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Given Leviathan stuff, do you think that Jumsoon or Aseah are here?
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PetraCore posted:What do you mean? Given the mention of leaving the Heights to follow a Mistress and being friends with the wayward wolf, she's clearly in Nelly's place. As Nelly mentions in Cathy's room, Mrs. Earnshaw is the one who sealed the basement in the first place. With the discussion of ghosts by child Catherine it makes me think the manor itself is the villain of the canto and possesses one of the golden boughs while Catherine has the other.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 01:50 |
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LostRook posted:As Nelly mentions in Cathy's room, Mrs. Earnshaw is the one who sealed the basement in the first place. With the discussion of ghosts by child Catherine it makes me think the manor itself is the villain of the canto and possesses one of the golden boughs while Catherine has the other.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 02:33 |
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Goatse James Bond posted:I don't think I can bring Sinkoutis to the fight without restarting the dungeon Outlet?utis? Outler? Butis or maybe Butlis if you are feeling kind.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 02:57 |
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Junpei posted:Given Leviathan stuff, do you think that Jumsoon or Aseah are here?
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 03:18 |
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PetraCore posted:What do you mean? Given the mention of leaving the Heights to follow a Mistress and being friends with the wayward wolf, she's clearly in Nelly's place. i thought they specified she followed edgar but I guess I skimmed too much anyway i'm kinda surprised Meursault was the gang leader and not like Lockwood but I guess Meursault is just emotionally distant rather than boring and self-absorbed
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 03:22 |
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Yinlock posted:i thought they specified she followed edgar but I guess I skimmed too much
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 03:38 |
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Isn't Dongrang one of the background Butlers again in Outis' upgraded picture, just like in Pequod Yi Sang's.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 05:38 |
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https://twitter.com/LimbusCompany_B/status/1773565581423509632quote:Hello. This is Director Kim Jihoon of Project Moon.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 05:39 |
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Crazy how the people who believe in insane wild conspiracies about artwork believe there's an insane wild conspiracy about artwork. Who could have seen this coming?
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 06:56 |
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This is about the brief chibis before the makeover, and red headband people (Korean Incels) were like "AHA VELLMORI IS STILL INVOLVED".
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 07:36 |
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From what I've gathered from part 1, it's clear that Cathy's whole 'mirror' thing—making the butlers take the mirrors out of the manor, 'looking at herself in the mirror' when the 'guest' arrived, is referring to the capital-M Mirror. I wonder if she was shown a version of herself that's happy with Heathcliff in it, the same way Kromer supposedly saw The Faust Who Grips and patterned herself based on that. And if so, how does this whole manor play get her closer to that? Because they've clearly set up that Cathy is still around in some way with all the ghost talk, even if she's not alive per se—maybe her Identity has been forced over somebody else?
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 07:50 |
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Numbus26 posted:From what I've gathered from part 1, it's clear that Cathy's whole 'mirror' thing—making the butlers take the mirrors out of the manor, 'looking at herself in the mirror' when the 'guest' arrived, is referring to the capital-M Mirror. I wonder if she was shown a version of herself that's happy with Heathcliff in it, the same way Kromer supposedly saw The Faust Who Grips and patterned herself based on that. And if so, how does this whole manor play get her closer to that? Because they've clearly set up that Cathy is still around in some way with all the ghost talk, even if she's not alive per se—maybe her Identity has been forced over somebody else? Kromer. Even more than you've suggested. A figure deeply entwined with the past of a Sinner is shown a vision of them through the Mirror of their "ideal" version, and then they're given the opportunity to meet said Sinner again. Kromer with going back to Sinclair's hometown just as we arrive, and Cathy with the Golden Bough. This is basically the exact same scenario as Canto 3, complete with descending beneath a manor to retrieve the Bough. Methinks that Canto 3 and Canto 6 have the same puppeteer pulling the strings...
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 08:27 |
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May be early to call it but Cathy seems 200% more stable/sympathetic than Kromer ever was though. I don't doubt us fighting her, but it could be a Mirror Heathcliff, or Linton or Hindley getting worse.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 08:32 |
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I reckon Ghost Cathy controlling mirror Linton, Heathcliff and Hindley
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 08:39 |
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Lord_Magmar posted:I reckon Ghost Cathy controlling mirror Linton, Heathcliff and Hindley That would make sense because of how much Butler Outis' story differs from the Canto. In that universe it seems like the families are colluding to hunt down Heathcliff and Hindley maybe still owns the manor. I wonder if the IDs are going to build up the backstory of the eventual boss in a way we haven't seen before.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 08:48 |
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Junpei posted:May be early to call it but Cathy seems 200% more stable/sympathetic than Kromer ever was though. I don't doubt us fighting her, but it could be a Mirror Heathcliff, or Linton or Hindley getting worse. And she isn't going to like that. Edit: Actually, looking back, that's a pretty big theme of all the Cantos so far. A Sinner confronting or cutting ties with someone who controlled their life in some way - Greg with his mom, Rodya with Sonya, Sinclair with Kromer, Yi Sang with the League, Ishmael with Ahab and now Heathcliff with Cathy... GilliamYaeger fucked around with this message at 08:58 on Mar 29, 2024 |
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also Rabbit Meursault is Matthew right?
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 08:54 |
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LostRook posted:That would make sense because of how much Butler Outis' story differs from the Canto. In that universe it seems like the families are colluding to hunt down Heathcliff and Hindley maybe still owns the manor. I wonder if the IDs are going to build up the backstory of the eventual boss in a way we haven't seen before. It seems you were onto something. New IDs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7jd3lnGIGA
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Numbus26 posted:It seems you were onto something. New IDs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7jd3lnGIGA Oooh...that's actually a really concerning thought. Perhaps the true villain of this piece is an alternate version of Heathcliff who became a Ring bigshot, colluding with our version of the Ring to infiltrate our universe and take our Heathcliff's place...? Edit: Also RIP 4/4 Shi Ryoshu theory. You were a thing that could have been cool. GilliamYaeger fucked around with this message at 10:40 on Mar 29, 2024 |
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https://twitter.com/LimbusCompany_B/status/1773632477011071018 Alas.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 12:23 |
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I mean, aside the obvious lack of manpower/resources, it's true that dropping an April fools event in the middle of a canto would be a bit of a whiplash.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 12:32 |
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Called it. Faust 00 butler. That said, is Edgar Heir Gregor meant to be Linton? Cause in that case it implies we aren't actually done with him yet. Unless in that universe Gregor is more healthy than Linton.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 15:32 |
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Lt. Lizard posted:Really loved the Ryoshu advice of " if there are people pissing you off that much, why don't you just kill them". I agree with that and I also found Ryoshu's soft spot for Heathcliff surprising/charming but I don't think it was entirely that. When she started picking a fight with the Oufi she specifically said that something wasn't right here, and Ryoshu is both very familiar with a lot of nasty stuff and the most combat experienced of the Sinners/the only one who noticed the Shi fixers in Canto 4. Which immediately got distracted because Gregor assumed she was trying to fight for Heathcliff and then sleepytime smack and then things got weird so we never learned what it was she thought was wrong, but... PetraCore posted:Something that stood out to me in this section of the Canto is that Nelly and Josephine are clearly loyal to different Mistresses, although Josephine seems ultimately loyal to Wuthering Heights itself as a stand-in to Joseph using God as his battering ram of judgement in the book. Given Josephine is a generation older at the least than Nelly, who still seems of an age with Hindley in Limbus Company, I'm guessing the Mistress Josephine is loyal to is Mrs. Earnshaw, which is interesting because she's such a minor character in the book because she dies when Catherine is... like, 7? Mrs. Earnshaw definitely seems to be shaping up to be important with her involvement sealing off the basement and whatever Mrs. Danvers/Rebecca poo poo is going on with her and Josephine. Though Heathcliff's comment about the flowers at Wuthering Heights makes it seem like both older Earnshaws were up to shady stuff. Outis' ID actually has a ton of really weird lore about what's going on with Josephine, Mrs. Earnshaw, and the basement-apparently there's...something under the house, 'hypogean waters', which Josephine is obsessed with 'drinking'. (I also like that generally names in the City are completely gender-neutral and I wouldn't have batted an eye if she was named Joseph but the old lady obsessed with tradition and the status quo has her name feminized. It's a nice touch.)
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 16:54 |
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So, they keep going on about some kind of Hunt. Anyone got a clue about that?
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 16:57 |
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Numbus26 posted:It seems you were onto something. New IDs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7jd3lnGIGA Wasn't expecting Gregor to be the next 000 but I guess he's due for one. Gregor is somehow even more cursed than Meursault though, he hasn't had a good ID in ages the butlers in general are pretty messed up and play into limbus' whole theme of people doing bad things in service of some vague ideal that will have made it all Worth It, in this case the fulfillment of their "contract" that can take generations. p.s it is apparently a Taboo to not work yourself to death solely for the fulfillment of some deal your great-grandpa made.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 18:00 |
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KobunFan posted:So, they keep going on about some kind of Hunt. Anyone got a clue about that? I just assumed it was Heathcliff returning and everyone is all horned up to super murder him
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 18:01 |
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Dead Rabbits Meursault refers to Heathcliff as a hound, and Butis refers to the hunt being for a hound returned as a wolf. It is curious that there is actually a banquet happening in the mirrorverse. More implications of shenanigans happening with two very different timelines affecting one another.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 19:09 |
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LostRook posted:Dead Rabbits Meursault refers to Heathcliff as a hound, and Butis refers to the hunt being for a hound returned as a wolf. (Great to see my suggestion already being in use) And, of course, Heathcliff's EGO with Alleyway Watchdog lines up nicely there with the wolf and lightning theme.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 19:16 |
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Yeah, the ID stories are implying a world where Heathcliff came back with a single-minded focus on revenge and war, and if the timelines collide, our Heath is going to have to wrestle with the consequences of the man he might've been.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 19:45 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ko982byZuA Man, Don's VA is going all-out lately.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 21:59 |
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GilliamYaeger posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ko982byZuA Beach Volley BURRRRRRR
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 22:15 |
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Lt. Lizard posted:I mean, aside the obvious lack of manpower/resources, it's true that dropping an April fools event in the middle of a canto would be a bit of a whiplash. I'm suspicious that he's lying, tbh it would be a funnier April fools that way
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 23:03 |
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Should have released the trailer ID on April First and teased Cathy Ishmael just for maximum chaos.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 23:08 |
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Thinking about what we've seen of Catherine so far, and I'm not convinced she's the villain of the Canto even if she's definitely up to some weird and shady poo poo and may or may not be dead. I'm actually leaning towards not dead, because Nelly didn't see the body and we know Linton would lie about things to conspire with her. But the Oufi involvement and dividing of assets implies she's legally dead. It's weird. I'm holding off judgement. But going back to the villain thing, I guess for me it's more that a lot if the things we've seen so far imply the shady stuff at Wuthering Heights goes back way further than her, and whatever she's doing now, it was triggered by a conversation with her mystery visitor. Heathcliff and Cathy overidentify and blur boundaries with each other so much in the book, I kind of feel like when she was talking about how she's the only thing Heathcliff has, she means Heathcliff is the only thing she has. There's a lot going on to imply she was a deeply unhappy person even given the luxuries she had that Heathcliff lacks, and the Limbus version seems similar, with the conversation about birds. She's definitely supposed to be smart, and the Limbus version asking for a multi-purpose wrench at the age of 6 instead of a horse whip implies a strong interest in engineering, but it also kind of feels like someone very carefully presented her with information in such a way as to provoke a specific reaction from her, and we need to know who that was and how she found out about the mirror worlds. None of this prevents her from being a villain, of course, but I get the feeling Limbus is trying to make her a fairly complex character, and if she is alive at the end of this all, I could see a couple different ways it could go. I wouldn't call her Heathcliff's primary abuser at all from what we've seen so far, but there's always time for her to dig herself deeper in that emotional hole.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 23:24 |
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Goatse James Bond posted:I'm suspicious that he's lying, tbh There's at least a 35% chance.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 23:50 |
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PetraCore posted:Thinking about what we've seen of Catherine so far, and I'm not convinced she's the villain of the Canto even if she's definitely up to some weird and shady poo poo and may or may not be dead. I'm actually leaning towards not dead, because Nelly didn't see the body and we know Linton would lie about things to conspire with her. But the Oufi involvement and dividing of assets implies she's legally dead. It's weird. I'm holding off judgement.
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# ? Mar 30, 2024 00:00 |
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GilliamYaeger posted:I'll agree that at the very least she isn't the mastermind in this whole thing, merely complicit in it. If she survives, she'll almost certainly end up with either of the shady antagonist groups - either N Corp or Demian. I'd lean towards N Corp.
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Protagonists And The Weird, Unsettling Boys People Want Them To Kiss
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