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because they’re children
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# ? Mar 10, 2024 02:46 |
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# ? May 11, 2024 09:46 |
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Approaching a 1:1 ratio of "directors" to real employees, a sign of a healthy organization.
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# ? Mar 10, 2024 03:26 |
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the layoff resolution just passed, so the 45 day period of negotiation with the union on what the layoffs will look like starts now. the target of 12 that was proposed is based on that being the expected number to get the national org to be solvent through the end of 2025, and those 12 include both union staff and managers for the union staff. coincidentally, the last time the national org was in a healthy financial state was the start of 2020, with about the same number of members and revenue as right now and 20 national staff members, as opposed to 32 now
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# ? Mar 12, 2024 02:52 |
I don't think the dsa needs 32 paid national staff members Maybe they should try organizing and robbing a bank or something
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# ? Mar 12, 2024 05:29 |
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fermun posted:the layoff resolution just passed, so the 45 day period of negotiation with the union on what the layoffs will look like starts now. the target of 12 that was proposed is based on that being the expected number to get the national org to be solvent through the end of 2025, and those 12 include both union staff and managers for the union staff. coincidentally, the last time the national org was in a healthy financial state was the start of 2020, with about the same number of members and revenue as right now and 20 national staff members, as opposed to 32 now the PR department has a staff of 4. The only time I ever see DSA in the news is after a spectacular fuckup or Twitter fight. so what the gently caress are those 4 people doing?
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# ? Mar 12, 2024 18:28 |
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Grilled Beef posted:the PR department has a staff of 4. The only time I ever see DSA in the news is after a spectacular fuckup or Twitter fight. so what the gently caress are those 4 people doing? well, at least one of us is posting here ✋🫰
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# ? Mar 12, 2024 18:30 |
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support your local dsa grifters and respect the hustle
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# ? Mar 12, 2024 18:31 |
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aw frig aw dang it posted:support your local dsa grifters and respect the hustle tristeham posted:get that bag hitlerites
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# ? Mar 12, 2024 18:37 |
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# ? Mar 12, 2024 18:42 |
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it's been very funny how hard the dsa staff union is fighting for the jobs of the non-union managerial staff in this layoff negotiation process. they're not union members! how do you have no class consciousness as an ostensibly socialist union staff member of a socialist organization? and the union proposals so far have been to reduce the catering budget at the bi-annual convention (which is usually set by the venue and is not enough to save any jobs) and to ask for members to do phone banks to other members asking them to increase their monthly dues so that dsa can afford to keep all of the staff, including their managers.Grilled Beef posted:the PR department has a staff of 4. The only time I ever see DSA in the news is after a spectacular fuckup or Twitter fight. so what the gently caress are those 4 people doing? that's technically the "communications" department, 3 of whom are solely for within dsa communication and one of whom spends less than 5 hours a week advising chapters on PR
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 03:37 |
socialism is when your government sets its freedom and equality sliders to the upper 2/3 of the bar, while making sure to not let the equality slider get higher than the freedom slider
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 03:42 |
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fermun posted:it's been very funny how hard the dsa staff union is fighting for the jobs of the non-union managerial staff in this layoff negotiation process. they're not union members! how do you have no class consciousness as an ostensibly socialist union staff member of a socialist organization? and the union proposals so far have been to reduce the catering budget at the bi-annual convention (which is usually set by the venue and is not enough to save any jobs) and to ask for members to do phone banks to other members asking them to increase their monthly dues so that dsa can afford to keep all of the staff, including their managers. $50 - Mailers $200 - Catering $1500 - Newspaper $950 - Annual Convention $13,450,569 - National Staff Pay $460 - Research Someone help me budget, my political movement is dying.
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 04:02 |
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SgtMongoose posted:$50 - Mailers
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 04:24 |
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fermun posted:it's been very funny how hard the dsa staff union is fighting for the jobs of the non-union managerial staff in this layoff negotiation process. they're not union members! how do you have no class consciousness as an ostensibly socialist union staff member of a socialist organization? and the union proposals so far have been to reduce the catering budget at the bi-annual convention (which is usually set by the venue and is not enough to save any jobs) and to ask for members to do phone banks to other members asking them to increase their monthly dues so that dsa can afford to keep all of the staff, including their managers. The nazi party was ostensibly socialist
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 14:59 |
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Weka posted:The nazi party was ostensibly socialist so you've finally found a group you want to join?
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# ? Mar 24, 2024 16:30 |
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Lol
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# ? Mar 25, 2024 09:59 |
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But yes, I think I am going to join the farmers union
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# ? Mar 25, 2024 10:00 |
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fermun posted:it's been very funny how hard the dsa staff union is fighting for the jobs of the non-union managerial staff in this layoff negotiation process. they're not union members! how do you have no class consciousness as an ostensibly socialist union staff member of a socialist organization? and the union proposals so far have been to reduce the catering budget at the bi-annual convention (which is usually set by the venue and is not enough to save any jobs) and to ask for members to do phone banks to other members asking them to increase their monthly dues so that dsa can afford to keep all of the staff, including their managers. i dont think you know what youre talking about here
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# ? Mar 25, 2024 22:48 |
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jarofpiss posted:i dont think you know what youre talking about here Can you help explain the situation then
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# ? Mar 26, 2024 00:33 |
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do we still have the Maori third worlder?
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# ? Mar 26, 2024 00:35 |
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Golden Bee posted:do we still have the Maori third worlder? Lol you made me check my post for spelling, but I am only normal in the normal sense, ie maori, not normal in the sense of Maori.
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# ? Mar 26, 2024 01:20 |
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Ytlaya posted:Can you help explain the situation then maybe after this all resolves but at the moment i’m not going to here i will say i think it’s sad that people who have dedicated their careers to organizing, and took the low pay jobs at dsa in lieu of continuing to work in organized labor, are getting to hang out in limbo and watch the most ignorant, unserious, and uninformed posers argue about their livelihoods on twitter and internet forums. this npc is so incompetent it’s shocking (or intentional sabotage).
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# ? Mar 27, 2024 22:24 |
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vote.
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# ? Mar 27, 2024 22:31 |
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jarofpiss posted:this npc is so incompetent it’s shocking (or intentional sabotage). Do you think it's this NPC? Seems like the driving factor is membership dropped over the last few years and there's not enough dues to pay as many people as there were a few years ago. Or are you just talking about the messy internet drama?
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# ? Mar 27, 2024 23:05 |
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khazar sansculotte posted:Do you think it's this NPC? Seems like the driving factor is membership dropped over the last few years and there's not enough dues to pay as many people as there were a few years ago. membership dropped because of how dumb national was acting in more than one domain
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 00:05 |
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jarofpiss posted:unserious
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 00:12 |
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Second Hand Meat Mouth posted:membership dropped because of how dumb national was acting in more than one domain I understand that, but "this NPC" has only been in office like 8 months or whatever. I wasn't sure if OP was saying "this NPC" is to blame for membership dropping (seems unlikely), for the internet drama (plausible, I guess, I don't know how they are or aren't contributing to it), or maybe meant to say "the NPC," or what.
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 00:22 |
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khazar sansculotte posted:I understand that, but "this NPC" has only been in office like 8 months or whatever. I wasn't sure if OP was saying "this NPC" is to blame for membership dropping (seems unlikely), for the internet drama (plausible, I guess, I don't know how they are or aren't contributing to it), or maybe meant to say "the NPC," or what. with the way the caucuses work, I don't think it's fair to consider each NPC in a vacuum. They're necessarily continuations of previous ones, with maybe a few wildcard independents Like, I just saw an email (I swear it's impossible to get anyone in DSA to stop emailing you) from someone on the previous NPC talking about some campaign to fight back against the layoff of staff and they were absolutely one of the people that contributed to the problems people on the previous NPCs assuming membership would always remain at its peak, carelessly hiring staffers and agreeing to every travel stipend ever proposed, and then kicking the can down the road about the grievance officer contractor really is fundamentally unserious behavior
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 01:10 |
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unserious hitlerites...
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 04:06 |
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tristeham posted:unserious hitlerites...
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 06:47 |
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Eminent DNS posted:with the way the caucuses work, I don't think it's fair to consider each NPC in a vacuum. They're necessarily continuations of previous ones, with maybe a few wildcard independents Sure, but that just brings us back to the original question: what is notable about "this NPC" with respect to staff layoffs, etc., as opposed to any previous one(s)? Genuinely curious. I haven't kept up with any NPC drama since Danny fetonte. khazar sansculotte has issued a correction as of 07:53 on Mar 28, 2024 |
# ? Mar 28, 2024 07:51 |
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Should probably join PSL instead
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 10:57 |
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khazar sansculotte posted:Do you think it's this NPC? Seems like the driving factor is membership dropped over the last few years and there's not enough dues to pay as many people as there were a few years ago. Eminent DNS posted:with the way the caucuses work, I don't think it's fair to consider each NPC in a vacuum. They're necessarily continuations of previous ones, with maybe a few wildcard independents The last time DSA had the current number of members was in January 2020 and had 20 staffers, now we have 32. The last two NPCs have been a majority from what are now the two caucuses that hired the 12 extra staffers, including hiring 3 people a month before the 2023 convention. Those same two caucuses have proposed cutting sharing dues to local chapters and holding permanent weekly phonebanking calls to existing members asking them to increase their dues in order to make sure we can have 0 staff layoffs, because that fundraising is going to 100% be successful in raising the 1.5 million dollars a year that was needed. khazar sansculotte posted:Sure, but that just brings us back to the original question: what is notable about "this NPC" with respect to staff layoffs, etc., as opposed to any previous one(s)? Genuinely curious. I haven't kept up with any NPC drama since Danny fetonte. It has been accused by the NPC minority that the current NPC majority want DSA to be a member-led organization instead of a staff-led organization so want staff layoffs to fund member-led initiatives instead of our very successful staff-led initiatives like the DSA 100k campaign, or phonebanking Dems to legalize abortion nationwide, or phonebanking Dems to pass the PRO act, or phonebanking Dems to end support for Gaza genocide
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 11:33 |
Dick Suckers Alliance lol. The NPC is the Nice Penis Club
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 11:58 |
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fermun posted:The last time DSA had the current number of members was in January 2020 and had 20 staffers, now we have 32. The last two NPCs have been a majority from what are now the two caucuses that hired the 12 extra staffers, including hiring 3 people a month before the 2023 convention. Those same two caucuses have proposed cutting sharing dues to local chapters and holding permanent weekly phonebanking calls to existing members asking them to increase their dues in order to make sure we can have 0 staff layoffs, because that fundraising is going to 100% be successful in raising the 1.5 million dollars a year that was needed. *thinking as hard as I can* "What if the problem with the newspapers was that they weren't annoying enough?"
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 12:39 |
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DaysBefore posted:Dick Suckers Alliance lol. The NPC is the Nice Penis Club 😂
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 13:04 |
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DaysBefore posted:Dick Suckers Alliance lol. The NPC is the Nice Penis Club remembering the sex worker pool party fiasco all over again
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 13:14 |
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fermun posted:very successful staff-led initiatives like the DSA 100k campaign, or phonebanking Dems to legalize abortion nationwide, or phonebanking Dems to pass the PRO act, or phonebanking Dems to end support for Gaza genocide
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 13:28 |
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it kind of sounds like the NPC has only ever been useless but more because of the greater philosophical problem of DSA actions at every level just blasting volunteer hours and donor money into the dark money pit of the loving democratic party instead of doing anything else
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 13:31 |
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# ? May 11, 2024 09:46 |
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does the dsa still do brake light clinics
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# ? Mar 28, 2024 13:54 |