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For the Three Body Problem Fermi Paradox, there's a good Charles Pellegrino novel from the '90s called The Killing Star that covers the same sort of material but with a future humanity who has their poo poo pushed in from the first paragraph. It's pretty fun, especially as we brought back dinos and Jesus and Buddha are in space and VR games of the Titanic are a thing:quote:The great silence (i.e. absence of SETI signals from alien civilizations) is perhaps the strongest indicator of all that high relativistic velocities are attainable and that everybody out there knows it. Personally, I prefer the Revelation Space trilogy take on why the universe appears quiet. Also, on the timescales that we would be talking about for such civs to pop up and colonise space at subluminal speeds using von Neumann probes etc., you can in the relative blinking of an eye take up a huge amount of resources and space. That was Fermi's whole point originally, so it's not like resource wars wouldn't be a thing if you did have many such species coming about and even just using generation ships to spread. But naturally, there is no stealth in space and anyone who wants to take a pop at another civ is going to paint a target on themselves. Something also brought about in the original novels Liu wrote anyway, so he kinda just proved that point. As for the show, I'm on episode five next and it's okay. I don't find it dragging, though I'm also now pondering the Tencent one even if by all measures it's probably not worth it having read the books already.
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F Stop Fitzgerald posted:it is still worth watching for any Cage fans though, its a top 10 maybe even top 5 performance Yeah Dream Scenario was a Cage showcase he really disappeared into that character. A little broad by the end but worth it for that alone. Made me wanna rewatch Pig tho. What a great movie that is.
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Skaffen-Amtiskaw posted:For the Three Body Problem Fermi Paradox, there's a good Charles Pellegrino novel from the '90s called The Killing Star that covers the same sort of material but with a future humanity who has their poo poo pushed in from the first paragraph. It's pretty fun, especially as we brought back dinos and Jesus and Buddha are in space and VR games of the Titanic are a thing: I dont know how relevant this is but Central Park is super safe and people do help each other out if they're in trouble.
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dream scenario was a mess but i enjoyed it anyway. should have ended at the first ending
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Mr Hootington posted:Just saw Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire. It was a decent movie. A bit stupid in parts but overall I enjoyed it. I was getting a little snoozy towards the middle, and some of the cast from the previous film turning up was a bit "eh" (what, exactly, does Stranger Things kid do in these films?). That said, I did enjoy it more than the previous one, which had a third act that undid any of the slow burn intrigue of the first two acts. It was very much like a TV episode got adapted to a full length run time with all the filler added and such. I just wish they'd adapted "Future Tense" instead or something.
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That is how I felt. A few spots dragged. I didn't need podcast to show back up, but Dan Ackroyd as Ray fit very nicely into a grandfatherish role. Janine and Peter weren't needed. It does feel like a "The Real Ghostbusters" episode which helps and hurts it.
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Shageletic posted:I dont know how relevant this is but Central Park is super safe and people do help each other out if they're in trouble. I think the allusion was to Central Park in the '70s and '80s which, from what I heard, was not super pleasant. I wouldn't really go to any big city park late at night in principle, though not because of aliens.
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Shageletic posted:I dont know how relevant this is but Central Park is super safe and people do help each other out if they're in trouble. Yeah the "you will inevitably be horribly murdered in the inner city" reveals the burger brain of the author" Even if you accept the premise of the thought experiment, the differences that he himself concludes with undermine the whole analogy. If the night never ends and you can never get out of the park, the most easily terrified person will still eventually agree that trying to find some other people, even if they might be dangerous, is preferable to living as a hermit under a bush forever.
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ModernMajorGeneral posted:Yeah the "you will inevitably be horribly murdered in the inner city" reveals the burger brain of the author" We need to team up with someone else to stop the Battle: Los Angeles aliens from stealing our water, the most precious and rare material in the universe. EDIT: Actually, just remembered that the last chapter to The Killing Star basically addresses the "you better wipe out the other side thoroughly, else you just hosed yourself" point as you need a total extermination AND to hope no one else saw you launching RKVs at a system for it to pay off. Skaffen-Amtiskaw has issued a correction as of 03:04 on Mar 27, 2024 |
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Skaffen-Amtiskaw posted:For the Three Body Problem Fermi Paradox, there's a good Charles Pellegrino novel from the '90s called The Killing Star that covers the same sort of material but with a future humanity who has their poo poo pushed in from the first paragraph. It's pretty fun, especially as we brought back dinos and Jesus and Buddha are in space and VR games of the Titanic are a thing: i think the issue with this is it's the product of a dark mind assuming everyone is as hosed up as he is and that the things he's thinking of darkly are ontological also i do kinda have inhibitions against killing a chicken. Not to the point where i couldn't do it but it's there. I would rather not murder a chicken. I think this guy just hates animals and extrapolated from there lol.
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Regarde Aduck posted:i think the issue with this is it's the product of a dark mind assuming everyone is as hosed up as he is and that the things he's thinking of darkly are ontological I had a book on Fermi paradox explanations which was probably 100 or so possibilities long, yet I can't help finding the Grimm fairy tale take to be more compelling for the fiction that comes with it (something about "oh, they're too far away" or "they're amoebas, no phone home" just sucks more than "we're all alone"). So yeah, given the weight given to the plausibility of such scenarios depends on personal outlooks, it would seem it can vary quite wildly in interpretation. As for animals, I think in this instance it's usually an ant nest or something similar. We probably would care about killing a chicken, yes. I don't think many people give two shits about ants, and especially if said ants are where you want to build your new lawn decking or whatever. Reminder that conquering the Americas and the race for Africa were with members of our own species and, yikes.
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I've read some Jung and viewing Dream Scenario that lens is kinda fascinating. E: Like his whole thing was about unconscious desires versus your conscious actions and factors (Ego), and basically Paul is such a disaster of a human being and expresses so little of his unspoken desires that its shadow (the parts he keeps hidden) leaks out into the collective unconscious and fucks everything up. E2: and the goal is to reconcile the two into a self realized Self, expressing those desires and I guess he kinda got there at the end? Shageletic has issued a correction as of 03:23 on Mar 27, 2024 |
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drat horror queefs posted:Oh hell yeah back to Snyder discourse see you in a week everybody, hugs and kisses It doesn't usually last more than a day or two ime but better safe than sorry, namaste Nix Panicus posted:Someday Snyder is going to do a straight version of Starship Troopers and its going to be his magnum opus Already did friend, tho I dunno if it's his best loquacius posted:Still love the "300 was obviously satire because there's a scene where some guys in the background are fighting a training dummy -- a man made of straw. how clear does he have to make it???" take Foreground, it's the focus of a whole fight sequence Plus don't forget which character is narrating! netizen posted:Well according to his podcast he has plenty of sex so I'm sure he'll be fine. It's so funny to me he quit cumtown and ultimately ended up podcast that's basically cumtown, but just him. I enjoy both but cumtown is nothing like Stavy's World, c'mon For starters, cumtown was very funny F Stop Fitzgerald posted:mandy owns  Skaffen-Amtiskaw posted:We need to team up with someone else to stop the Battle: Los Angeles aliens from stealing our water, the most precious and rare material in the universe. That's just in-universe media speculation, there's no reason to assume it's true
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Blood Boils posted:
That's a point, been a while since I saw it and yeah, typically alien civs don't give a PowerPoint on why they decided to conquer. Though the ID4 guys just want to be good consumers, and Wells' Martians wanted to do a little imperialism on the Brits for a treat.
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Blood Boils posted:Foreground, it's the focus of a whole fight sequence lmao
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F Stop Fitzgerald posted:color out of space has the worst cage performance ever. hes been in a lot of worse movies but this was the first one where he was just doing half-hearted impression of himself. It would have been a good performance in a bad movie but the movie didn't suck so it was unnecessary
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F Stop Fitzgerald posted:color out of space has the worst cage performance ever. hes been in a lot of worse movies but this was the first one where he was just doing half-hearted impression of himself. He slips into a trump impression for no reason randomly lol. Bizarre performance
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In Training posted:He slips into a trump impression for no reason randomly lol. Bizarre performance admittedly, I do this constantly as well
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Blood Boils posted:Foreground, it's the focus of a whole fight sequence durrrr
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DaysBefore posted:Wasn't comparing anything. yes, you were
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Skaffen-Amtiskaw posted:But the rules do not apply to other species. Both humans and wolves lack inhibitions against killing chickens. lol god this poo poo is so stupid dark forest stories are always myopic and uninteresting cause the premise is so simple and childish. stories proposing interstellar civilizations that use wooden spaceships and do all their calculations via abacus offer more conceptually and philosophically interesting promise
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it's not that big a deal but watching the last season of curb and going through some of the old ones, it just strikes me not only how unique the show is but also how it's basically impossible for anything like it to happen again. things are just too fragmented and there's nothing like seinfeld as the backdrop to it all, not to mention the star power even of like salman Rushdie. it's not necessarily bad just makes one feel old.
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*maybe* nicholas Cage could do such a thing, in his own way, I guess. he's old too
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Dark forest is just projecting western civilization's inherent sociopathy on the rest of the universe, but how likely is it for a sociopath civilization to actually make it into interstellar space before killing their own planet through exploitation?
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Snyder adapted 300 like he did Watchmen, a near panel to panel reenactment where they don’t need a script because they just recite the speech bubbles. 300 the comic is a racist, homophobic, fascist screed written by a real life right wing maniac who hates Muslims so much that when DC fired him because he was making a comic where Batman brutalizes Muslims, he went ahead and made the comic anyway with Great Value Batman. 300 is 100% sincere. Whether Snyder was too dumb to understand the implications of the story or not, or believed it was his job to adapt it straight regardless of personal feelings, or whatever I don’t know. The whole “How did the narrator know about the parts he wasn’t there for? It must be a clue!” Is just another example of media illiteracy. Where people can no longer understand either the age old story telling device of the in-universe narrator segueing into omniscience so that the audience can see the fun stuff, or conversely that sometimes bad writing/plot holes are just that, and not some secret message about what a movie “really” means.
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mawarannahr posted:*maybe* nicholas Cage could do such a thing, in his own way, I guess. he's old too Truly one of the greatest living actors. I watched Joe recently and thought it was amazing, and that's aside from the most beautiful dog I've ever seen.
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indigi posted:lol god this poo poo is so stupid You may have read it, but there's a short story called "The road not taken" that's like this, where the the other civilizations have faster than light travel but still fight with swords and flintlocks, it's pretty good.
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galagazombie posted:Snyder adapted 300 like he did Watchmen, a near panel to panel reenactment where they don’t need a script because they just recite the speech bubbles. 300 the comic is a racist, homophobic, fascist screed written by a real life right wing maniac who hates Muslims so much that when DC fired him because he was making a comic where Batman brutalizes Muslims, he went ahead and made the comic anyway with Great Value Batman. 300 is 100% sincere. Whether Snyder was too dumb to understand the implications of the story or not, or believed it was his job to adapt it straight regardless of personal feelings, or whatever I don’t know. the 'plot hole' is the name for that pit with all the positively depicted dead babies in it
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josh04 posted:the 'plot hole' is the name for that pit with all the positively depicted dead babies in it You're, understandably, thinking like a person who doesn't consider a pit full of dead babies badass. Now think like Frank Miller.
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F Stop Fitzgerald posted:color out of space has the worst cage performance ever. hes been in a lot of worse movies but this was the first one where he was just doing half-hearted impression of himself. Yes, I heard Good Things about it but thought it was fairly flat. Even Cage seemed a bit lifeless. Regarding Three Body Problem, it was always going to be a tough adaptation. It's a classic science fiction story - lots of thinly drawn characters info dumping constantly to illustrate Big Ideas. So it would have to change for TV. On the other hand, why even make it?
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My conspiracy theory is that they made Three Body Problem bad, on purpose, to sow sinophobia.
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indigi posted:lol god this poo poo is so stupid Got bad news if you think it’s only modern Western civs that enacted wars of extermination and conquest.
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Scallop Eyes posted:You may have read it, but there's a short story called "The road not taken" that's like this, where the the other civilizations have faster than light travel but still fight with swords and flintlocks, it's pretty good. By Harry Turtledove oddly enough. I think his deal works best in short story form. I like how most of it is from the POV of the aliens, who are smart enough to figure out what's happened and the implications of it. And while vaguely described it presents a good reason for its premise.
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Wonder how long until someone starts making shows out of Harry Turtledove books. Looking forward to the discourse around the one where Afrikaner supremacists give Robert E. Lee an AK47
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This is what the inside of every prepper shelter looked like
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DaysBefore posted:Wonder how long until someone starts making shows out of Harry Turtledove books. Looking forward to the discourse around the one where Afrikaner supremacists give Robert E. Lee an AK47 I legit want them to so I can actually see what those books were all about without wasting time reading them. I’m amazed SyFy never did them in the 2000s.
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