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Craptacular! posted:I guess my thing is, a week at Disney World is a lot more expensive than it used to be too, but it used to be 3-4 video cards expensive, and now it's like 1-2 video cards expensive, because while the overall price of both things is higher one has accelerated more the past seven years. They do sell multiple generations at once though, Nvidia went so far as to introduce a new model of 3050 recently: https://www.techspot.com/review/2816-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3050-6gb/ It's selling like gangbusters: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/97096/nvidias-nerfed-rtx-3050-6gb-gpu-is-selling-like-hotcakes-apparently-at-least-in-china/index.html quote:that apparently graphics card manufacturers over in the country are increasing the asking price of the RTX 3050 6GB, or that's the word on the grapevine, specifically from the Chinese Board Channel forums.
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PC gaming is as accessible as it gets when it comes to hobbies that require you to buy gear. Even in Cuba folks scrounge up parts and make it happen. Used parts from the USA make their way there. You don't need high end parts or even current generation ones. Someone with a Geforce 970 can have a great time with hundreds of good games to choose from. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyhQT01VwO4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID5XJDdUxTg
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My only other hobby is photography, recently medium format. I think gaming is cheaper. I do need a tremendous amount of vram to stack several 100 megapixel images which I lack. Waiting on the next gen to hopefully snag a 24 GB one cheap.
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Twerk from Home posted:They do sell multiple generations at once though, Nvidia went so far as to introduce a new model of 3050 recently: https://www.techspot.com/review/2816-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3050-6gb/ That’s not what he meant and you know it.
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I just finished AW2 and I'm not sure why but something about the last few chapters made my 4070 ti rev up to the loudest I've ever heard it and draw a sustained 260 watts despite not being overclocked. This has literally never happened before
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Last few chapters made my 3080 do similar stuff/struggle as the framerate dropped to what felt like the 30s a lot. I think the game is just really demanding
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shrike82 posted:how much does a PS5-equivalent PC build cost currently? Like $800 or so, I think?
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YerDa Zabam posted:Spent the last month RMAing my (two) rattling ProArt 4080 supers,which is rather disappointing. However, I channeled my frustration into selling all my old crap on ebay, and now I can afford a 4090. I also have an actual spare room, rather than a room-o-shite. Do you think you just got unlucky with production batches, or is the 4080 ProArt Super not as well made as it seems? I like the idea of the smaller cooler and the visual design, but if they're lower quality then I'll keep looking
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shrike82 posted:how much does a PS5-equivalent PC build cost currently? Google-fu led me here https://www.techtimes.com/articles/268621/20211128/ps5-equivalent-pc-build.htm It says $1,176.95 https://gamingbolt.com/how-much-would-it-cost-to-build-a-pc-like-ps5-in-2023 This link says $770 though
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Bjork Bjowlob posted:Do you think you just got unlucky with production batches, or is the 4080 ProArt Super not as well made as it seems? I like the idea of the smaller cooler and the visual design, but if they're lower quality then I'll keep looking Short version - They seem really great other than my bad luck. Give one a try from somewhere with easy returns. Long version - Hard to say if it was a bad batch, but seems likely. It went out and in of stock multiple times while they dealt with card one (AKA The Rattler) so I assumed that the replacement would be a new batch and fine. Sadly, card two (AKA Screaming Whiner) was similarly hosed. Both were middle fan, acoustic issues, so I'm guessing a bad batch. Just because they went OOS at the retailer, doesn't mean it's not from the same pallet/container at the distributor I guess, so bad batch looks like the reason. There isn't really any bad press/posts/etc about them having issues. Personally, other than the obvious fuckups I had I think they are really, really nice cards. Solidly built, nicely styled, and if I switched off the bad fan, quiet as gently caress. Even with just the side fans they were had very low temp. I can't remember the numbers, but they were performing incredibly well. I didn't want to run them forever with just 2 fans though, and it'd lower resale value, but I did actually consider it for a wee while. I considered trying a third one, but as I mentioned somewhere here I think, I'd saved a few hundred quid and decided to go "baws-deep" and get a 4090. If there was a ProArt 4090, I'd probably even try it tbh. And whatever 4090 I do get, I'll always be disappointed that it isn't my true first love the ProArt 4080 Super. -ninja edit- Haha, that's right, I just remembered, I was so enamored and disappointed by card two that I thought "  maybe I can fix it". I considered just taking off the shroud and re-seating the fans. Then considered doing an actual de-shroud (this one is popular with the SFF crew so fan adapters are readily available). Then I recognized signs of hypo-mania and calmed down a bit. Calming down now means a 4090, so take that as you will.YerDa Zabam fucked around with this message at 12:30 on Mar 30, 2024 |
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I have a Pro Art 4070 ti and haven’t had these issues and ASUS uses the same cooler for the 4080 and Super cards
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SlowBloke posted:Today's techmoan has two surprises who puts a pic of their dead cat in the thumbnail 
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Lol, it is a pretty hosed looking cat. The fact that he's considering it's scaredyness and wearing headphones is quite  -update- Well, after my run of bad luck with the 4080s I finally got some good luck. Gainward Phantom 4090. Quiet as gently caress even under load. No weird fan resonances or rattles. No coil whine. Going to see about reducing the power use a bit though or my electric bill give me a heart attack. YerDa Zabam fucked around with this message at 14:55 on Apr 3, 2024 |
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Any downside to picking up a ZOTAC branded GPU? Looking at the 4080 supers. They are running $200 cheaper then the Gigabytes, MSI's, etc.
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I have a Zotac 4070ti and it’s been perfectly fine.
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Weren't Zotac slightly louder? That may have been the 3000 series I don't remember. Otherwise it's kinda hard to screw up NVidia cards these days.
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diapermeat posted:Any downside to picking up a ZOTAC branded GPU? Looking at the 4080 supers. They are running $200 cheaper then the Gigabytes, MSI's, etc. tpu is great for a quick comparison between performances: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/zotac-geforce-rtx-4080-super-amp-extreme/39.html i can't for the life of me make sense of their naming, but that's for one of their models
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njsykora posted:I have a Zotac 4070ti and it’s been perfectly fine. I've had 2 in the past (1070 & 2070 Super), both were the small dual fan models but never had any issues. Solid little cards & great if you don't want a massive 3-fan behemoth.
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diapermeat posted:Any downside to picking up a ZOTAC branded GPU? Looking at the 4080 supers. They are running $200 cheaper then the Gigabytes, MSI's, etc. I just built (like 10 minutes ago) a new PC with a Zotac 4080 Super Trinity Black and it was whisper quiet running Furmark under full load. Stupid naming convention aside, it seems well built and pulls its weight well. Managed to fit it into a Lian Li A4-H2O with room to spare.
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BOOTY-ADE posted:I've had 2 in the past (1070 & 2070 Super), both were the small dual fan models but never had any issues. Solid little cards & great if you don't want a massive 3-fan behemoth. Yeah my Zotac 1070 Mini is still in daily use and works just fine. Completely anecdotal of course but it's not like anyone is going to have actual stats.
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I see the George Hotz saga is still going along where he crossposted his rambling open letter to amd from reddit onto linkedin where he got lightly roasted in the comments. My fav:  It's hilarious to me this guy thinks that AMD (or any company) should jump to it and provide him with support when he's trying to undercut their datacenter gpu business with repurposed consumer grade hardware. What a friggin dingus.
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Lockback posted:ML Engineers have worked at Mckinsey for decades. How much ML does it take to say that you should fire your employees and replace them with lower cost outsourced labor?
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better fsr3; dlss got a new, improved E profile with 3.7, and xess also got an upgrade with 1.3, good times. and that's on top of directsr https://twitter.com/HardwareUnboxed/status/1776023671347564547
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lol @ "Ultra Quality Plus"  XeSS was already slow, and it seems like this update made it slightly slower yet. So their solution? Just rename the presets so quality mode is now what balanced used to be, and so on. And now they get to advertise these sweet, sweet performance gains! Maybe they improved image quality enough so each mode actually looks the same in 1.3 as their respective higher-res modes in 1.2, but this is still really funny.
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My first reaction was to think it's an idiotic move, but thinking about it more - Intel isn't in position to compete with Nvidia yet. They need to compete with AMD, and it's feasible especially with improvements that XeSS could still produce better IQ at the same performance level as FSR with these new BS names. I I think muddying the waters where there is a fairly clear standard for what various sampling rates mean is not a good thing, but this might not be the worst strategic decision for Intel. Beating or tying with AMD with Battlemage, at least in some arguable sense, would be a big deal.
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I wasn't going to go for Ultra Quality but Ultra Quality Plus sounds like my speed, I don't know if I can afford Ultra Quality Plus Xtreme though.
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AEMINAL posted:Any good guides out there for undervolting? Never quite got it working in afterburner. I followed this one. It was shorter than a lot of the others that showed up (though it could be shorter still) I usually prefer written guides, but a video helped me more with this. -e- Actually, I maybe followed his other 4070Ti one, but the principle is the same on all 40 series. I guess he's just making more vids for more clicks. Had a chuckle at his name for some reason, "ImWateringPSUs" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD3OSYzIUkw Here's another one that explains a bit more https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPR06CxysMw YerDa Zabam fucked around with this message at 12:43 on Apr 5, 2024 |
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Hoooold up a second. Lisa Su and Jensen Huang are cousins?
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Neither one knew until a couple years ago but yep. This seems like fan fiction for an Nvidia/AMD merger but in 2024 I’ll believe it
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