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What about posting the bond for him and just... not collecting from him when the appeal fails?
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zoux posted:This is a compelling etymology but it's probably also not true, as pre-Christ Talmudic scholars also did the "as impossible as [big animal] passing through the eye of the needle", often an elephant or camel. Do we know that those translations aren't tainted by the same Greek problem? Or is there Hebrew text that translates this way?
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Well the ones referencing elephants surely aren't. 
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zoux posted:Well the ones referencing elephants surely aren't. Fascinating!
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DarkHorse posted:What about posting the bond for him and just... not collecting from him when the appeal fails? Hey, it works for Thomas. Also gives Trump a break - that's 175 million less he has to pay as the penalty if the appeal fails.
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So now we've been denied a Thursday laugh riot, having been denied last Monday's laugh riot. But, my face says it can handle a few more direct hits of the rake: do we have any indication of the timeline of the appeal? Weeks? Months? One week after election day?
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DarkHorse posted:What about posting the bond for him and just... not collecting from him when the appeal fails? and I'm no expert on campaign finance laws, but even if it were a violation, it seems like the kind of thing that wouldn't result in any legal action until long after the fact, so... it would be the least of his problems if he loses the election, and it won't matter at all if he wins
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Is trump's new gag order the kind that is supposed to prohibit him from attacking the judge in the case or
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Staluigi posted:Is trump's new gag order the kind that is supposed to prohibit him from attacking the judge in the case or No, the judge is a public figure. It protects the judge’s family, though.
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this morning's trump post whining about the revised gag order, which prevents him from talking about the judge's daughter not mentioned in the post: the judge's daughter 
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DarkHorse posted:What about posting the bond for him and just... not collecting from him when the appeal fails? Gyrotica posted:Also gives Trump a break - that's 175 million less he has to pay as the penalty if the appeal fails. Even if Knight writes off the loss, New York gets some damages paid and another $175M that surely would have found its way to Trump’s campaign gets diverted to his legal problems. I’m having trouble getting worked up about the injustice of this one.
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Subjunctive posted:No, the judge is a public figure. It protects the judge’s family, though. Wait, so jury tampering is a crime but you can judge tamper all you want? That seems....wrong.
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mobby_6kl posted:Some background on that Nope. Trump's legal defenses are personal expenses, not campaign expenses. And since he'd have these expenses regardless of whether or not he was running in 2024, that means it's not considered a campaign contribution to pay for them. DarkHorse posted:What about posting the bond for him and just... not collecting from him when the appeal fails? Don't really see the point of going through the trouble of making it a loan in that case. I imagine that he does plan to collect, but on a generous timeline that'll make plenty of allowances for Trump's clear lack of liquid funding.
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Blotto_Otter posted:this morning's trump post whining about the revised gag order, which prevents him from talking about the judge's daughter
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The Islamic Shock posted:Who managed to convince this guy to shut the gently caress up for once Getting deplatformed from Twitter worked for a while
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Subjunctive posted:No, the judge is a public figure. It protects the judge’s family, though. Ok, the dance continues i guess
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Platonicsolid posted:Wait, so jury tampering is a crime but you can judge tamper all you want? That seems....wrong. It's the public figure thing. Judges are professionals who by choice have taken on a public-facing role with broad influence over society and naturally face public reaction. Including from people who they directly interact with. They also have broad ability to affect people in their courtroom, and no matter how much you expect impartiality getting on a judge's bad side is always a risky move regardless of your role in trial. Jury members are random laypersons ordered by law to participate in courtroom proceedings and do not have any of the benefits, experience, or importantly willingness to be made a target of public scrutiny that every judge must. They require different legal protections.
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Blotto_Otter posted:this morning's trump post whining about the revised gag order, which prevents him from talking about the judge's daughter Wow you can see the jagged edge around where they added "virtually" in there!
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CPColin posted:Wow you can see the jagged edge around where they added "virtually" in there! you mean the extra space before it?
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Vahakyla posted:It might be dry, but I love Voices of Morebath. F rom 1520 to 1574, through nearly all the drama of the English Reformation, Morebath’s only priest, Sir Christopher Trychay, kept the parish records and book. He wrote down everything as his small town experienced the reformation and as catholicism became english protestantism. This looks fascinating, and I want to thank you for bringing it to my attention.
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Blotto_Otter posted:this morning's trump post whining about the revised gag order, which prevents him from talking about the judge's daughter How come I can’t talk about them as I talk endlessly about them?
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Blotto_Otter posted:this morning's trump post whining about the revised gag order, which prevents him from talking about the judge's daughter 
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Too depressingly accurate.
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Blotto_Otter posted:this morning's trump post whining about the revised gag order, which prevents him from talking about the judge's daughter He also posted a six minute fox and friends clip where Kilmead and Turley spend about a minute attacking the judge's daughter. The clip for anyone interested. picks up with the relevant information at ~4:30. Doubt it will lead to anything since I don't think it violates the letter, even if it spits in the face of the spirit. Caros fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Apr 2, 2024 |
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Main Paineframe posted:Nope. Trump's legal defenses are personal expenses, not campaign expenses. And since he'd have these expenses regardless of whether or not he was running in 2024, that means it's not considered a campaign contribution to pay for them. quote:Mr Cohen's $130,000 payment to Ms Daniels just before the 2016 election could count as an illegal contribution to President Trump's campaign. quote:The regulatory agency tasked with enforcing campaign finance law announced the case closure Thursday. You're probably right that he would've had this expense regardless of the campaign, but isn't that the case with Stormy as well? Pretty sure he wouldn't want his mushroom dick story coming out either way.
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I believe that there's a surprisingly strong argument to make that it can be considered a campaign contribution because it effects the presidential race in a substantial way.
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Wouldn't it count as taxable income for him though, because instead of him paying for the lawyer he's getting someone else to pay. In essence he's getting additional income.
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It would be subject to gift tax if the loan is obviously noneconomical but like, I don't think this dude is just giving Trump 175 mil. It probably IS a loan, probably just on favorable terms in terms of interest and timeframe.
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gift tax is paid by the giver anyway, not Trump’s problem
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Subjunctive posted:you mean the extra space before it? Yes, as if somebody went "whoa whoa whoa" and made him add it
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fool of sound posted:It would be subject to gift tax if the loan is obviously noneconomical but like, I don't think this dude is just giving Trump 175 mil. It probably IS a loan, probably just on favorable terms in terms of interest and timeframe. On the other hand, if a debt is forgiven it is counted as taxable income.
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Sorry, perhaps I wasn't being clear. Wouldn't Trump taking campaign contributions or having the RNC pay for his lawyers in the matter of his personal criminal and civil cases be considered income?
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haveblue posted:Web browsers do not normally display several spaces in a row, if anything it looks photoshopped Twitter has preserved whitespace forever, no?
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Including thread, sometimes.
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Vahakyla posted:
Well that's a slam buy. Thank you.
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Subjunctive posted:Twitter has preserved whitespace forever, no? Twitter is very concerned about preserving white spaces
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wakka wakka posted:Twitter is very concerned about preserving white spaces 
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Staluigi posted:that's wild, sorry about the unexpected deep dive No worries, it was just an odd way to find out about something hosed up like that. Also, 100% agreed. The fundie movement in general is rife with child abuse, and the leadership especially so. The dad was from Pensacola FL and the local paper there reported the whole thing with a thinly veiled tone of "son of local rear end in a top hat was also an rear end in a top hat in both life and death" so it seems like there was...a lot of problems he caused. I can only imagine the kinds of dictatorial insanity he subjected his kid to.
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