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Nail Rat posted:People also feel it's acceptable to be tired and drive and studies repeatedly show that can be worse than being drunk and driving. Sometimes you're tired through no fault of your own and have to get somewhere. But man, the data is horrifying.
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There was a news station in Colorado I think that did a driving test on a group of people, each time they went on the track they were more and more stoned. The one thing that stuck out was the people recognized they were too high to drive around the point when their performance was affected. The drunk drivers don't seem to be as self aware.
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From what I understand, being very tired is functionally the same as being drunk in terms of motor skills and decision-making.
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Apr 3, 2024 03:04
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IIRC there was a study in the 90s that found mildly stoned people were actually safer drivers: they sped less and were more careful.. Of course there's the old joke that a drunk driver will blow through a stop sign; a stoned driver will wait for it to turn green.
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Blue Footed Booby posted:Sometimes you're tired through no fault of your own and have to get somewhere. But man, the data is horrifying. There are always alternative methods of travel if you're not able to drive safely
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Apr 3, 2024 04:42
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For the crime of tired driving, 30 years in the isocube.
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https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/status/1775342247740874907quote:Edward Ahmed Mitchell, the deputy director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), also said the event was nixed because so many people chose not to attend, including invitees who had initially agreed to go. quote:A key issue with such talks, activists say, is that the administration has been handpicking whom to meet with. If I were them, I'd decline to go as well. No point in meeting the man when he's adamant about supporting a genocidal apartheid state as they genocide Palestinians before our eyes.
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Apr 3, 2024 05:07
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Fart Amplifier posted:There are always alternative methods of travel if you're not able to drive safely So what I'm hearing is that you've never stopped to rest in the middle of a multi day journey at a roadside hotel in the middle of goddamn nowhere and been unable to sleep. Or had to work in a town with no mass transit. poo poo happens. It's not like getting drunk and going out for a jaunt.
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Fart Amplifier posted:There are always alternative methods of travel if you're not able to drive safely The United States, the place famous for its ease of access to non-car modes of transportation.
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On the previous discussion, the comparison between weed and immigration is also not a good one because the statutes are different. The immigration statute in question, bolding is mine: 8 USC s 1182(f) posted:
Changing scheduling of a drug is under 21 USC s 811. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/21/811 I don't want to quote it due to length, but as you can see the process to change a schedule requires the President to tell the AG to do so, then the AG "may by rule..." which means it has to follow the standard administrative rulemaking process, which is lengthy. And before doing that, the AG has to do extra bullshit getting scientific and medical studies. And there may also be treaty obligations that affect what the executive can do as well. All of this is a much lengthier process than being able to ban immigrants via proclamation, which if Joe Biden had decided to do, the administrative state would enforce until being told otherwise. Things "snapped into place" for Republicans not when Trump issued his EOs, but when Congress passed those laws in the 1960s.
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koolkal posted:For the crime of tired driving, 30 years in the isocube. Former coworker of mine had to do several years after tired driving to get to a job and causing an accident that ended up killing another driver. Don't tired drive please.
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Blue Footed Booby posted:So what I'm hearing is that you've never stopped to rest in the middle of a multi day journey at a roadside hotel in the middle of goddamn nowhere and been unable to sleep. Or had to work in a town with no mass transit. poo poo happens. It's not like getting drunk and going out for a jaunt. You hallucinated a bunch of stuff if that's what you've heard. And yeah for everyone else on the road it's almost exactly like you're getting drunk and driving.
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Blue Footed Booby posted:So what I'm hearing is that you've never stopped to rest in the middle of a multi day journey at a roadside hotel in the middle of goddamn nowhere and been unable to sleep. Or had to work in a town with no mass transit. poo poo happens. It's not like getting drunk and going out for a jaunt. If you get behind the wheel you are knowingly endangering other people's lives. poo poo doesn't "just happen".
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Blue Footed Booby posted:So what I'm hearing is that you've never stopped to rest in the middle of a multi day journey at a roadside hotel in the middle of goddamn nowhere and been unable to sleep. Or had to work in a town with no mass transit. poo poo happens. It's not like getting drunk and going out for a jaunt. There's always Uber.
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It's really easy to say you shouldn't drive tired but I have an hour and fifteen minute commute one-way for a career I've invested 23 years in. I live where I can afford to live and there is zero public transit in my area. Am I supposed to quit? Like yeah, I know I'd be at fault if I fell asleep but there are zero other options for me other than a radical life change. It was the same for my dad when he worked in the area and it's currently the same for my mom.
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Dirt5o8 posted:It's really easy to say you shouldn't drive tired but I have an hour and fifteen minute commute one-way for a career I've invested 23 years in. I live where I can afford to live and there is zero public transit in my area. Am I supposed to quit? Like yeah, I know I'd be at fault if I fell asleep but there are zero other options for me other than a radical life change. 
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mobby_6kl posted:If you get behind the wheel you are knowingly endangering other people's lives. poo poo doesn't "just happen". This is true no matter how tired you are. You're just endangering it more when tired.
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Dirt5o8 posted:It's really easy to say you shouldn't drive tired but I have an hour and fifteen minute commute one-way for a career I've invested 23 years in. I live where I can afford to live and there is zero public transit in my area. Am I supposed to quit? Like yeah, I know I'd be at fault if I fell asleep but there are zero other options for me other than a radical life change. Have you heard of the sunk cost fallacy?
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Boris Galerkin posted:There's always Uber. No, there most definitely is not always Uber or taxi service available.
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Goatse James Bond posted:My understanding is that the weed rescheduling process is going at pretty much the normal speed of the administrative state. Maybe a bit slower because the DEA is cranky about literally everyone else in the government telling them to reschedule weed, but they're still on the high end of the regular pre-public-comment window. Apologies if this is off topic but are you working for the Biden campaign this year?
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shoeberto posted:No, there most definitely is not always Uber or taxi service available. I live 20 minutes from the airport and can't get a ride home because my area looks too rural on the map, just cancellation after cancellation when I tried that. There are plenty of places in the US where the only practical option is driving and you don't even need to live in the great plains or Alaska to experience it.
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Proof we need to invest in public transit and let more people work remote: "yes I'm knowingly doing something as dangerous as drunk driving but I have no choice."
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Looks like abortion will be on the ballot in Arizona come November: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4570793-backers-arizona-abortion-amendment-say-have-signatures-for-ballot/
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Remember months ago when I said I really hope the dems put some really popular things like abortion and weed up for a vote to increase turn out? I was talking about this.
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Xiahou Dun posted:Remember months ago when I said I really hope the dems put some really popular things like abortion and weed up for a vote to increase turn out? Reminder how staunchly red Ohio had a 57% vote in favor of abortion rights, even after the republicans did everything they could to block or stymie the issue
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DarkHorse posted:Reminder how staunchly red Ohio had a 57% vote in favor of abortion rights, even after the republicans did everything they could to block or stymie the issue Everything they could, up to and including "hey guys why don't we make it require 60% to pass ballot propositions? No reason, we just think it would be neat"
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Xiahou Dun posted:Remember months ago when I said I really hope the dems put some really popular things like abortion and weed up for a vote to increase turn out? In Florida at least, these ballot initiatives have nothing to do with the democratic party. The only credit the party should get is for being so totally useless that ballot referendums are the only way anything positive can happen.
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Nail Rat posted:Proof we need to invest in public transit and let more people work remote: "yes I'm knowingly doing something as dangerous as drunk driving but I have no choice." I mean, yes. It's like saying "I know there's lead in my water pipes but I can't afford to move" or "I know my car is unsafe and has issues with the brakes but I can't afford to fix them and have to get my kids to school." People do terribly dangerous things all the time because of circumstance and it can both be bad and also not their fault. Saying "don't drive tired" is objectively true and still doesn't actually fix the situation when someone's options are "drive now or lose your job / leave your kids somewhere unsafe / fail to make your court appointment"
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haveblue posted:Everything they could, up to and including "hey guys why don't we make it require 60% to pass ballot propositions? No reason, we just think it would be neat" "What's that? We have to do an emergency special election, when just last year we went on record saying special elections were wasteful and costly? And we scheduled it at a weird time just a few months before this other election just in case all our court battling to block the referendum failed? And we deliberately copied the design of the signs from the first initiative to hopefully confuse people on the second? Huh, what a crazy random happenstance!"
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tired driving may kill a lot of people, but it also helps a lot of people get to work on time, so, it;s impossible to say if its bad or no
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:tired driving may kill a lot of people, but it also helps a lot of people get to work on time, so, it;s impossible to say if its bad or no I mean I get the joke but it's true: the obvious difference between drunk driving and tired driving is that most people would never choose to drive tired, they're going somewhere because they feel like they have to. I think like most things in our hellscape we should just take it for granted if somebody tells us they're too tired to get to work but I also think our awful work culture has made honest self-evaluations completely impossible for the average worker. I think most people would agree that a trucker shouldn't get behind the wheel if they just drove through the night and there are lives are on the line, but I also think that most people have some experience with driving to work after getting four or five hours of sleep. You'd be hard pressed to find any social will to say people in the latter case should skip work, and I think you get your blurry edge cases from there there.
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Mendrian posted:I mean I get the joke but it's true: the obvious difference between drunk driving and tired driving is that most people would never choose to drive tired, they're going somewhere because they feel like they have to. It's a dril quote.
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reposting from GBS but Moms for liberty types got wrecked hard again last night.Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Wow MAGA/Moms4Liberty got smashed last night in school boards Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:https://twitter.com/benwikler/status/1775373407921520874?s=20
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zoux posted:Have those clowns actually won/retained any school board seats anywhere? Original clown is still on her Sarasota county school board seat I think even after the scandal.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:reposting from GBS but Moms for liberty types got wrecked hard again last night. always fun to see moms get wrecked hard
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zoux posted:Have those clowns actually won/retained any school board seats anywhere? Some places yeah, but mostly in Uber red places. The issue is a lot of places are fine with social conservative ghoul poo poo if you keep it vague or talk about sports or whatever, but the mask came off hard and no one liked what they saw. Meanwhile the gop braintrust thinks twitter is irl so you have the Charlie kirks screaming about getting rid of all birth control and book bans. https://twitter.com/CalltoActivism/status/1775261797781844080 https://twitter.com/patriottakes/status/1775226973981151616 Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 16:57 on Apr 3, 2024 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:Elon has been replying to similar anti-BC statements on Twitter lately yeah, elon is a dickhead depression spiral and only gets dopamine hits from chuds clapping and laughing for him. so he is gonna keep diving and diving.
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