[P/I] Live Hamas

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BearsBearsBears: Aug 4, 2022

Genocide Joe is walking back the sanctions he imposed on those seven settlers.

https://twitter.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1773463600654414295
https://www.israelhayom.co.il/news/geopolitics/article/15507010

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# ? May 27, 2024 03:13

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
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lol, that disabled trans woman who runs a friends of the DPRK account on twitter is under tougher sanctions than people who are recognised by the US as committing a war crime.

# ? Mar 29, 2024 06:58

ded redd: Aug 1, 2010; by Fluffdaddy

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

lol, that disabled trans woman who runs a friends of the DPRK account on twitter is under tougher sanctions than people who are recognised by the US as committing a war crime.

SPEAKING OF SANCTIONS

lol

lmaoooooooooooo

# ? Mar 29, 2024 07:29

ded redd: Aug 1, 2010; by Fluffdaddy

Dickless yellow-bellied rats, the lot of them

# ? Mar 29, 2024 07:31

Spergin Morlock: Aug 8, 2009

PawParole posted:

https://twitter.com/silentsuccupunk/status/1773432099892031594

this lines up perfectly with disclosure

# ? Mar 29, 2024 07:45

BrotherJayne: Nov 28, 2019

OH MY BAD posted:

i didnt look at the thing they told me to look at so idk what you're talking about. im not going to do what you tell me if you're being mean to me. this is real basic human interaction poo poo DTI DTA

Hey bro, what if you, like, chilled out a little

Like, you're at 94%, take it to maybe 40, yeah?

# ? Mar 29, 2024 07:50

Maya Fey: Jan 22, 2017

lol that the only reason this is happening is because idf freaks cannot go 5 minutes without posting evidence of war crimes. french govt had to be shamed into doing this though so we'll see how seriously they follow through

# ? Mar 29, 2024 08:09

Blarghalt: May 19, 2010

PawParole posted:

https://twitter.com/silentsuccupunk/status/1773432099892031594

# ? Mar 29, 2024 08:40

BrotherJayne: Nov 28, 2019

Weka posted:

Like every Russian the nazis killed was the victim of a genocide.

I mean, no?

# ? Mar 29, 2024 08:52

fizziester: Dec 21, 2023

EDIT: DTA DTI

fizziester has issued a correction as of 09:16 on Mar 29, 2024

# ? Mar 29, 2024 09:06

Neurolimal: Nov 3, 2012

fizziester posted:

Source: Politico EU

https://www.politico.eu/article/russia-ukraine-war-trench-attack/

As Russia attacks, Ukraine scrambles to dig enough trenches
BY JAMIE DETTMER
MARCH 27, 2024 6:58 PM CET

KYIV — Ukrainian lawmakers fear the army and local authorities are not digging quickly enough or building sufficiently formidable defensive fortifications to withstand an expected Russian offensive in the northeast and southeast of the country.

“We were warning since last summer that you have to construct defensive fortifications on an industrial scale, bringing together the appropriate ministers and local military administrations to build defensive lines fast and make them extremely strong,” opposition lawmaker Rostyslav Pavlenko told POLITICO.

In the fall, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal acknowledged that old defensive structures would need to be renewed and fresh frontline fortifications added in the wake of Ukraine’s underwhelming summer counteroffensive, which yielded only marginal territorial gains after months of fighting.

Ukraine’s counteroffensive partly failed to live up to hopes because Russian forces were so well dug in, and the Ukrainian army was unable to punch through three lines of formidable and well-designed defenses.

Military analysts at Britain’s Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) cautioned before the counteroffensive of what might happen, warning in a May 2023 report that “engineering has proven to be one of the strongest branches of the Russian military. The defenses now constructed, consisting of complex obstacles and field fortifications, will pose a major tactical challenge to Ukrainian offensive operations.”

Now that it’s the Ukrainians facing the prospects of a concerted Russian offensive, the nagging question is whether their defensive lines will be as good as the Russians’ — and whether they’ve left too little time to build in earnest.

“They started building them finally. But this is late. They started really last month,” said Ivanna Klympush-Tsintsadze, an opposition lawmaker and former deputy prime minister in the administration of former President Petro Poroshenko...

... A former senior field commander told POLITICO he’s worried that Ukraine doesn’t have enough mines available for the new fortifications — nor enough mobilized soldiers to properly man them. He was granted a request for anonymity to be able to speak freely.

In November, Zelenskyy discussed with army chiefs the necessity of a significant expansion of fortifications, but it wasn’t until February that Shmyhal announced $524 million in funding for their construction, with other sources contributing an additional $280 million.

“Now the money is available,” said Pavlenko. “But now it is a matter putting the money into concrete.” On a recent tour — he declined to say where exactly for security reasons — he was disappointed with both the pace and the materials being used...

... What has added to parliamentary agitation is the recent appointment of a former presidential aide, Kyrylo Tymoshenko, as an adviser to Defense Minister Rustem Umerov. He resigned in January 2023 amid a flurry of corruption allegations.

“We’ve asked why a man who was dismissed in what was billed as an anti-corruption drive has resurfaced at the defense ministry at such a time,” said Pavlenko...

... “The Russians fortify whenever and wherever possible, regardless of whether they’re on the offensive, and that is sound war logic,” he added.

Inshallah

# ? Mar 29, 2024 09:14

RoboBoogie: Sep 18, 2008

BearsBearsBears posted:

Genocide Joe is walking back the sanctions he imposed on those seven settlers.

https://twitter.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1773463600654414295
https://www.israelhayom.co.il/news/geopolitics/article/15507010

what a bitch. lol

# ? Mar 29, 2024 09:50

Autisanal Cheese: Nov 29, 2010

More from Rabbani, after Steven Bonnell (stage name "Destiny") predictably doubled down

https://x.com/MouinRabbani/status/1773221712349347860?s=20

Mouin Rabbani posted:

THREAD: Steven Bonnell (stage name �Destiny�) responded to my previous thread with a series of his own tweets. True to form it contained more juvenile name-calling (�cowardly gently caress�, �disgusting human�, �sniveling worm�, etc.).

Regarding the issue of genocide, he appears to have appointed himself the resident expert on the phenomenon:
�How can you idiots claim to be scholars or have strong opinions about genocide WHILE STILL REFUSING TO UNDERSTAND THIS TERM [dolus specialis]. STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS, YOU ARE NOT QUALIFIED�.

In point of fact, regarding this particular term my previous thread referenced, in addition to my own understanding of it, the views of Bonnell, Norman Finkelstein, an international lawyer involved in cases before the International Court of Justice,
and of Francesca Albanese, the author of a recent report on genocide for the UN Human Rights Council. Whether or not Finkelstein and I understand this term and its role in determining genocide can therefore easily be assessed.

On the subject of understanding terms, Bonnell doubles down on insisting that Jim Crow in the United States did not constitute apartheid. In his words: �Jim Crow in the US wasn't apartheid because people could travel, among other things,
and the segregation wasn't done top down constitutionally and federally, but rather geographically throughout the US with a collection of local restrictions and policies. You're utterly clueless.�

In fact, and as noted in my previous thread, �Jim Crow was a formal system of rigidly enforced segregation in the United States imposed by state authority, enforced by legislation and violence, and confirmed by the US Supreme Court.�
Last time I checked, the US Supreme Court, whose infamous 1896 ruling in Plessy v Ferguson confirmed state laws enforcing segregation, was a federal institution.

But, assuming for the sake of argument that Bonnell�s points about travel and federal edicts are correct, are these in any way relevant? Here is how the International Criminal Court (ICC) defines apartheid, which it classifies as a crime against humanity:
�an institutionalized regime of systematic oppression and domination by one racial group over any other racial group or groups and committed with the intention of maintaining that regime�.

Seems the ICC didn�t get Bonnell�s memo about travel and federal regulations in time to incorporate them into the Rome Statute.
Bonnell also declines to address my other point in this regard, which specifically concerns Palestinian refugees.

If, in his view, Jim Crow did not constitute apartheid, why does he insist that Arab states exercising their universally-recognized sovereign right to not extend collective citizenship rights to refugees on their territory are guilty of a crime against humanity? END

# ? Mar 29, 2024 10:02

Malloc Voidstar: May 7, 2007; Fuck the cowboys. Unf. Fuck em hard.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveb...torah-scholars/

quote:

Shas chairman Aryeh Deri slams Thursday�s High Court decision to bar the government from funding the monthly stipends of at least some ultra-Orthodox yeshiva students, declaring it a �mark of Cain� and �an unprecedented maltreatment of Torah scholars in the Jewish state.�

�Precisely in the days when the people of Israel need the mercy of heaven in the south and in the north, the High Court of Justice takes an offensive approach toward the Torah scholars on whom the world stands,� he says in a statement.

�Shas will continue to fight for the right of yeshiva students to study the Torah and will examine its next steps,� he adds.

hopefully their next step is "collapse the government of israel"

# ? Mar 29, 2024 10:04

hadji murad: Apr 18, 2006

heard about this site on the Empire Files.

it�s a collection of genocidal quotes from high ranking Israelis.

seems like a good resource for people to have when they are trying to make their point to Israeli supporting psychopaths.

https://www.israelquotes.com/

# ? Mar 29, 2024 10:18

genericnick: Dec 26, 2012

hadji murad posted:

heard about this site on the Empire Files.

it�s a collection of genocidal quotes from high ranking Israelis.

seems like a good resource for people to have when they are trying to make their point to Israeli supporting psychopaths.

https://www.israelquotes.com/

There's also the original pdf South Africa sent
https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/192/192-20231228-app-01-00-en.pdf
more official than some unknown webpage, if that matters.

# ? Mar 29, 2024 10:30

Al-Saqr: Nov 11, 2007; One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Gideon Saar says that israel is losing the war

====

Sa�ar: If we don�t change direction, we�re on our way to losing the war

�If we don�t change direction, we are on our way to losing the war,� former war council minister Gada�un Sa�ar was quoted by Israel Today as saying.

https://www.aljazeera.net/news/live...31601;&%231610;

# ? Mar 29, 2024 10:40

WhiskeyWhiskers: Oct 14, 2013; "هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

I hope they listen and change direction northwards, it can only be good for Israel to attack Lebanon.

# ? Mar 29, 2024 11:22

Elias_Maluco: Aug 23, 2007; I need to sleep

BearsBearsBears posted:

Genocide Joe is walking back the sanctions he imposed on those seven settlers.

https://twitter.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1773463600654414295
https://www.israelhayom.co.il/news/geopolitics/article/15507010

Please americans don�t vote for this disgusting villain

# ? Mar 29, 2024 11:36

Kopmala: Mar 28, 2024

Willa Rogers posted:

Cool, zuck is siccing the feds on pro-palestinian posters.

https://twitter.com/narrative_hole/status/1773349674495168918

There's no way they're FBI. If someone wants to see your badge again, they're obliged. Also petty sure they have strict grooming standards and don't allow beards.

# ? Mar 29, 2024 11:51

exmarx: Feb 18, 2012; The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

https://twitter.com/TameeOliveFern/status/1773497954994921920

# ? Mar 29, 2024 12:17

Shageletic: Jul 25, 2007

Weka posted:

Yemen is in a famine that's killed 400,000+, all while under blockade
The war in Ukraine has possibly been more deadly, but if so almost entirely of soldiers, if that makes a difference. 100,000-200,000 very tentatively.
Iraq of course is like 2 million deaths so that is pretty hard too beat

Just grabbing a few more from here, I only got up to 2009 so there's 15 more years you could look at.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars:_2003%E2%80%93present

2003 war in Darfur - 300,000
2009 onwards phase of the Somali civil war - 66,000
2009 boko haram insurgency - 350,000

Now I know you asked for atrocities but I'm of the opinion that a dead person is dead whether they died defending their home with a rifle in their hand or if they were gassed and both are atrocious. Like every Russian the nazis killed was the victim of a genocide.

I think civilians killed in a war is more atrocious than a soldier personally but you're right about Iraq and Yemen, along with PawParole mentioning Ethiopia.

E: along with the other atrocities you mentioned. I guess this just might be the most widely visible then maybe.

# ? Mar 29, 2024 12:26

Shageletic: Jul 25, 2007

Autisanal Cheese posted:

More from Rabbani, after Steven Bonnell (stage name "Destiny") predictably doubled down

https://x.com/MouinRabbani/status/1773221712349347860?s=20

Black people were literally being pulled from trains while fleeing from southern cities wtf

E: also inability to travel to sundown cities and being unable to stay in the vast majority of hotels, etc in the south

# ? Mar 29, 2024 12:35

Communist Thoughts: Jan 7, 2008; Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!

Elias_Maluco posted:

Please americans don’t vote for this disgusting villain

Narrator: they did

# ? Mar 29, 2024 12:42

DJJIB-DJDCT: Feb 1, 2024

RadiRoot posted:

chatting with the fbi isnt so bad. they seem mostly bored if anything.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ9iDiVRgUY&pp=ygUPTmljayBtdWxsZW4gZmJp

# ? Mar 29, 2024 12:42

Dr. VooDoo: May 4, 2006

the succlibs and their media shitheads have no other tactic but doubling down and saying how anti-Zionism is anti-Semitic and how young people are all anti-Jewish and university campuses are just breeeing grounds of anti-Semitic extremism. Gotta attack one of your voting bases during an election year for the glory of Israel

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# ? Mar 29, 2024 13:01

Zodium: Jun 19, 2004

too much burger

# ? Mar 29, 2024 13:15

Marenghi: Oct 16, 2008; Don't trust the liberals,
they will betray you

The bad thread has closed. I guess it got to hard running cover for a genocide so they closed it entirely to shut down any discussion.

# ? Mar 29, 2024 13:27

Nucleic Acids: Apr 10, 2007

Marenghi posted:

The bad thread has closed. I guess it got to hard running cover for a genocide so they closed it entirely to shut down any discussion.

It is never coming back.

# ? Mar 29, 2024 13:29

ContinuityNewTimes: Dec 30, 2010; Я выдуман напрочь

It wasn't a safe space for zionist creeps anymore. Had to go.

# ? Mar 29, 2024 13:29

30.5 Days: Nov 19, 2006

is it going to be like the Ukraine thread where a bunch of weirdos start hurling themselves into this thread as their dopamine withdrawal takes hold

# ? Mar 29, 2024 13:31

stephenthinkpad: Jan 2, 2020

DTJB

# ? Mar 29, 2024 13:31

Zodium: Jun 19, 2004

30.5 Days posted:

is it going to be like the Ukraine thread where a bunch of weirdos start hurling themselves into this thread as their dopamine withdrawal takes hold

looking forward to it :blastu:

# ? Mar 29, 2024 13:32

Submarine Sandpaper: May 27, 2007

It couldn't be modded, as napkin math mod was actively posting in it

# ? Mar 29, 2024 13:34

Diogenes of Sinope: Jul 10, 2008

The Hitlers got too agitated, ruining the perfect calm.

# ? Mar 29, 2024 13:35

Owlbear Camus: Jan 3, 2013; Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?

white smoke a calm hitler has been chosen

# ? Mar 29, 2024 13:37

fizziester: Dec 21, 2023

Agitated Hitlers drive out Calm Hitlers, just like bad money drives out good money.

# ? Mar 29, 2024 13:40

hadji murad: Apr 18, 2006

welcome Kalit

# ? Mar 29, 2024 13:44

ughhhh: Oct 17, 2012

Lamo you can't discuss one of the biggest and horrific ongoing genocide going on in the debate and discussion forum.

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wynott dunn: Aug 9, 2006; What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?

fizziester posted:

Agitated Hitlers drive out Calm Hitlers, just like bad money drives out good money.

many such cases!

# ? Mar 29, 2024 13:45

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