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What is the most powerful flying bug?
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🦋 15 3.71%
🦇 115 28.47%
🪰 12 2.97%
🐦 67 16.58%
dragonfly 94 23.27%
🦟 14 3.47%
🐝 87 21.53%
Total: 404 votes
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Dokapon Findom
Dec 5, 2022

They hated Futanari because His posts were shit.
A nazi collaborator just is a nazi :colbert:

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DaysBefore
Jan 24, 2019


Gee I wonder what flag those millions of Ukrainians were fighting under when they died

Worst part of all this is ignoring the true legacy of Ukrainians during WW2, which is that millions served in the Red Army to fight against the Nazis and the few tens of thousands Ukrainian collabs

VoicesCanBe posted:

The Baltic states are insane lol. Electing a Nazi collaborator twice, wild.

Seriously. And not just the Baltics doing poo poo like this, wasn't the wartime King of.... Romania (?) elected president after communism fell? Like goddamn

VoicesCanBe
Jul 1, 2023

"Cóż, wygląda na to, że zostaliśmy łaskawie oszczędzeni trudu decydowania o własnym losie. Jakże uprzejme z ich strony, że przearanżowali Europę bez kłopotu naszego zdania!"

Oh my God lmao

Russians "ran afoul" of Nazi racism, he's half an inch away from saying they deserved it

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

mila kunis posted:

what ever happened to the bottlemen. i know one of the cohosts got chased off twitter by NAFO

That was pretty much that. I think someone tried to get them in poo poo IRL, which in Canada is actual legal stuff and not just culture war "cancellation".

It was a fantastic pod on Canadian politics, but that's a reminder why there's not good podcasts on Canadian politics. The Chapos would have lost their day jobs before they ever took off here.

I have to be careful when it comes to posting about the monument stuff, but I know a bit about the project, and everyone at Heritage is under the barrel of a gun because the people pushing for collaborators' and perpetrators' names to be included will 100% gently caress up your life, in the national press, if you push back. That's the best case. Worst case is using the new anti-hate speech laws, written to include the Holodomir, to drag you in front of a Human Rights Tribunal, which means temporary suspension from a museum (Crown Corporation) or the civil service.

Chrystia Freeland's grandfather should be excluded because he published the names and addresses of Jews in his collaborator newspaper, but if you work in public history, see how impartial the civil service really is if you try to go ahead with that.

DJJIB-DJDCT has issued a correction as of 22:37 on Mar 25, 2024

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

lol it goes back to the myth of a tiny group of Nazis illegally seizing power.

"Sure, these people are outnumbered and no one supports them, but they're in charge of the entire state now because...?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJnxmAh1yGg

"The attacks orchestrated by the Sons of Jacob to the Capitol, The White House and the Supreme Court, which led then to Martial Law and the Suspension of the Constitution."

Oh, well, if you can attack the three magic buildings, instead of being called out to crush you, the army divisions march back to their barracks to await your orders, which they will obey without hesitation. :dumb:

This is not because the army and ruling class support you, and have all along, as well as the majority of the middle class, but because they respect the law, and if the law says you're in charge, befel ist befel. The army machine-gunned a protest of people against the illegal seizure of power, not because they wanted to, but because the people who illegally seized power... ordered them to? But they didn't machine gun those people, when they were seizing power because...?

loving Harry Potter logic.

so i watched the full episode of this and the larger context is even more counterintuitive than youd think this is the third of three flashback sequences in the first one june is asking her husband to sign for birth control this apparently being a thing they have to do now before eventually going eh gently caress it why bother lets have another kid then in the second one her kids school and then the hospital gives her poo poo for sending her daughter to school with a mild fever because apparently another new commonly accepted rule is that kids have to stay home for forty eight hours if they have a fever and youre a bad mother for wanting them to go to school just so you can go work instead of taking care of them sidebar the political implications of this plot point read hilariously differently postcovid

anyway my broader point is as far as we can tell the protogilead people are winning the culture war theyve already gotten public institutions to sign off on stupid policies and theres not really any indication of why theyre successful theres zero evidence of a fertility crisis because why is june allowed to have birth control pills at all if the purpose of these policies was to improve the birthrate apparently though this piecemeal success isnt good enough so protogilead decides to do a terrorism to topple the united states government and within a few years theyve so greatly accelerated culture change that people now accept without question that aristocratic polygamy as derived from god is now the foundation of governmental legitimacy

i think its kindof implied that the government was in on the attack or something just as an excuse to declare martial law so they could do all the christian fascism stuff faster but its also kindof implied that theres a fertility crisis in general the handmaids tale is just really uninterested in explaining who the commanders and the council are and how and why they were able to amass so much military power that they could coup the american government its a bit remarkable just how little real worldbuilding there is for a show thats had five seasons most of the energy is just dedicated to gratuitous torture porn and i kid you not those three flashbacks were literally surrounded by mass hangings chinese water torture burning oven handcuffs a pregnant woman roped to a stake like a dog just whatever gross poo poo you can imagine

the second episode of the second season did lighten the mood tho by having a scene where june watches the friends episode where they talk about erogenous zones

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

DaysBefore posted:

Seriously. And not just the Baltics doing poo poo like this, wasn't the wartime King of.... Romania (?) elected president after communism fell? Like goddamn

that was bulgaria

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

Some Guy TT posted:

within a few years theyve so greatly accelerated culture change that people now accept without question that aristocratic polygamy as derived from god is now the foundation of governmental legitimacy

I have never really understood what liberals think culture is and how it works, because to them this is a totally feasible transformation of a culture within living memory.

Idk, I was just at a conference where someone marvelled that Italian Canadians didn't lose their culture and religion within four generations, and it's like... I know everyone really wants to believe official multiculturalism is magic and we can just create bugmen at the drop of a hat, but all of these "obstacles" to modernity work for a reason, and they would similarly be obstacles to completely deranged reaction.

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

dont think we need handmaids tale recaps in this thread please

slave to my cravings
Mar 1, 2007

Got my mind on doritos and doritos on my mind.

lobster shirt posted:

dont think we need handmaids tale recaps in this thread please

thank you

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

Hatebag posted:

lol i hope when america collapses someone turns one of those amphibious duck tour boats into an uparmored technical

I was at the Battle of Lake Union

/thousand yard stare

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

lobster shirt posted:

dont think we need handmaids tale recaps in this thread please

it's better than dumbass idiot contrarian posting.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Also Zizek wouldn't shut up about it either, which is how I ended up watching two seasons or something.

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

lest i be accused of stifling discussion, a thread has been created: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4057127

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

Starsfan posted:

Pretty sure that was Latvia. They were going to kick out seniors that had lived in Latvia since childhood if they couldn't demonstrate fluency in Latvian. Have to get rid of those potentially subversive elements in society

such is life

genericnick posted:

why would this dude panic

wait, the Lithuanian president was literally a former US army intelligence NCO? LMAO

Spergin Morlock has issued a correction as of 23:05 on Mar 25, 2024

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

I am interested in a recap of that Friends episode though

Skaffen-Amtiskaw
Jun 24, 2023

Nix Panicus posted:

I am interested in a recap of that Friends episode though

Putler's lips are the zone of erogenous.

Oh, that's not enough? Okay, check this out: what if Ukraine... wins?

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

Spergin Morlock posted:

such is life

wait, the Lithuanian president was literally a former US army intelligence NCO? LMAO

Remember when the end of democracy in Georgia was just a copy paste of the US foreign funding law?

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

I have never really understood what liberals think culture is and how it works, because to them this is a totally feasible transformation of a culture within living memory.

Idk, I was just at a conference where someone marvelled that Italian Canadians didn't lose their culture and religion within four generations, and it's like... I know everyone really wants to believe official multiculturalism is magic and we can just create bugmen at the drop of a hat, but all of these "obstacles" to modernity work for a reason, and they would similarly be obstacles to completely deranged reaction.

to liberals, multiculturalism just means a new place to grab lunch at and a token minority that tells them that they're cool and good

Skaffen-Amtiskaw
Jun 24, 2023

Gentrifying neighbourhoods into every national eatery outlet known to man operating at minimum wage in the name of progress.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

mlmp08 posted:

E: hell, part of why ISIS, for a time, was as successful as it was in parts of Syria and northern Iraq was ability to deliver basic services or settle longstanding no-decision disputes. Some of their bureaucracy worked for a while, until basically everyone in the region (and from outside of it) decided to stomp them into the dirt because their actions and ideology pissed off basically everyone outside of local villages that were just happy to have trash removal, etc.

They co-opted the local bureaucracy rather than creating their own.

Ardennes
May 12, 2002
Supposedly, one of the SBU buildings that was hit was hit by a Zircon from in/around Crimea with a transit time of 6 minutes, and early warning systems could only kick in 10-15 seconds before impact. It does seem there is a escalation on the part of the Russian government either way.

Also, the Turkish government, supposedly with Russian cooperation, knocked over an 'ISIS' camp within their borders that Ankara "didn't know about." It is kind of funny, considering that Ankara is also pushing a peace deal at the same time.

There seems to be a uptick of intensity in the fighting but at least no signs of a new offensive or anything to that effect.

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Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t10AXLuTUEM

They really believe that Nazism is spread by vibes, even though the scene starts at a loving staffing agency.

All of the women have master's degrees and professional jobs, but the men are thuggish losers who couldn't hold down a job at Walmart before the coming of the Fourth Reich. :dumb:

the flashback structure from this episode is intriguing in thats it very much an underpants gnome style escalation we start out with ok this is how they recruited for their coup army economic anxiety caused all the loser men to sign up with the sons of jacob which seems to be some kind of masonic lodge organization not a real job but whatever by the time we get to the second flashback the commanders are mid takeover of the united states and the job issue is completely forgotten its all about the fertility crisis and how we need to solve that problem by rounding up all the fertile women and letting high class men impregnate them

now the impression is obviously that in between these two flashbacks nick went from angry because he couldnt hold down a job to just accepting without question that concubinage is the solutions to all their problems because uh the bible said so but its just about impossible to imagine how they could sell this to any foot soldiers that apparently the whole purpose of this revolution theyre dying for was to solve the fertility crisis by not allowing anyone to have sex (???) the commanders are less worried about regular citizens or their own soldiers opposing this policy compared to their wives not because the wives have political power in their own right but because women am i right and this problem is solved with the weirdass ritual where youre only allowed to have sex with a handmaid if your wife is in the room and no one is enjoying it

these flashbacks are framed by june going with her commander to the jezebel club and the significance of this aside from the usual lurid garbage is that it establishes that the commanders are hypocrites who dont actually believe any of this religious crap because look at how horny they are at the cabaret old chum this all ties nicely to the nazi hypnotism post that started all this out because as we can see hardly anyone in gilead actually seems to believe in any of their founding principles except maybe the aunts is why the self interested hypocrisy of the commanders is the most damning thing we see here the trouble with all this is that we have to assume that everyone in gilead is too stupid to observe that none of gileads policies seem to have anything to do with solving the problems that they promised to solve in order to get guys like nick to join in the first place

like the implication here seems to be that nick is one of the good ones because hes smart enough to realize that all of this stuff is a crock of poo poo when its impossible to come to any other conclusion even without the inside information about gilead that nick has access to a liberal might look at all this and say well what about trump because they just see his persuasive abilities as magical and the fact that hes forcefully been dragging the republican party to a centrist position on abortion is something they have to ignore because it suggests that even a guy like trump has to consider what his supporters are likely to go along with he doesnt expect them to believe literally everything he says no matter how obviously self interested

anyway sorry for getting so off topic any news on ukraine getting more funding its weird that zelensky keeps saying this is an existential emergency but none of his friends in nato are willing to take him seriously

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my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

Some Guy TT posted:

anyway sorry for getting so off topic any news on ukraine getting more funding its weird that zelensky keeps saying this is an existential emergency but none of his friends in nato are willing to take him seriously

it's really funny how much it mirrors the way Trump is talked about as an existential threat

do something!

CODChimera
Jan 29, 2009

Ardennes posted:

Supposedly, one of the SBU buildings that was hit was hit by a Zircon in/around Crimea with a transit time of 6 minutes, and early warning systems could only kick in 10-15 seconds before impact. It does seem there is a escalation on the part of the Russian government either way.

Also, the Turkish government, supposedly with Russian cooperation, knocked over an 'ISIS' camp within their borders that Ankara "didn't know about." It is kind of funny, considering that Ankara is also pushing a peace deal at the same time.

There seems to be a uptick of intensity in the fighting but at least no signs of a new offensive or anything to that effect.

the last couple of missile strikes look like they caused a lot of damage, possibly in response to the drone attacks on the refineries but either way things seem to be escalating

and that was before the shooting

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

:psyduck:

I hadn't even made that connection, but yeah lol. The guys who were pissed they couldn't get a job or a good woman, now definitely can't get a good woman, right?
Though maybe you should x-post your great posts about the show to the dedicated thread?

I wonder what it's like being a 18-25 year old Ukrainian guy, since the economy seemed trashed, and I can't imagine there are many women left who didn't flee for Europe?

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

They are also fleeing to Europe.

VoicesCanBe
Jul 1, 2023

"Cóż, wygląda na to, że zostaliśmy łaskawie oszczędzeni trudu decydowania o własnym losie. Jakże uprzejme z ich strony, że przearanżowali Europę bez kłopotu naszego zdania!"

Spergin Morlock posted:

wait, the Lithuanian president was literally a former US army intelligence NCO? LMAO

Zodium posted:

The West Is A Single Nondecomposable System

Ardennes
May 12, 2002
I guess the question is if the West is seriously trying to bait the Russians into an offensive or to directly attack NATO troops, and if getting European boots on the ground would make a difference.

It may very well mean that the Pentagon and the rest of the beltway have moved past the Oryx/Ukrainian numbers they were banking on, and as the news suggests, have accepted the Ukrainians are in bad shape and the only way to increase Russian causalities in an impulsive offensive. The worse thing for both the Ukrainians and the West is for them to slowly pick them apart as they have been doing since even fewer Russians are dying than before and the Ukrainians can't handle slowly grinding warfare.

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

:psyduck:

I hadn't even made that connection, but yeah lol. The guys who were pissed they couldn't get a job or a good woman, now definitely can't get a good woman, right?
Though maybe you should x-post your great posts about the show to the dedicated thread?

I wonder what it's like being a 18-25 year old Ukrainian guy, since the economy seemed trashed, and I can't imagine there are many women left who didn't flee for Europe?

Probably either being students or living at home with very worried parents; there is a reason why they didn't touch that route. It is true there was a time when young men were expected to give them lives without a second thought but I think younger generations (in both Russia/Ukraine) have steadily have had a more Western style mindset when it comes to service.

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VoicesCanBe
Jul 1, 2023

"Cóż, wygląda na to, że zostaliśmy łaskawie oszczędzeni trudu decydowania o własnym losie. Jakże uprzejme z ich strony, że przearanżowali Europę bez kłopotu naszego zdania!"

Danann posted:

Remember when the end of democracy in Georgia was just a copy paste of the US foreign funding law?

2 or 3 weeks after Georgian democracy was almost destroyed if not for a few brave heroic pro-European protesters, the EU passed the exact same law with zero fanfare.

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

:psyduck:

I hadn't even made that connection, but yeah lol. The guys who were pissed they couldn't get a job or a good woman, now definitely can't get a good woman, right?
Though maybe you should x-post your great posts about the show to the dedicated thread?

I wonder what it's like being a 18-25 year old Ukrainian guy, since the economy seemed trashed, and I can't imagine there are many women left who didn't flee for Europe?

just watched the new ukraine documentary “enemy in the woods” and it seems the 19 year olds are surprisingly enthusiastic about defending the mother land. The >50 year olds seem miserable and resigned to an early death and no 30-40year olds exist anymore

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Jel Shaker posted:

just watched the new ukraine documentary “enemy in the woods” and it seems the 19 year olds are surprisingly enthusiastic about defending the mother land. The >50 year olds seem miserable and resigned to an early death and no 30-40year olds exist anymore

That's just normal 19 year olds and > 50 year olds though

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Jel Shaker posted:

just watched the new ukraine documentary “enemy in the woods” and it seems the 19 year olds are surprisingly enthusiastic about defending the mother land. The >50 year olds seem miserable and resigned to an early death and no 30-40year olds exist anymore

Are they in uniform?

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
Enemy in the Woods, sound like a hip horror movie.

I would name my early WW3 documentary a little more sober.

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

lobster shirt posted:

lol most of that 900k is lithuanian

like im sure a bunch of this decline is just people moving to more prosperous parts of the EU but how do leaders not panic looking at those numbers? well, i guess that helps explain the far-right over there lol. demographic collapse is actually happening.
demographic collapse alone doesn't explain the whole story, it's also who's deciding to stay, and most people won't want to fight for or have the stomach to overturn the neoliberal hellscape

so that leaves you with only the hardcore ideological hanger-ons. and since anything resembling actual left immediately gets murdered in the west, lol, and i cannot stress this enough, lmao

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

sullat posted:

That's just normal 19 year olds and > 50 year olds though

i never had a 'enthusiastic about defending the motherland' phase :(

Skaffen-Amtiskaw
Jun 24, 2023

Champing at the bit to have their blood be one with the soil.

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer
https://x.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1772341828534014269?s=20

quote:

Today, I attended an iftar.

Last year, we established a new tradition of celebrating the holy Ramadan together: our country's political leadership, the military command, representatives from the Ukrainian Muslim community, the Crimean Tatar Mejlis, and the diplomatic corps. Unity is always important, especially in times of war and evil strikes.

Since March 11, when Ramadan began this year, there has not been a single quiet and safe day without Russian terror for all Ukrainians and the Ukrainian Muslim community. Nothing is sacred or valuable to Putin; he does not care who suffers or what faith he destroys because he only believes in violence. And he must lose—necessarily—as ensured by all of our people working together, everyone who contributes to the common good.

May Ramadan bring blessings to all of us—our people and our state. And may our unity stand firm. Ramadan Mubarak!

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

Regarde Aduck posted:

i never had a 'enthusiastic about defending the motherland' phase :(

We had a guy blow up his life for some Ukrainian sniz.

Though part of it was that being a Canadian Captain gave him the relative purchasing power of a high roller. I can't imagine being in the Ukrainian Army helps you get girls, but I have no idea what Ukrainian culture is like rn, maybe there is social cache to freezing in the trenches.

Starsfan
Sep 29, 2007

This is what happens when you disrespect Cam Neely
The 18 - 25 cohort were volunteering to serve probably the same as anyone else in Ukraine in the wake of the initial Russian invasion in 2020, they've just never conscripted that age cohort in mass.. but I'm not sure there's this huge untapped pool of manpower that's available to Ukraine the way you might think..

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SIGSEGV
Nov 4, 2010


Cachet. And no I imagine it's terribly plebeian, even gauche, and also that when the women also get conscripted the ones that will survive will probably live in terror of ever being reminded of what it was like.

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