'd say Olmos walks off set after a week because he can't stand the Klingon makeup and thinks the script is dogshit, never does anything sci-fi related again.
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Boxturret posted:My dream is ending tng after all good things and not making a bunch of movies I have to ignore. But how can you not love old doddering Picard, sad fat Riker, and all the nostalgia bait you never wanted?
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Eason the Fifth posted:But how can you not love old doddering Picard, sad fat Riker, and all the nostalgia bait you never wanted? See this seems to be a long lost trick, but when I feel nostalgic for TNG I can just rewatch TNG, see Picard making strong speeches and Riker stepping over chairs as many times as I want, I don't need them to gather everyone again and waste a ton of money and time just showing how old and sad everything is in the future.
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Boxturret posted:We have here 18000 letters in support of the amazing Chief Argyl. Wow, that's amazing. Such a round number.
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Boxturret posted:See this seems to be a long lost trick, but when I feel nostalgic for TNG I can just rewatch TNG, see Picard making strong speeches and Riker stepping over chairs as many times as I want, I don't need them to gather everyone again and waste a ton of money and time just showing how old and sad everything is in the future. But don't you want to see the Enterprise-D powerslide through a Borg cube? Isn't that so cool? Remember when you were a child and you watched TNG after school? Don't you want to be a child again?
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Boxturret posted:See this seems to be a long lost trick, but when I feel nostalgic for TNG I can just rewatch TNG, see Picard making strong speeches and Riker stepping over chairs as many times as I want, I don't need them to gather everyone again and waste a ton of money and time just showing how old and sad everything is in the future. There was nothing inherently wrong with the idea of making a followup show where we see what the now-admiral Picard is up to, and have some DS9/VOY/TNG characters show up every now and then, or be part of the series. They just did pretty much everything besides the basic premise for each season wrong or didn't think it through, and when they finally relented and committed to a TNG sequel or epilogue season it was done in the hackiest way possible, with the stupidest use of Borgs and their technology to date. Matalas cannot even go to a fetal position because then every pothead in the tristate area would try to kick him.
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nine-gear crow posted:I'd say Olmos walks off set after a week because he can't stand the Klingon makeup and thinks the script is dogshit, never does anything sci-fi related again. I'd pay real earth dollars to see Olmos playing a Klingon captain like El Pachuco.
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Powered Descent posted:She gets a grand total of one more mention, when Dr. Crusher brings up the memory wipe that Pulaski did to Data's pen pal -- I think it's in Who Watches the Watchers.
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Knormal posted:It is kind of weird how they made all these efforts to keep Denise Crosby around when Yar was in way fewer episodes. I'm sure there's some probably unpleasant behind-the-scenes explanation. Not especially unpleasant. Crosby's main complaints were the writing for Yar and the need for her to be standing on set for hours even on days she had no lines. The writing got better (she even said that if there had been more scenes like her and Worf just chatting at the beginning of "Skin of Evil," she wouldn't have asked to leave), and the second one wasn't an issue as a guest star, so bringing her back was pretty easy. On the other hand, the fans didn't care much for Pulaski, Diana Muldaur didn't care much for TNG and the incessant technobabble, and Crusher had only left because Maurice Hurley harassed and then fired Gates McFadden (which is the unpleasant part, yes). Muldaur didn't want to return for season 3 anyway, and once Hurley left and McFadden returned, everyone just kind of wrote it off as "all's right with the world now, let's move on."
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disaster pastor posted:Crosby.....the need for her to be standing on set for hours even on days she had no lines. I'm inclined to say that tactical being a constantly standing position is kinda dumb. I get the idea but it would be a 24th century OSHA nightmare, I'm sure.
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disaster pastor posted:Not especially unpleasant. Crosby's main complaints were the writing for Yar and the need for her to be standing on set for hours even on days she had no lines. The writing got better (she even said that if there had been more scenes like her and Worf just chatting at the beginning of "Skin of Evil," she wouldn't have asked to leave), and the second one wasn't an issue as a guest star, so bringing her back was pretty easy. I need to find the video again but Marina Sirtis told a story at a con that her job was probably saved by Crosby leaving. Sirtis said that Majel Roddenberry confided in her that Gene had been told by producers that they wanted to remove either her or Crosby.
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Penitent posted:I need to find the video again but Marina Sirtis told a story at a con that her job was probably saved by Crosby leaving. Sirtis said that Majel Roddenberry confided in her that Gene had been told by producers that they wanted to remove either her or Crosby. Which is madness when really the "redundant" jobs were clearly worf/tasha
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