|
The best selling game in a series is almost never that great, the best one is the one before that A game comes out, it sells okay, people that actually played it keep talking about how good it is, and the game that comes out next rides that buzz to sell a bunch of copies
|
![]() |
|
![]()
|
# ? May 10, 2024 00:58 |
|
flavor.flv posted:The best selling game in a series is almost never that great, the best one is the one before that battle network 4 lol
|
![]() |
|
Super Mario Bros. is the best selling Mario title (if we don't count spinoffs like Mario Kart 8 or Mario Party), so Mario Bros. is the best game in the series. Alternately, New Super Mario Bros. is the next best selling Mario title, so clearly Super Mario 64 DS is the apex of the post 2000 releases.
|
![]() |
|
Sonic Heroes is assuredly not the best 3d game lmao
|
![]() |
|
https://twitter.com/fowltown/status/1773480195606872267
|
![]() |
|
Legit thought it said “Fake” above Sonic for a minute
|
![]() |
|
man nurse posted:Legit thought it said “Fake” above Sonic for a minute I found you, you faker!!!
|
![]() |
|
Taker? I think you're the take around here. You're comparing yourself to me? Ha. You're not even good enough to be my take.
|
![]() |
|
Vinylshadow posted:Taker? I think you're the take around here. You're comparing yourself to me? Ha. You're not even good enough to be my take. "Jeff it's been 5 months and you've been saying this every time we roll the cameras, please just snap the loving clapperboard"
|
![]() |
|
It still hasn’t been confirmed yet who’s voicing Shadow in the movie has it (there were some rumors a while back saying it was Hayden Christensen)?
|
![]() |
|
Hayden Christensen would be absolutely perfect for Shadow
|
![]() |
|
Yeah, I’m hoping the rumor turns out to be true myself (also the man can actually act pretty well, he just needs decent direction)
|
![]() |
|
Oh I know this one; The direction is 'hold right.'
|
![]() |
|
Sonic X Shadow Generations. It's also the second, eighth, eleventh, sixteenth and twenty-ninth game at the same time too.
|
![]() |
|
acetcx posted:Or maybe I'm just being optimistic but I remember scratching my head at the emphasis that was placed on the HEDGEHOG ENGINE back in the '06 days and being like wait what is so special about this engine? 06 predated the Hedgehog Engine. Unleashed was the first to use it and it’s still a technical marvel. It had gorgeous baked lighting and could dynamically load several miles of level data instead of having big sections separated by loading screens like 06. It was a bit too much for the consoles at the time, but it really shines on the newer Xboxes. There aren’t many games from 2008 that look like they could have been released today. Maybe that Prince of Persia reboot? I hope they are working on a Heroes remake since it would give them experience making a full 3D Sonic game again. I like the boost games but nothing comes close to the complete freedom SA2 gives you. It controls well enough that it doesn’t have to box you in with invisible walls or force you into 2D whenever you’re expected to do any platforming.
|
![]() |
|
They’re already doing a Generations remake but we’ll see I guess. Curious when they’ll announce a new release that isn’t a mobile title though (maybe in another year or two at this rate)
|
![]() |
|
Maybe a Sonic Heroes remaster will finally make it a good game.
|
![]() |
|
I can see the argument for remaking Heroes being that no one would mind if the remake turned out to be poo poo because Heroes was already poo poo, but if they hosed up an Adventure/Adventure 2 remake there would be hell to pay.
|
![]() |
|
If I can't fall asleep any other way, this video will always do it.
|
![]() |
|
More like Sonic Her-NOES!!!!
|
![]() |
|
Sonic Zeroes on account of the review scores it would get!!
|
![]() |
|
They should release it episodically. First, team chaotix. Then stop.
|
![]() |
|
sonic heroes ftw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xddu4wUWUhE
|
![]() |
|
Heroes is good, yall are just mean
|
![]() |
|
Heroes gave us What I'm Made Of and people here have the nerve to say it's a bad game.
|
![]() |
|
Heroes has some major quirks to the controls and grinding in particular that absolutely shouldn't exist, but once you learn to get around those it's a fun old time.
|
![]() |
|
I know I played Heroes, hell I still have the GC disc although it doesn’t work anymore, but I will be god damned if I can remember one single thing about it. I don’t even remember if I actually beat it or not Talk about a forgettable game lmao
|
![]() |
|
I’d play Heroes again before I’d touch 06 or Secret Rings at least but that’s not saying much
|
![]() |
|
The Maroon Hawk posted:I will be god damned if I can remember one single thing about it. It's 30 minutes long so you can accurately relive the experience of falling into holes on the world's shittiest pinball tables over and over https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZ1ywi-_fjE
|
![]() |
|
Heroes was my first 3D Sonic game and I 100%ed that sucker.
|
![]() |
|
Heroes was the first 3D Sonic game that truly disappointed me. It’s not unplayable and there were others later that disappointed me much more, but Heroes has a special place for cratering the high expectations me and my friends had from SA1/2.
|
![]() |
|
Learning that Heroes was massively rushed due to Sega being in the process of imploding at the time due to the fallout of the Dreamcasts failure really does explain a bunch of how unpolished the game is, alongside with a large amount of the levels being designed by one person under such a heavy crunch induced load they lost 25 pounds.
|
![]() |
|
I have no faith in the idea that they might be able to fix Heroes when they couldn't even port Colours and the classic games without loving them up
|
![]() |
|
Also that they didn't have cross-platform development understanding set up, they built it on the GameCube first using a lot of very specific GameCube stuff and then discovered that it wasn't very easy to port them. (The PlayStation 2 especially they didn't have experience with and the PS2 could be a nightmare to code for, which is why that version of Heroes in particular was a complete disaster. At least the XBox was fairly straightforward and PC-like.)
MikeJF fucked around with this message at 14:55 on Mar 31, 2024 |
![]() |
|
PaletteSwappedNinja posted:I have no faith in the idea that they might be able to fix Heroes when they couldn't even port Colours and the classic games without loving them up it’s gonna be just like the Adventure ports and require a laundry list of mods in order to bring it up to par with the old Gamecube version Augus fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Mar 31, 2024 |
![]() |
|
Augus posted:it’s gonna be just like the Adventure ports and require a laundry list of mods in order to bring it up to par with the old Gamecube versions I mod my sonic adventure games to be up to par with the superior dreamcast versions. But thats just me
|
![]() |
|
Hitlersaurus Christ posted:Heroes was the first 3D Sonic game that truly disappointed me. It’s not unplayable and there were others later that disappointed me much more, but Heroes has a special place for cratering the high expectations me and my friends had from SA1/2. I felt the same way. I still finished it, but I didn’t buy another 3D Sonic game until Generations. Super Mario Sunshine and The Wind Waker were rushed too, but I didn’t notice at the time. With Heroes it was obvious. There are plenty of unfinished games I still enjoy because their gameplay is solid, despite noticeable chunks missing like MGSV. Heroes and 06 have tons of content but there’s very little polish and I can’t even enjoy the better parts because the controls feel so awful. I guess the hardest part of making a platformer is that you can’t change the controls or physics during development without having to rework every stage that’s been made up to that point. Who knows why they decided to change the physics so much from the Adventure games.
|
![]() |
|
The REAL Goobusters posted:I mod my sonic adventure games to be up to par with the superior dreamcast versions. But thats just me Obligatory link to Cybershell video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SORYL5J1Heg I played the original Dreamcast version when I was a kid, but most of what I played of SA1/2 was the GC versions. Playing through PC SA1 with the Dreamcast Conversion mod with a friend of mine, it made it totally clear that the Dreamcast models/lighting really is the best versions of the game. I'm ok with the 3D models of the GC version, but many animations and cutscenes just look and feel better with the Dreamcast models.
|
![]() |
|
ChaseSP posted:Learning that Heroes was massively rushed due to Sega being in the process of imploding at the time due to the fallout of the Dreamcasts failure really does explain a bunch of how unpolished the game is, alongside with a large amount of the levels being designed by one person under such a heavy crunch induced load they lost 25 pounds. Yeah the game sucks but it never had the chance to be good.
|
![]() |
|
![]()
|
# ? May 10, 2024 00:58 |
|
The REAL Goobusters posted:I mod my sonic adventure games to be up to par with the superior dreamcast versions. But thats just me i meant the gamecube version of Heroes there wasn't supposed to be an "s" there
|
![]() |