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Fabricated posted:lol, farming level 1s is boring but absolutely does work for getting Super Credits and normal samples- which is what I'm critically short of. I have like 200 rares and 20ish Super Samples and no regulars. I farmed up enough to start finally buying a bunch of ship modules, bought one of the warbonds for no $, and I'm halfway to the second warbond. I'm shocked they haven't removed Supercredits from anything like below a level 7. I've had level 1 missions get me 50 Super Credits per run. wow sounds fun
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Legit Businessman posted:Everyone who posts this type of comment is doing a bit, right? I feel like saying "the community is bad" is unfair to a game that unexpectedly sold about 7.5 million more lifetime copies than its devs ever dreamed in its first release month, because it stands to reason there's twelve or thirteen Gamers™ in the audience at that point, but for the standards of this kinda co-op PvE level clear horde shooter it is... pretty rough. Which is still pretty excellent by the standards of online shooters, but isn't the weirdly harmonious ocean of DRG pubbies. Once you get to diff 7's people more or less know the score, but there's still that roulette wheel experience if you aren't at least pubbing it up with a known and vouched-for pal to set the tone on ingame VOIP. I have found 95% of all problems were completely resolved by hosting my own game if I really care that much, and hugging people as they spawn onto the ship as a turing test. Do you bring it in for the real deal on the SES Lady of the People? Good. You're in the squad. Have fun everybody.
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Fabricated posted:lol, farming level 1s is boring but absolutely does work for getting Super Credits and normal samples- which is what I'm critically short of. I have like 200 rares and 20ish Super Samples and no regulars. I farmed up enough to start finally buying a bunch of ship modules, bought one of the warbonds for no $, and I'm halfway to the second warbond. I'm shocked they haven't removed Supercredits from anything like below a level 7. I've had level 1 missions get me 50 Super Credits per run.
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I just ran round a corner and panicked when I saw a bot running at me and unloaded my liberator into its chest. Except it was my team mate and we both laughed it off and went on to finish the mission. Aside from random kicks (which may or may not be stability issues) I've had no trouble so far
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Willie Tomg posted:Once you get to diff 7's people more or less know the score, but there's still that roulette wheel experience if you aren't at least pubbing it up with a known and vouched-for pal to set the tone on ingame VOIP.
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I am enjoying the Creek players just memeing through the rest of the community's outrage over on Reddit. The game really needs more defence mission types.
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So how the gently caress does the campaign progression even work, because its extremely unclear in game and I don't think its really explained anywhere at all? I see that planet that got invaded is now under bot control, and one of the planets we were attacking earlier is now cut off but the liberation % remains. So can that be opened up again by recapturing the invaded planet, or possibly also Malevelon Creek? And at what point during any of this does Tibit open up, or is that just physically impossible now? And when the planet we were attacking earlier opens up again, does the liberation get reset or does that just remain frozen for now?
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I've played with randos as host and the worst I've seen is high level people dropping, dying, and leaving in a huff. Well, that or just going off to do things on their own. Haven't had to kick anyone or anything. I've got crossplay turned off so maybe it's worse on PS5.
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The 120mm personal order wasn't as bad as I expected since it has such a long cool down.
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Strong Sauce posted:wheres the farming post? Legit Businessman posted:"Legit" Strats from the "Legit" Businessman: BlackIronHeart fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Mar 30, 2024 |
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Au Revoir Shosanna posted:medals can be exchanged for goods and services Oh yeah I don’t care that much but just going on Reddit they’re getting all pissy as Reddit does and I’m just like…why lol. I liked the order where we had to get mechs. That was fun
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UPDATE: I've found a better way to preserve/return your farm seed, after playing with friends. I've updated the original post. Willie Tomg posted:I feel like saying "the community is bad" is unfair to a game that unexpectedly sold about 7.5 million more lifetime copies than its devs ever dreamed in its first release month, because it stands to reason there's twelve or thirteen Gamers™ in the audience at that point, but for the standards of this kinda co-op PvE level clear horde shooter it is... pretty rough. Which is still pretty excellent by the standards of online shooters, but isn't the weirdly harmonious ocean of DRG pubbies. Once you get to diff 7's people more or less know the score, but there's still that roulette wheel experience if you aren't at least pubbing it up with a known and vouched-for pal to set the tone on ingame VOIP. What I mean is that if you're posting on an SA thread about a game, you are post-scarcity for non-shitbird players (for the most part). It makes no sense. You've already spent 10bux to post here, how is doing the free thing (getting discord/clicking on a discord link) is a bridge too far? 
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I can't imagine getting mad about what the player base is or isn't doing on the map, given how open the devs are about being willing to put their thumb on the scale to get the outcomes they want. Just...do whatever, enjoy the ride?
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:So how the gently caress does the campaign progression even work, because its extremely unclear in game and I don't think its really explained anywhere at all? I see that planet that got invaded is now under bot control, and one of the planets we were attacking earlier is now cut off but the liberation % remains. So can that be opened up again by recapturing the invaded planet, or possibly also Malevelon Creek? And at what point during any of this does Tibit open up, or is that just physically impossible now? And when the planet we were attacking earlier opens up again, does the liberation get reset or does that just remain frozen for now? So the planets are all nodes and some are linked to each other. No i have no idea why those lanes arent shown. As far as I know, if Draupnir gets retake Ubanea will get reopened for invasion. I think it will keep some of the progress but liberation% seems to fall by time so it won't be like the planet is just frozen at 95%, but will eventually be harder. Once Ubanea is taken I think Tibit should open up. I also don't think Malevolon Creek connects to Ubanea so capturing it won't help the major order. What I don't know is if the bot invasions play by the same rules, ie, if Ubanea had been liberated would that have stopped the invasion of Draupnir?
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:So how the gently caress does the campaign progression even work, because its extremely unclear in game and I don't think its really explained anywhere at all? I see that planet that got invaded is now under bot control, and one of the planets we were attacking earlier is now cut off but the liberation % remains. So can that be opened up again by recapturing the invaded planet, or possibly also Malevelon Creek? And at what point during any of this does Tibit open up, or is that just physically impossible now? And when the planet we were attacking earlier opens up again, does the liberation get reset or does that just remain frozen for now? Tibit is only reachable through Ubanea. It's probably still physically possible to do the major order if most of the player base focuses on Draupnir, Ubanea, and Tibit. Ubanea liberation will slowly tick down at the current Automaton decay rate (-0.5%/hr) while it's cut off, so it really won't lose much before we can reach it again.
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Dpulex posted:I don't have any bros and about 25% of my public games are toxic as gently caress. Back to deep rock galactic. Join the goon discord in the op. Tons of us fighting for democracy at all hours of the day
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:So how the gently caress does the campaign progression even work, because its extremely unclear in game and I don't think its really explained anywhere at all? I see that planet that got invaded is now under bot control, and one of the planets we were attacking earlier is now cut off but the liberation % remains. So can that be opened up again by recapturing the invaded planet, or possibly also Malevelon Creek? And at what point during any of this does Tibit open up, or is that just physically impossible now? And when the planet we were attacking earlier opens up again, does the liberation get reset or does that just remain frozen for now? Each planet has invisible supply lines, if they get cut off the planet is no longer available to fight. The liberation percentage will decay slowly, based on the normal decay rate for that faction, which I think is 0.5% per hour for bots. So if the supply lines are opened up again, by liberating Draupnir, Ubanea will be open again and will retain most of its progress. Malevolon Creek does not have a supply connection to Ubanea and won't grant access to it if liberated. https://helldivers.io/ and turn on the supply lines layer on the map
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Triarii posted:I can't imagine getting mad about what the player base is or isn't doing on the map, given how open the devs are about being willing to put their thumb on the scale to get the outcomes they want. Just...do whatever, enjoy the ride? They've stated multiple times that aside from the initial hundred fold more players than they expected they let the dice fall where they will and move the pieces accordingly
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I will say A Cup of Liber-Tea is an amazing gym song.
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I don't believe that player actions impact those numbers at all and I don't think they need to to do what they want to do with their story.
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Saraiguma posted:They've stated multiple times that aside from the initial hundred fold more players than they expected they let the dice fall where they will and move the pieces accordingly i would be surprised if they said this because it's really not true at all. i hate to break the kayfabe or whatever but the devs can and have been tweaking things like the rate of liberation decay in order to ensure that certain planets are or are not lost and to ensure that certain orders are completed. there was dialogue from the democracy officer talking about the TCS campaign having already succeeded and causing bug mutations when it had only just started because those files were already in the game. the galaxy map campaign is basically smoke and mirrors and will be until the illuminate are introduced Reiley posted:I don't believe that player actions impact those numbers at all and I don't think they need to to do what they want to do with their story. they have been mostly real so far, i don't think the devs really care about this major order or the last bug one being completed for the sake of the story or whatever
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I hope Arrowhead catches you farming super credits and throws you all in prison somehow.
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turn off the TV posted:i would be surprised if they said this because it's really not true at all. i hate to break the kayfabe or whatever but the devs can and have been tweaking things like the rate of liberation decay in order to ensure that certain planets are or are not lost and to ensure that certain orders are completed. there was dialogue from the democracy officer talking about the TCS campaign having already succeeded and causing bug mutations when it had only just started because those files were already in the game. the galaxy map campaign is basically smoke and mirrors and will be until the illuminate are introduced My guess is that the current map screen is going to pull out a few sectors to show a bunch more sectors under bug and bot control aside from these few that are butting up against Super Earth Territory, and that's when we'll see the next faction show up in the sectors toward the bottom.
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explosivo posted:Okay now try this against bots on 7+ 2em mortar and 2 mortars will go a long way here if placed correctly. Obviously you’ll need impact grenades and some eagles or a laser to clear what remains
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The Kingfish posted:I hope Arrowhead catches you farming super credits and throws you all in prison somehow. also yea I'm torn because generally if a map sucks when I'm farming I'll just extract but when I find a good bunch of SC on it i feel like I oughta complete the mission to thank democracy for handing me the money, so the much-more-efficient way to farm SC seems like outright socialism
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I tried the Scythe out again today and it was... ok? Biggest issue seems to be you just need to keep the beam on for a second or two, but when you do it can drop even the biggest bots pretty quickly. Am I going to use it again? Probably not, the Sickle just feels better.
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I feel like Arrowhead is playing a smart long game, intentionally or not. People are gonna get the first few Premium Warbonds for free, and then as they play less they won't have the 1000 SCs for one that shows up but will go "oh well I've got so many for free, its fair I pay for one" and once they pay for one they'll be softened on paying subsequent ones. Not everyone, but enough people will be in that state it'll continue to do well. They've bought a lot of goodwill, and I believe non cynically.
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Mesadoram posted:I tried the Scythe out again today and it was... ok? Biggest issue seems to be you just need to keep the beam on for a second or two, but when you do it can drop even the biggest bots pretty quickly. The sickle has replaced the old breaker as the do everything gun
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Reiley posted:I don't believe that player actions impact those numbers at all and I don't think they need to to do what they want to do with their story. The back end guy/Joel is doing wargaming/cyoa, you draw up an alternative path for each choice you put before the players. If they succeed, your story goes this way, if they fail, it goes another way. The overarching narrative is likely already thought out in broad strokes but the players fill in a lot of the blanks, and determine how you get there, if they make enough choices they can change the course of history.
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I'd believe they would artificially accelerate or decelerate progress in order to meet content creation schedules but likely not gently caress with player choice on the direction to take.
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I want victory poses to be stand alone emotes. If I could do finger guns at people I would be so happy.
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Chronojam posted:I'd believe they would artificially accelerate or decelerate progress in order to meet content creation schedules but likely not gently caress with player choice on the direction to take. I mean, the obvious route is to change the rate of persistent degradation on liberation progress. I've also seen two dispatches saying that it was going to be harder to fight bots/bugs (one each) and I suppose that could be both in-mission difficulty bumps or represent a change to that passive flow.
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Chronojam posted:I'd believe they would artificially accelerate or decelerate progress in order to meet content creation schedules but likely not gently caress with player choice on the direction to take. They do this, see dispatches "spores detected on bug planets, automatons resistance increased' dispatches. These change the rates at which liberation is reduced. They don't do it hard enough to guarantee an outcome but more to adjust for how hard the playerbase is going, so the outcome is up in the air. I feel like the defense missions have been the catalyst for which major orders fail, they throw a huge wrench in the progress.
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Sokani posted:I want victory poses to be stand alone emotes. Same, I want to 'You're next' a squaddie after their 380s gib me.
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Chronojam posted:I'd believe they would artificially accelerate or decelerate progress in order to meet content creation schedules but likely not gently caress with player choice on the direction to take. the major orders don't really matter either way. if this current campaign fails the message is probably going to be "oh no, the robots have gunships because we couldn't take their factories" if the players lose or "we found out that the robot gunships were being made on another planet" if they win. the outcome is ultimately going to be the same and nothing will change because the devs aren't going to not add the new featuers and game modes that they're working on people have data mined all of the dialogue for the current story critical major orders and iirc a decent number of them don't even have failure options. turn off the TV fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Mar 30, 2024 |
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Legit Businessman posted:
That sounds like a legit business, man! Thank you for doing your part!
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Willie Tomg posted:I feel like saying "the community is bad" is unfair to a game that unexpectedly sold about 7.5 million more lifetime copies than its devs ever dreamed in its first release month... I'm so happy for Arrowhead over this, can't imagine how delightfully sobering it is to catch that lightning bolt in a bottle. I do hope they can maintain the amount of excitement for a while, at least. They have a plan of action and it's definitely working with their original core fans, and now with millions of new fans, I wonder how this might augment future content. I mean it seems like they're adding more and more though so hey finger-crossed
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