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deep dish peat moss posted:Level 7 bot missions right now feel like level 9 bug missions did before any patches - it's just a nonstop slog of superheavy units that demand AT weapons. I've seen single dropships carrying 3 hulks, two dropships both carrying tanks, and at least 1 hulk or tank every pair of dropships. It's brutal and not very fun to play against. The new units are cool but I'm going to stick with bugs where literally every weapon is viable because this game is more fun when you can use any loadout you want. Tanks really aren't that threatening though. A single regular air strike has a pretty high chance of killing one and unlike all the other heavies they move too slow to avoid them. Flamethrower hulks now scare me a lot more than anything else.
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We just did a buncha Bot 7s on the desert world and didn't see any new enemies. In fact we kept remarking it was an easier time than our usual level 5 runs. Lotta variance in mission difficulty, it sounds like. But we also all had the Dune OST playing so maybe that was making us Powerful.
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Apr 3, 2024 05:18
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I swear jetpack melee bots are like my #1 cause of idiot deaths  https://i.imgur.com/B8zg6o7.mp4
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Apr 3, 2024 05:22
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Those new Jet fabricators are no joke. The last game I played had two spawn next to one another (a medium outpost?) where a hellbomb would have taken both out but we just got overwhelmed by jets. They're definitely a top priority the moment you spot one. I notice we get new walk-in intros when the game loads in. That's cute, adds a little variety.
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Sixto Lezcano posted:We just did a buncha Bot 7s on the desert world and didn't see any new enemies. In fact we kept remarking it was an easier time than our usual level 5 runs. Lotta variance in mission difficulty, it sounds like. we just did a bunch of bot 7s on the desert world and lmao jesus christ i have never seen so many robots and the double gunship tower variation is some real poo poo when you're also constantly being pushed by continuous triple drops of tanks/hulks/god knows how many devastators
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Apr 3, 2024 05:24
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explosivo posted:Feels like I'm taking crazy pills seeing people talking about an arc thrower nerf. I think it feels so much better now that it staggers and the range difference didn't seem that drastic to me. I was still able to hit plenty of targets at a range I didn't really expect it to. Honestly a huge fan of the change. The range nerf is not the issue at all, absolutely I barely noticed that. It's the rate of fire nerf, its really noticable. The gun is still good, but it lost like 30-40% of its dps thats pretty huge.
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it should be clearer to player about what you can shoot to destroy and what you can airstrike/orbital and then what needs terminal work and/or a hell bomb. from my vague reckoning shootable: broadcast tower spore tower (eventually) shrieker nests bot AA bot mortar bot tank turrets bombable: rogue lab (500kg) bot fabricators (airstrike or if you're lucky and the door is open the cluster bomb strike) terminal work/hell bomb: gunship factories detection towers strategem jammer correct me if i'm wrong obviously. also the gunship factory doesnt look destroyed enough once you hell bomb it
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Apr 3, 2024 05:36
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BadLlama posted:I mean in the sense that fire tornado just wrecks everything bugs, you etc Hmm, weaponized fire tornadoes, I can work with that.
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Apr 3, 2024 05:36
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Saraiguma posted:detection towers die to a 500 i've tried so many times how did i manage to fail every time 
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Apr 3, 2024 05:41
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Eagle strafing and rockets should engage flying units if they encounter them on their pass Re: hulks, which eagles will reliably kill them besides 500s? I tried rockets and it seemed hit or miss
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Apr 3, 2024 05:43
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Spookydonut posted:i've tried so many times how did i manage to fail every time a few of the layouts have really bad terrain and beacons will roll like 300 feet away
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Apr 3, 2024 05:43
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Sindai posted:That's not normal for 7 and definitely not a patch change. It seems to be just on Maia, I switched to tibit and it stopped happening
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Apr 3, 2024 05:45
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I've seen detection towers die to: 500kg 380 Barrage Walking Barrage Laser But all of them except laser are extremely hit or miss. Even if the 500kg beacon lands right at the base of the tower sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. 
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Level 7 boring now level 8 is the new sweet spot. Chaotic goodness
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The 500kg comes in at an angle from behind you, sometimes the best way to hit things is to stand with your back to the tower and throw a few feet forward - you can catch the bomb halfway up the building. This also works for cannon towers.
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How good are the cybernetic armours for increasing throwing range? Is 30% increase a notable change?
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Saraiguma posted:detection towers die to a 500 They’ll die to an orbital laser too.
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Arc Hammer posted:How good are the cybernetic armours for increasing throwing range? Is 30% increase a notable change? yes and you shouldn't use them because of that. it was super loving weird switching to another armor bonus
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Arc Hammer posted:How good are the cybernetic armours for increasing throwing range? Is 30% increase a notable change? Do not do it. You will never be able to go back. You will spend the rest of your dives with a backpack full of grenades and nothing else but orbital bombardments. Sure it'll be cool the first few times you annihilate an entire base from 90m, but ... I mean no that's still cool. Every other armor feels like poo poo after though.
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causticBeet posted:Eagle strafing and rockets should engage flying units if they encounter them on their pass This would make a SICK ship upgrade.
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causticBeet posted:Eagle strafing and rockets should engage flying units if they encounter them on their pass dont even bother trying to kill hulks with an eagle, same deal with chargers dont bother its too unreliable. if you can directly hit a hulk with 500kg or you get a bunch of solid damage on its back sure but 9 times out of 10 it will turn around just as the eagle is about to nail it and tank it on the front or side. Arc Hammer posted:How good are the cybernetic armours for increasing throwing range? Is 30% increase a notable change? I am forever ruined and cannot play without using the throw range bonus, dont do it.
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raverrn posted:The 500kg comes in at an angle from behind you, sometimes the best way to hit things is to stand with your back to the tower and throw a few feet forward - you can catch the bomb halfway up the building. This also works for cannon towers. It actually depends on where you are on the map. The closer to the edge, the more of an angle. Same applies to the Orbital Laser but it's less important there.
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I love this game. SAM sites do exactly what you'd expect to gunships. 
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Away all Goats posted:It actually depends on where you are on the map. The closer to the edge, the more of an angle. Same applies to the Orbital Laser but it's less important there. You're thinking of orbitals, eagles fly in based on your facing. Strafing run and 500kg both come in from behind you, the air strikes and cluster fly in perpendicular.
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Horace Kinch posted:Today I learned autocannon shots can ricochet off the flaps on foundries and land inside, blowing them up. Further evidence that the autocannon is supreme. I saw someone do that and couldn't believe it. Also only kills i've gotten with airburst is against teammates, seems useless against bots.
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Eediot Jedi posted:I love this game. SAM sites do exactly what you'd expect to gunships. yesterday i saw them to exactly jack poo poo to any and all dropships
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Hats Wouldnt Fly posted:You're thinking of orbitals, eagles fly in based on your facing. Strafing run and 500kg both come in from behind you, the air strikes and cluster fly in perpendicular. Yeah I read that post wrong. On an unrelated note, gunships are way more dangerous than Shriekers and harder to kill since the Dominator couldn't even penetrate their armor. Laser cannon was also much more efficient at downing them than the Quasar
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Back Hack posted:I've learned to hit stuff with the plasma Punisher from long range where I basically treat it like a mortar, and I don't know if it's true, but I swear the plasma bolt explosion gets bigger the more air time it has. I've noticed vfx like distant blood and explosions get scaled up for clarity. It's especially noticeable when you kill bugs from a distance. The scorcher has the same thing happen. I'm pretty certain it's only visual, but with the inherent jank this game seems to have it would not surprise me if the actual explosion radius was bigger
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just have one person bring a spear now it will unalive dropships easily.
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Hats Wouldnt Fly posted:Do not do it. You will never be able to go back. You will spend the rest of your dives with a backpack full of grenades and nothing else but orbital bombardments. Sure it'll be cool the first few times you annihilate an entire base from 90m, but ... I mean no that's still cool. Every other armor feels like poo poo after though. I feel like that goes for a lot of the armors. I'm hooked on medic (heavy) for mechs and engineer for bugs (moar grenades).
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Snuffman posted:I feel like that goes for a lot of the armors. I'm hooked on medic (heavy) for mechs and engineer for bugs (moar grenades). I've heard rumors of "medium" and "heavee" armor, but my democracy officer told me that was bug and/or bot propaganda. If you ain't fast, you don't last.
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Legit Businessman posted:I've heard rumors of "medium" and "heavee" armor, but my democracy officer told me that was bug and/or bot propaganda. I had surprising success using heavy armor instead of the shield on some Urbana missions tonight. I'm slow, but the improved survivability over recon armor is very noticeable. The stamina booster alo goes a long way toward making the heavy armor less cumbersome
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I was going throwing armour sometimes and explosion resist armour sometimes but now that rockets don't murder me all the time I'm gonna stick with throw range Also my favourite armour is throw range. The one that's like a basic helldiver armour but it has prosthetic limbs Sometimes i would forget i didn't have throw range on. Usually that results in an embarrassingly short precision strike on a fabricator, but could also have me murder my team with the orbital airburst
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My first car was a stick
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Hats Wouldnt Fly posted:Do not do it. You will never be able to go back. You will spend the rest of your dives with a backpack full of grenades and nothing else but orbital bombardments. Sure it'll be cool the first few times you annihilate an entire base from 90m, but ... I mean no that's still cool. Every other armor feels like poo poo after though. This is how I feel about the stealth armor. Been using it since a few days after launch and I have no idea how to function without it. Being able to sneak past things or disengage is way too baked into my playstyle to do without.
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Eediot Jedi posted:I love this game. SAM sites do exactly what you'd expect to gunships. They have difficulty tracking fast-moving dropships that JUST spawned and are rubber banding in from the map edge, but ohhhh boy do they clank motherfuckers otherwise.
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Ok this level 8 automaton blitz search and destroy with two stratagem jammers might've been the most intense mission I've ever played
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The new bot ships seem extremely unfun. Dropped on a small map with two facilities and we were literally just spawn camped by a never ending stream of gunships that hovered over the entire map and blew us up as soon as we landed. People complained about Bile Titans and Chargers before they reduced the spawns but this feels like Bile Titans that can fly and launch missile salvos and oh they can fan out over the map too. I've had plenty of things irritate me in the game but this is the first that crossed over into "why even bother" territory.
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:Ok this level 8 automaton blitz search and destroy with two stratagem jammers might've been the most intense mission I've ever played Unironically when people don't drop onto the evac site to determine if there are jammers on these missions, you can simply wipe trying to evac. I think this is low key a good way to ensure success on 7/8/9 blitz missions Hakarne posted:The new bot ships seem extremely unfun. Dropped on a small map with two facilities and we were literally just spawn camped by a never ending stream of gunships that hovered over the entire map and blew us up as soon as we landed. People complained about Bile Titans and Chargers before they reduced the spawns but this feels like Bile Titans that can fly and launch missile salvos and oh they can fan out over the map too.  Spookydonut posted:just have one person bring a spear now it will unalive dropships easily. Risky Bisquick fucked around with this message at 07:24 on Apr 3, 2024 |
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