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Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

Broken Cog posted:



Gonna be a sad day when I have to switch this guy out

Favourite them and cycle em in n out occasionally. You get special dialogues for it and I'm sure their Arisen really appreciates it too. Also some pawns are just smarter than others, might as well get em back from time to time.

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Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here

Nuebot posted:

Oh god is that what those are? I only spotted that little thing outside my house last night and basically every NPC I've interacted with had left like, a fish or medicine for me with a note. :shepface: I thought they were just thanks for finishing their quests.

Yep. You usually get a bunch of affection for people from doing their quests, so they often end up sending you stuff afterwards.
Otherwise you've gotta give them gifts, though I think you only get credit for one gift per day per person, so spread them out a bit.

Basic Chunnel
Sep 21, 2010

Jesus! Jesus Christ! Say his name! Jesus! Jesus! Come down now!

Jack B Nimble posted:

What you're saying here jumps out at me because I've often taken a moment to reflect on whether or not I'm playing the game correctly, and I do this when I'm literally taking a moment; I play DD2 by spamming abilities and then when my stamina is low I just stand there and I don't use the basic attacks, I just stop moving for a couple seconds then do it again. I pointedly do NOT spend any time with the basic strikes because doing that greatly reduces your stamina regen and my intuition from playing the game is that it's better to just get the bar filled back up ASAP and launch another series of abilities.

In fact, I'd basically say I have three kinds of fights in DD2:


Oh lol I didn’t know that basic attacks and non-run moving affected regen rate. That’s… yeah. Combat seems good by sheer luck, given the weirdness of the design. Which is in keeping with the game’s janklord lineage! Long live Arcanum!

Kild
Apr 24, 2010

Broken Cog posted:

Any fun builds for mystic spearman because it feels like all I'm doing is spamming basic attack and bubble

I dont think so, sadly. You're just a bubble spammer who does normal attacks and can teleport sometimes. Wish their non bubble skills were good especially versus large enemies. The insta kill move says it's supposed to do something to large enemies that isnt insta kill but from what I could tell it wasn't doing anything noticeable?

Pwnstar
Dec 9, 2007

Who wants some waffles?

My first affection maxed person was the little orphan girl and I thought she'd gotten some horrible illness due to my actions when her face was all red.

Kild
Apr 24, 2010

Pwnstar posted:

My first affection maxed person was the little orphan girl and I thought she'd gotten some horrible illness due to my actions when her face was all red.

Ulrika showed up and Daphne showed up so Ulrika shot her with an arrow and it gave me an achievement

isk
Oct 3, 2007

You don't want me owing you

Kild posted:

I dont think so, sadly. You're just a bubble spammer who does normal attacks and can teleport sometimes. Wish their non bubble skills were good especially versus large enemies. The insta kill move says it's supposed to do something to large enemies that isnt insta kill but from what I could tell it wasn't doing anything noticeable?

FWIW I teleport pretty much all the time. The insta kill move doesn't 1HKO drakes and the like, but with the right gear it can knock off a whole life bar gem

isk
Oct 3, 2007

You don't want me owing you

Pwnstar posted:

My first affection maxed person was the little orphan girl and I thought she'd gotten some horrible illness due to my actions when her face was all red.

They were drawn in the style of Gabe from Penny Arcade, who seems to believe every person alive has rosacea

Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗

Shoehead posted:

Force throwing an explosive barrel and a goblin and a pig all at once at a chimera rules

That'll do pig, that'll do.

Kild posted:

I dont think so, sadly. You're just a bubble spammer who does normal attacks and can teleport sometimes. Wish their non bubble skills were good especially versus large enemies. The insta kill move says it's supposed to do something to large enemies that isnt insta kill but from what I could tell it wasn't doing anything noticeable?
Don't forget your 0 damage force push throws things off balance, so with regular sized enemies you always have a dude you can force toss.

Coolness Averted fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Mar 31, 2024

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


This beggar dude needs to stop telling tales and get on with his day.

Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here

~My beloved~

Alright, what would be some other funny ones? The wife of the captain dude you save, maybe? Maybe the crazy hermit outside Harve village.

Shyrka
Feb 10, 2005

Small Boss likes to spin!
Having never given anyone gifts (other than a peddler getting three flowers so he'd give me the apparently useless Hawker specialization) I got the blacksmith girl in Batthal as my beloved and you know what, fair, she's awesome.

Except for the fact she seems to follow me around town so when I go to the blacksmith I have to wait for her to catch up before she can do any smithing.

MeatwadIsGod
Sep 30, 2004

Foretold by Gyromancy
Has anyone done any of the random escort quests? I remember reading that Madeleine had one where she had like 7 pages' worth of unique dialog that went into her backstory and why she helps the Salvation cult but it's all hidden behind just talking with her as you walk during the escort quest. Wondering if there's stuff like that for every character who requests an escort assuming you don't just ferrystone or ox cart your way to the destination. I haven't bothered with them yet but it wouldn't surprise me if that's where some of the characterization is hiding lol

Wiltsghost
Mar 27, 2011


Mod that lets you blacklist certain lines pawns say. I like this because you can pick and choose. There's one thing my pawn says every time I start sprinting and it is so drat annoying.


Big Bidness
Aug 2, 2004

Jack B Nimble posted:

What you're saying here jumps out at me because I've often taken a moment to reflect on whether or not I'm playing the game correctly, and I do this when I'm literally taking a moment; I play DD2 by spamming abilities and then when my stamina is low I just stand there and I don't use the basic attacks, I just stop moving for a couple seconds then do it again. I pointedly do NOT spend any time with the basic strikes because doing that greatly reduces your stamina regen and my intuition from playing the game is that it's better to just get the bar filled back up ASAP and launch another series of abilities.

In fact, I'd basically say I have three kinds of fights in DD2:

Easy:(oh look, a pack of goblins) a dismissive spam of basic attacks because it's fun, feels good, and nothing else is needed. This works especially well as warrior because the wide horizonal swings of the fast attack will absolutely mulch anything that doesn't have a boss health bar. If I'm an archer or a fighter I might have to spam some straight foward ability, but I'll kill the whole pack before I run out of stamina and this requires absolutely no thought or planning.

Medium (most boss monsters): I'll burn through my stamina spamming abilities and then stand somewhere safe (moving as little as possible because this also slows stamina regen) before doing it again.

Hard (boss monsters that are beating my rear end): As medium except I'll pause and eat stamina roborants so what's actually happening in the game is an unending chain of abilities.

So basically, exactly like you say, I never waste time in basic attacks in any "serious" fight.

EDIT: Oh, also, as warrior my go-to spammed ability also produces "knock down", so I don't even have to do any thinking when I see the enemy stagger. I use knoll-breaker until they fall over, and then I use indomitable slash on their head when they're knocked down.

It turns out the most important augments are all stamina related. They're so much more important than strength and defense augs. The effects are stackable with stamina related equipment. Grab the Stamina Augments throughout all the vocations and find a couple of Stamina rings, its a major game changer and effects the playstyle of every class. You can stay extremely mobile and mix in basic attack combos while you wait for the right time to fire off your skills. The biggest pain is having to level up Mage to Rank 9, but the rest aren't too terrible.

Lakbay
Dec 14, 2006

My eye...MY EYE!!!
Oh interesting, I got the get poisoned quest but was going to ignore it because my main pawn is a support mage with high halidom but with the quest active she knew not to cast so I could actually show up to the quest giver poisoned.

Also is there any way to recolor armor? I have an end game thief body armor but it's this awful orange that looks like muppet skin

Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


Fun Shoe
I did that quest and after all that the quest giver called me a dullard because he failed to get poisoned by a chimera fast enough before it died. Fastest I ever threw someone into the brine

Pelican Dunderhead
Jun 16, 2010

Ah! Hello Ershin!
Pillbug
Awesome I chose to not use a wakestone in the postgame and now all my progress has been removed. This was after spending six hours in the postgame and being almost ready to clear it.

Shyrka
Feb 10, 2005

Small Boss likes to spin!
I really enjoy how many quests can be solved by judicious use of the grab command.

Endgame spoilers for Vernmouth. I picked Disa up and carried her over my shoulder to Sven's room so they could settle their differences, then I tackled Allard to the ground so he gave up the ox-carts he'd bought.

LibbyM
Dec 7, 2011

Finished the game, I know I missed a lot of stuff. I go back and forth on this game a lot, but in the end I think its a game with a huge amount of wasted potential. It could have been great and just wasn't. The combat is fun, climbing all over poo poo is fun. It feels really satisfying to knock a big enemy off balance and then pull it to the ground, or to jump on an enemy and pin it down, all this kind of stuff.

The main story is absolutely nothing and I was shocked at how fast the game ended when I decided "I'm going to take a break from side quests and do a story quest again" only to realize I was suddenly hurtling towards the end of the game, so I thought gently caress it and just did it.

The real meat of the game is in the side content, but huge swathes of the side content are easy to overlook and miss. Quests that you only get by walking up to and sometimes actively engaging conversation with random townsfolk npc's who look exactly like all the others and give no sign that they have anything interesting for you. Exciting locations and quests that you only find if you go out of your way to explore in the wilderness with no direction, but insanely high enemy density with very repetitive fights against the same poo poo that discourage you from spending time discovering what's out there.


I think this game was really could have been something special, but just falls so short.

LibbyM fucked around with this message at 02:23 on Mar 31, 2024

Blockhouse
Sep 7, 2014

You Win!
I don't know how anyone who played the first Dragon's Dogma had any expectations for the story in this one. Like, it's there, but it's clearly not the focus.

toasterwarrior
Nov 11, 2011
drat, there's already enough mods out that I'm really considering a restart.

https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/281?tab=posts
https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/300?tab=description
https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/195
https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/185?tab=videos

These four in particular I'm keeping an eye on...

LibbyM
Dec 7, 2011

Blockhouse posted:

I don't know how anyone who played the first Dragon's Dogma had any expectations for the story in this one. Like, it's there, but it's clearly not the focus.

To be clear when I say the story is nothing in my post above, I don't just mean the actual narrative but also the amount of any meaningful gameplay content that comes out of the story quests.

Owl Inspector
Sep 14, 2011

I can't understand why anyone would expect a sequel to improve on the original either

RoboCicero
Oct 22, 2009

"I'm sick and tired of reading these posts!"

Pwnstar posted:

My first affection maxed person was the little orphan girl and I thought she'd gotten some horrible illness due to my actions when her face was all red.

oh noooo is THAT what it is? i got the rear end in a top hat magister guy who wants tomes. time to avoid talking to him for the rest of the game and hope he gets the hint.

Neeksy
Mar 29, 2007

Hej min vän, hur står det till?
I gave the girl all the drat tomes, and have gone days, weeks of time since, and she's still just studying away and not progressing the quest.

Wasted some time with mystic spear, absolutely garbage output compared to my Archer and even Mage runs.

Neeksy fucked around with this message at 02:53 on Mar 31, 2024

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money

MeatwadIsGod posted:

Has anyone done any of the random escort quests? I remember reading that Madeleine had one where she had like 7 pages' worth of unique dialog that went into her backstory and why she helps the Salvation cult but it's all hidden behind just talking with her as you walk during the escort quest. Wondering if there's stuff like that for every character who requests an escort assuming you don't just ferrystone or ox cart your way to the destination. I haven't bothered with them yet but it wouldn't surprise me if that's where some of the characterization is hiding lol

Those have dialogue? The book guy asked me to escort him to the city and I looked at how long that trip was and just ferrystoned that poo poo and he was like "Oh, thank you" and disappeared.

Neeksy posted:

I gave the girl all the drat tomes, and have gone days, weeks of time since, and she's still just studying away and not progressing the quest.

Wasted some time with mystic spear, absolutely garbage output compared to my Archer and even Mage runs.

Check the morgue, her grandma might have been eaten by wolves.

Saraiguma
Oct 2, 2014
grandma hikes up cyclops mountain every day to solo the cyclops

Everdraed
Sep 7, 2003

spankety, spankety, spankety
outta curiosity are there any specifics to how the beloved choice plays out?

I was assuming 'last interaction' with a max'd affinity'd NPC (which I think was how DD1 worked?), but I talked to my #1 choice last (who was also the last person I gifted an item to) and it didn't choose 'em. I did talk to them + gift, talk to who I DID get, then talked with the first again? so maybe technically the first time you talk in a day gives some affinity points and that shift of other NPC's points being last set da love and I accidentally whiffed it?

liked 'em both so not a big deal, but if anybody does care about that maybe make sure ya talk / gift ya fave NPC on a fresh day and do no other interactions going into final main quests? though the overall significance seems very minor compared to 1 sadly

Owl Inspector
Sep 14, 2011

RoboCicero posted:

oh noooo is THAT what it is? i got the rear end in a top hat magister guy who wants tomes. time to avoid talking to him for the rest of the game and hope he gets the hint.

I have no idea how things work in DD2 but you could lower characters' affection in 1 by drawing your weapon near them and scaring them.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Everdraed posted:

outta curiosity are there any specifics to how the beloved choice plays out?

I was assuming 'last interaction' with a max'd affinity'd NPC (which I think was how DD1 worked?), but I talked to my #1 choice last (who was also the last person I gifted an item to) and it didn't choose 'em. I did talk to them + gift, talk to who I DID get, then talked with the first again? so maybe technically the first time you talk in a day gives some affinity points and that shift of other NPC's points being last set da love and I accidentally whiffed it?

liked 'em both so not a big deal, but if anybody does care about that maybe make sure ya talk / gift ya fave NPC on a fresh day and do no other interactions going into final main quests? though the overall significance seems very minor compared to 1 sadly


Right before the end I gifted Eternal Bond to my intended choice, the violin girl from the inn in Vernworth, and she did indeed end up being my Beloved. Seems like that might be your safest bet.

RoboCicero
Oct 22, 2009

"I'm sick and tired of reading these posts!"

Owl Inspector posted:

I have no idea how things work in DD2 but you could lower characters' affection in 1 by drawing your weapon near them and scaring them.

lmao, sweet, time to scare him off with a broom like a cat

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

Everything changes, Pit.
Even gods.

Everdraed posted:

outta curiosity are there any specifics to how the beloved choice plays out?

I was assuming 'last interaction' with a max'd affinity'd NPC (which I think was how DD1 worked?), but I talked to my #1 choice last (who was also the last person I gifted an item to) and it didn't choose 'em. I did talk to them + gift, talk to who I DID get, then talked with the first again? so maybe technically the first time you talk in a day gives some affinity points and that shift of other NPC's points being last set da love and I accidentally whiffed it?

liked 'em both so not a big deal, but if anybody does care about that maybe make sure ya talk / gift ya fave NPC on a fresh day and do no other interactions going into final main quests? though the overall significance seems very minor compared to 1 sadly


I believe affinity points are only given once a day for interactions and once a day for gifts, so it's possible that if you had two maxed out, talked to Person 1, then talked to Person 2, then talked to Person 1 again, it would consider Person 2 the "most recent" NPC to gain affinity and choose them? But I haven't like... datamined the game or anything so I'm not 100% on this.

Honestly was kind of disappointed by how little the game really does with your beloved. Though I did also end up with a different beloved in the first scene (dragon deal) than the beloved who showed up in the second scene (true ending credits) which was funny to me.

Everdraed
Sep 7, 2003

spankety, spankety, spankety
yeah keeping an eye on the modding situation (and noting ^ holy hell they have a lockon mod already??) I get the feeling it might end up pretty crazy. DD2 feels like an excellent foundation to tweak and expand upon, really interested in the possible modding extent but there's already surprising stuff. encounter randomization and multi-boss spawning (turning the overworld into more of an unmoored vibe) would really shake things up for replay or NG+


waiting to play until a buncha mods are tuned, and possibly an expansion lands, might lead to the best first experience possible

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



NG+ mechanical spoilers: I beelined for the Dragonforged just so I could make my archer pawn even better, but the options were a bit underwhelming. Improve Vocation has no immediate effect, but is supposed to give you higher stat increases upon leveling up while a specific Vocation. Not too useful for me since I probably won't be leveling much in the near future. Improve Skill halves the stamina cost of a specific skill you can select. And with that I think she's about as good as I can make her for her level:



Feel free to take her out for a spin if you're on my friends list, I'm curious to see if it leads to her using Erupting Shot more often.

toasterwarrior
Nov 11, 2011
If I restart my game entirely, I assume my pawn shall be condemned to the void?

GruntyThrst
Oct 9, 2007

*clang*

So I was fighting a wyrm, had 3 health bars down, and it backed into the river and sank into the brine. Immediately afterwards a griffon lands in the river next to me, and sinks into the brine.

Rivers: hosed up

toasterwarrior
Nov 11, 2011
The greatest power in the game is the almighty Brine

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

toasterwarrior posted:

If I restart my game entirely, I assume my pawn shall be condemned to the void?

My buddy just told me that he can still hire my first pawn from my abandoned save

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toasterwarrior
Nov 11, 2011

Professor Beetus posted:

My buddy just told me that he can still hire my first pawn from my abandoned save

Oh poo poo, what if I start a new save and hire my old pawn, is that possible...

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