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Morrow posted:Yeah, the only reason everyone else got off the bridge is because they were already in the process of driving across it. The bridge is more than a mile long, so the last cars that got on before it closed probably just got off it in the minute+ that they had. Most accounts that I've seen stated that the night maintenance crew were actually in their personal vehicles at the time because it was their lunch break.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Right, but in terms of the value of the rule, you have to count saved bridges against the additional cost in added tug job duration. It's not just the cost of this one collapse, it's thr saved costs of all the bridges that didn't collapse because we all paid for the extra tugging. Sure, calculated by the probability of each individual bridge collapse times the cost of that collapse (including the hit to economic activity and of course loss of life and limb).
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:the additional cost in added tug job duration
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Mustang posted:how many tug jobs are needed per bridge? This could be handy when discussing erection timelines. More importantly, we have an historic first in that a tug job will be the solution to keeping something erect. Vorenus fucked around with this message at 02:21 on Mar 30, 2024 |
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I wonder if there’s a way they could use concentrated jets of air to keep the boats in the deep bit
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Bucky Fullminster posted:I wonder if there’s a way they could use concentrated jets of air to keep the boats in the deep bit There's some prior examples of using air to move commercial ships, but in harbor a tug is generally more practical than a blow.
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Killer robot posted:There's some prior examples of using air to move commercial ships, but in harbor a tug is generally more practical than a blow. More cost-efficient as well.
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Killer robot posted:There's some prior examples of using air to move commercial ships, but in harbor a tug is generally more practical than a blow. As long as they have lots of oil
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USCE 2024: Tug and Blow Debate Central
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Angry_Ed posted:yeah that's only like 4 F-35s (I know that's not how budgets work but still) Man these pickup truck costs are out of control.
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golden bubble posted:https://twitter.com/samstein/status/1773682369284735076 Whitehouse reporters ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf1SjAv0UOw&t=20s
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fondue posted:Whitehouse reporters ... I've seen that happen at a club I used to manage, people just taking poo poo off the walls because...reasons?
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Shooting Blanks posted:I've seen that happen at a club I used to manage, people just taking poo poo off the walls because...reasons? I used to go to a bar, fittingly enough in DC, that had a “please don’t do coke in the bathroom” crochet sign. They later had a “please don’t steal our ‘please don’t do coke in the bathroom’ sign” sign.
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A pizza joint in Atlanta called Amaza opened with these cool branded beer glasses that were shaped like a can and frosted over with the PBR logo. They were cool as hell. Within the first week they’d all be stolen. When the staff realized what was happening they made sure to get one too. I lost mine in a move. Every now and then you’ll go to someone’s house and see one and be like “ahhh you got one too, huh?”
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I'm concerned that if these tug jobs last for more than four hours, we might need some medical staff on board.
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Lumpy posted:I'm concerned that if these tug jobs last for more than four hours, we might need some medical staff on board. Buddy, a few years back I was on a tug job in the bering sea for a whole month
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Professor Beetus posted:Buddy, a few years back I was on a tug job in the bering sea for a whole month Glad to see you were able to bear the strain with seamen.
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Would new regulations for tug use be instituted by a particular government agency at the federal level, or would it be a state or local thing? I really don't see Congress being able to agree on proper tugging procedures.
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Vorenus posted:Would new regulations for tug use be instituted by a particular government agency at the federal level, or would it be a state or local thing? I really don't see Congress being able to agree on proper tugging procedures. USCG could make it happen.
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Nervous posted:Glad to see you were able to bear the strain with seamen. A month long tug job crammed full of seamen? You must have really been on edge Xand_Man fucked around with this message at 21:19 on Mar 30, 2024 |
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cum (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Relax, gonna do it
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Hah! Now the left has this thread by the balls.
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Vorenus posted:Would new regulations for tug use be instituted by a particular government agency at the federal level, or would it be a state or local thing? I really don't see Congress being able to agree on proper tugging procedures. I would think this would fall under Dept of transportation.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6bOr5VWo5Y
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What if they tried a canal?
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Xiahou Dun posted:What if they tried a canal?
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https://twitter.com/ballmatthew/status/1774081179450249266?s=20 The NY times is rapidly becoming a wordle and mobile gaming company that runs a newspaper on the side
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Nice that they found a replacement for the old classified ads with a newspaper on the side business model.
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Bar Ran Dun posted:The consequential costs are also staggering. The RORO and container terminal being closed for a couple of months, pants making GBS threads expensive. Not have a bridge for several years pants making GBS threads expensive. Wreck clearing will be pants shittingly expensive. The ship will be off charter, it’ll have to goto ship yard, the general average claim will take years, expensive as all hell. Pretty much. Anything you think is expensive to do right in shipping and marine, is pants making GBS threads expensive to do wrong/in a hurry. It's one thing to see the numbers in the news and compare your household budgets to this. The marine world is much easier to think in terms of operation budgets. Servicing ships is mind blowingly expensive, the infrastructure and down time can easily bypass the cost of the boat, and that's normal and expected. A ship like that is moving what, 150 million in goods? A 5k tug job is a drop in the bucket. Shipping cost for 1 container is in 10k ranges. It's less than a fart in the wind.
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Xiahou Dun posted:What if they tried a canal? With canals you typically have to go really slowly, bit by bit, and wait for them to adjust before going further. It's possible but takes quite a lot of work.
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the spirit of derpies lives on in usce
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golden bubble posted:https://twitter.com/ballmatthew/status/1774081179450249266?s=20 I spend hours a week doing their crosswords. Somehow I bought a 1 month membership for it a couple years ago, canceled, and they haven't charged me since then but still give me access.
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The amount of right wing dipshits who don’t know what the goddam establishment clause is for is hilarious. By hilarious I mean infuriating.
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Dpulex posted:The amount of right wing dipshits who don’t know what the goddam establishment clause is for is hilarious. By hilarious I mean infuriating. It’s particularly bothersome that a number of them are on the Supreme Court.
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golden bubble posted:The NY times is rapidly becoming a wordle and mobile gaming company that runs a newspaper on the side I think it would be fun to run a newspaper.
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Boris Galerkin posted:I spend hours a week doing their crosswords. Somehow I bought a 1 month membership for it a couple years ago, canceled, and they haven't charged me since then but still give me access. https://twitter.com/ArmandDoma/status/1774268971266822372 https://twitter.com/JosephPolitano/status/1774275048053821878 https://twitter.com/JosephPolitano/status/1774275049765077146 And the more you think about it the more you realize it's true. Under capitalism, news and journalism exists to support the actual moneymaking part of the organization.
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News/journalism got it's start as explicit propoganda for rich people who could afford to own their own newspaper so "news and journalism exists to support the actual moneymaking part of the organization" is if anything an improvement
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reignonyourparade posted:News/journalism got it's start as explicit propoganda for rich people who could afford to own their own newspaper so "news and journalism exists to support the actual moneymaking part of the organization" is if anything an improvement Support your claim with any amount of research please. Maybe read the wikipedia page for "journalism" to start.
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