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what about a missile ship that shoots missiles full of drones, and then the drones also have even smaller drones that come out?
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Apr 3, 2024 16:33
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ghosted by ghost book ghost written by ghosts.
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Apr 3, 2024 16:34
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euphronius posted:why doesn’t Australia make their own subs an australian sub sounds gross. smeared with vegemite instead of mayo, not cool
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Apr 3, 2024 16:36
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Delta-Wye posted:an australian sub sounds gross. smeared with vegemite instead of mayo, not cool Still sounds more edible than a typical sandwich from Subway
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Apr 3, 2024 16:45
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Ardennes posted:The 3 year delay on the Constellation is particularly startling since it is a frigate based on a pre-established design, I know they are having possible balance issues with it but taking that long with a frigate is going to be an issue especially since both classes of LCS are useless. Well they decided to modify a pre-existing asw platform to remove the bow-mounted sonar that was already part of the design because the limp-dick shipyard that got the contract doesn't have a deep enough drydock to accommodate the design with it included, so that probably says all you need to know about how the constellation is going to end up
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Apr 3, 2024 16:56
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The Oldest Man posted:Well they decided to modify a pre-existing asw platform to remove the bow-mounted sonar that was already part of the design because the limp-dick shipyard that got the contract doesn't have a deep enough drydock to accommodate the design with it included, so that probably says all you need to know about how the constellation is going to end up Also, I believe they switched up the VLS system which caused additional issues. That said, supposedly there is also pretty huge labor storages which is also just slowing everything down across the board (there is also just a perverse incentive to under hire to save on costs if the US Navy just doesn't matter whenever the ship arrives.)
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Apr 3, 2024 17:03
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china should build the Arsenal Gear from MGS2
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Apr 3, 2024 17:25
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euphronius posted:why doesn’t Australia make their own subs i assume they don't have the shipyard facilities couldn't they just build them? No. No neoliberal countries aren't allowed to do things.
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Apr 3, 2024 17:28
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euphronius posted:why doesn’t Australia make their own subs IIRC they were going to build them with French help but the Americans swooped in with what must have been an offer that couldn't be refused.
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Apr 3, 2024 17:36
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euphronius posted:why doesn’t Australia make their own subs It's not an "mutually beneficial economic exchange" it's a "shake down".
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Apr 3, 2024 17:46
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The Oldest Man posted:Well they decided to modify a pre-existing asw platform to remove the bow-mounted sonar that was already part of the design because the limp-dick shipyard that got the contract doesn't have a deep enough drydock to accommodate the design with it included, so that probably says all you need to know about how the constellation is going to end up
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Apr 3, 2024 17:46
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Ardennes posted:Also, I believe they switched up the VLS system which caused additional issues. That said, supposedly there is also pretty huge labor storages which is also just slowing everything down across the board (there is also just a perverse incentive to under hire to save on costs if the US Navy just doesn't matter whenever the ship arrives.) chill, post cold war admirals adopting a holistic lifestyle where they no longer have to worry about beating the soviets and can instead look forward to the sweet kickbacks they can squeeze out of their positions. work life balance 
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Apr 3, 2024 17:49
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That Japanese carrier vid is wild. Wonder what happens if someone were to do that again, but with twenty suicide drones, each aimed at a radome/antenna/sensor...
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Apr 3, 2024 17:55
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nomad2020 posted:IIRC they were going to build them with French help but the Americans swooped in with what must have been an offer that couldn't be refused. An offer they couldn't refuse as in they have ScoMo's video on Epstein island.
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Apr 3, 2024 17:56
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This is why all military officers need to be cut from the same cloth as Gordon, if you follow. Can't be bribed, no interest in teenage girls. Just not too far in that direction, or you get an Auchinleck.
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Apr 3, 2024 17:59
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i feel like china has better ways than some dinky lil' drone to sink a japanese baby carrier if they feel like it
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Apr 3, 2024 18:01
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Justin Tyme posted:That Japanese carrier vid is wild. Wonder what happens if someone were to do that again, but with twenty suicide drones, each aimed at a radome/antenna/sensor... wouldn't they just unload on them with one of those guns that looks like a minion with a boner? I'd imagine in a war scenario where the carrier is at sea they'd be a little more vigilant and probably detect the drones long before they got close. which could obviously be defeated by using more drones than they have ammo or some way of deploying the drones close to the ship. like maybe some kinda slbm drone swarm capsule or a drone swarm bomb dropped from a high altitude bomber.
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Apr 3, 2024 18:04
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Cerebral Bore posted:i feel like china has better ways than some dinky lil' drone to sink a japanese baby carrier if they feel like it yeah, probably more realistic to just launch a few hypersonic anti-ship missiles at it
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Apr 3, 2024 18:05
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do you think they would bother taking out a helicopter carrier
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Apr 3, 2024 18:06
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Hatebag posted:wouldn't they just unload on them with one of those guns that looks like a minion with a boner? I'd imagine in a war scenario where the carrier is at sea they'd be a little more vigilant and probably detect the drones long before they got close. which could obviously be defeated by using more drones than they have ammo or some way of deploying the drones close to the ship. like maybe some kinda slbm drone swarm capsule or a drone swarm bomb dropped from a high altitude bomber. the point is if you can walk up to a capital ship in dock with drones you can cripple it before it ever gets into the fight
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Apr 3, 2024 18:07
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The Oldest Man posted:the point is if you can walk up to a capital ship in dock with drones you can cripple it before it ever gets into the fight well that's cheating
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Apr 3, 2024 18:07
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Cerebral Bore posted:i feel like china has better ways than some dinky lil' drone to sink a japanese baby carrier if they feel like it Yeah, their flying lawnmowers have cameras on them and they also have the auto-factories coming online too. Danann has issued a correction as of 18:14 on Apr 3, 2024 |
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Apr 3, 2024 18:08
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Hatebag posted:wouldn't they just unload on them with one of those guns that looks like a minion with a boner? I'd imagine in a war scenario where the carrier is at sea they'd be a little more vigilant and probably detect the drones long before they got close. which could obviously be defeated by using more drones than they have ammo or some way of deploying the drones close to the ship. like maybe some kinda slbm drone swarm capsule or a drone swarm bomb dropped from a high altitude bomber. I'm thinking more of a first strike type deal where sleeper cells park a flatbed just outside the fence/across the harbor when the ships are at port. I am ASSUMING the ciws systems aren't even active when the ships are in port, so even if you saw the drones in the air over the sailor barracks or hq or whatever, there's not really anything you can do The Oldest Man posted:the point is if you can walk up to a capital ship in dock with drones you can cripple it before it ever gets into the fight Precisely
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Apr 3, 2024 18:10
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Granted, both sides can play that game, but I got a feeling the Chinese are paying more attention to the improvements in EW the Russians are doing than the JSDF.
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Apr 3, 2024 18:12
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You guys are talking as if it was some Chinese spy agent who did it to "send JSDF a message", but it was a Chinese youtuber who flew his dji over because JSDF has no anti drone electronic interference fence around the carrier. Also the guy took some picture of the USS Reagan
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Apr 3, 2024 18:21
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Justin Tyme posted:I'm thinking more of a first strike type deal where sleeper cells park a flatbed just outside the fence/across the harbor when the ships are at port. I am ASSUMING the ciws systems aren't even active when the ships are in port, so even if you saw the drones in the air over the sailor barracks or hq or whatever, there's not really anything you can do if you have a real military you don't actually have to pull some dahir insaat poo poo
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Apr 3, 2024 18:23
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stephenthinkpad posted:You guys are talking as if it was some Chinese spy agent who did it to "send JSDF a message", but it was a Chinese youtuber who flew his dji over because JSDF has no anti drone electronic interference fence around the carrier. I'm talking about it as if any random schmuck could cripple a capital ship with off the shelf hardware and an afternoon off of work
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Apr 3, 2024 18:26
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Danann posted:
Lol at the 26-27% of Asians who trust the loving Japanese to be the best voice for Asia.
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Apr 3, 2024 18:26
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stephenthinkpad posted:You guys are talking as if it was some Chinese spy agent who did it to "send JSDF a message", but it was a Chinese youtuber who flew his dji over because JSDF has no anti drone electronic interference fence around the carrier. Also, yeah the USS Reagan clearly isn't anywhere close to being combat ready, and the USS Roosevelt is pretty much "keeping an eye" on China on its own.
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Apr 3, 2024 18:26
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wait reagan isn’t all there??
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Regarde Aduck posted:i assume they don't have the shipyard facilities Proles can’t seize the means of production if there just aren’t any.
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Apr 3, 2024 18:48
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Ardennes posted:The Union had a total higher deployment than the German allies, but they had a higher peak deployment during the war. I could see Sheridan not exactly be amazed beyond just a terrible job by the French. I mean in terms of geographical distances covered alone and that was while rebuilding a military officer corps from scratch because everyone 'good' had gone over to the slaveowners.
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Apr 3, 2024 18:49
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stephenthinkpad posted:because JSDF has no anti drone electronic interference fence well yeah, because an "anti drone electronic interference fence" doesn't exist. besides shooting them down with guns, there are very few options out there for anti-drone defense. US nuclear power plants can't stop drones from flying over them: quote:In the September incidents, a swarm of five or six large drones flew over the Unit 3 nuclear reactor at Palo Verde in Arizona for about eighty minutes, a length of time which suggested they were carrying out a thorough survey of the site. The documents released at the time referred to a similar incident at Limerick Nuclear Generating Station in Pennsylvania. so it isnt surprising that a carrier at port could get overflown by a drone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU936t1nJoY
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Trabisnikof posted:well yeah, because an "anti drone electronic interference fence" doesn't exist. There's geofencing though which would take at least some jailbroken firmware to get around.
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Apr 3, 2024 19:09
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Z the IVth posted:There's geofencing though which would take at least some jailbroken firmware to get around.
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Apr 3, 2024 19:24
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Ardennes posted:It is a popcorn flick that is supposedly designed to tell the audience that "America should stick together" so yeah. I heard the Civil War breaks out because the president disbands the FBI
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Apr 3, 2024 19:28
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This seems like a really good time to start working in the MIC. The grift numbers are going to go up to infinity
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ied dowsing rods, fake anti-drone guns, the f35 - if you've got enough money to bribe a half dozen brain dead army guys you could absolutely make a killing selling any old poo poo to the americans
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