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Minion necro feels ridiculous on the PTR. Just facerolled the WT2 capstone at level 30, but feels like I could have done it sooner. The minions fully carried me and rarely felt in danger of dying until the second half of the dungeon. That's when I switched out the shadowblight stuff for more defenses. Realized later that probably wasn't necessary. I had forgotten about the defender buffs (taunt, invulnerability). That came in handy for the huge damage spike that comes in WT3. Killing speed was much slower. Shadow minions seems like the way to go, even with an unoptimized build. The new shadow-warriors codex and mage revamp just destroys everything. That does bring up a question about the codex though. Will all characters now start with the lowest level codex powers unlocked, baseline? I boosted one of each class to 100 before leveling. I can't tell if that's what unlocked the codex stuff for me. If not, the game should probably reconsider it. I suppose they could artificially gate certain codex powers behind character level to force a sense of progression or curb power levels. But codex powers are gated behind mats and crafting anyways. I think my issue is, some of the codex stuff feels more like a talent point that is necessary for your build to come online. As opposed to a piece of gear that enhances a build. If that makes sense? Regardless, as leveling keeps getting streamlined it's going to feel more and more like a slog if I have to slow down to unlock codex powers from dungeons.
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I was thinking about coming into this thread asking if this game was good yet, but... I guess what I'm really hoping is that dodgeroll is good now. Is it good? We dodgerolling now? Pretty sure all the ARPGs besides Diablo are making their dodgerolls good.
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anothergod posted:I was thinking about coming into this thread asking if this game was good yet Also here for this. The itch is returning to click some demons.
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SPIRIT HALLOWEEN SALE posted:Minion necro feels ridiculous on the PTR. minion necro is always a trap you just haven't sprung it yet
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KajiTheMelonMan posted:"We actually get to go outside a town in D2? Blizzard you have ruined this game! And there's loving sunlight?!?! THINK OF THE THEMATIC REPERCUSSIONS DEAR SIR" They did the same thing with D3, people were losing their poo poo because there were some bright colors.
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anothergod posted:I was thinking about coming into this thread asking if this game was good yet, but... I guess what I'm really hoping is that dodgeroll is good now. Is it good? We dodgerolling now? Pretty sure all the ARPGs besides Diablo are making their dodgerolls good.
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Field Mousepad posted:They did the same thing with D3, people were losing their poo poo because there were some bright colors. ??? people were losing their poo poo because d3 went blizzard house style and really suffers for it. Its a really awful looking game and not because of the colours like d3 eventually became a much better game but the style could never be replaced. They did do a lot with RoS, and the new act is much better visually especially the high heaven its still jarring to go back to d3 because it is so maximalist and yet I still played a ton of that garbage after RoS dropped
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Maybe that was your reaction but the popular criticism was indeed it was too colorful
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victrix posted:https://twitter.com/Rob_2628/status/1775513830879052177?t=6XoI1Dxsq9D6ZRjmwIQS_w&s=19 arpg gamers just want one thing and it's loving disgusting
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I remember people posting screen shots of A Rainbow?!!!?!?! In MY Dibblers3??!_!
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yeah it was very specifically the colors. I was there, 3000 years ago
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Diablo 4 for all its faults, looks great AND they nailed the atmosphere imo
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Based: Red, red and red, and fire, and red Gaysed: Blue, rainbows, green, birds
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Bisse posted:I remember people posting screen shots of A Rainbow?!!!?!?! In MY Dibblers3??!_! Yup, people were frothing at the mouth that it wasn't all grey and very dark grey. Those complaints led directly to them making Whimsyshire iirc
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I really enjoyed the weird layouts they put in later with strange time bubbles with different layouts in each one. Forget the map name.
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External Organs posted:D3 still looks great. Yeah. I honestly loved them using more of the Blizzard house style for D3. Wish they had in D4 too, but it's still a fun game even if I don't like how it looks as much. Bobby Deluxe posted:It was briefly good last season when you could turn into a bat, mark everything you phased through as vulnerable / afraid of you / damaged over time and also refil your ultimate. No idea if it's fun this season. Robot friend is personally my favorite season yet. Vamp powers were okay but I enjoy having this thing following me around buffing me or giving me infinite resource or whatever the gently caress else I set it up to do. I'm a sucker for pets and companions, though. Looking forward to minion buffs next season even if they'll probably get toned down from PTR.
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d3 looks like poo poo and always has. people were right to complain
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Bisse posted:I remember people posting screen shots of A Rainbow?!!!?!?! In MY Dibblers3??!_! this old chestnut (not mine. I love rainbows, obviously) 
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D3's goofy "hyper fantasy" or w/e swords and armor were worse offenders than the rainbows
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Field Mousepad posted:They did the same thing with D3, people were losing their poo poo because there were some bright colors. they were right. d3 is ugly as sin
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Mind over Matter posted:Robot friend is personally my favorite season yet. Vamp powers were okay but I enjoy having this thing following me around buffing me or giving me infinite resource or whatever the gently caress else I set it up to do. I'm a sucker for pets and companions, though. Looking forward to minion buffs next season even if they'll probably get toned down from PTR.
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An Actual Princess posted:d3 looks like poo poo and always has. people were right to complain Yeah it’s awful even though I don’t agree that colors are the issue
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Yeah. The color was the least bad thing about the graphics in that game. I enjoyed playing it but I always thought everything outside of the attack effects looked terrible. I still maintain that Wizard > Sorcerer/ess, though. Once you get a deathray it's hard to go back to fireballs and lightning bolts and ice... things.
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D3 looks good on a technical level, but just completely misses the tone and atmosphere. A couple places hit it but for the most part it’s a big miss. The scooby-doo villains are so bad.
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D3 still looks great to me. The painterly backgrounds are really well-done and every class has so much character in their animations and particle effects. It's one of the few 10+ year old games I can stand to look at.
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An Actual Princess posted:d3 looks like poo poo and always has. people were right to complain
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I just can't stand the WoW aesthetic. I prefer the look of D4 even if it is more generic.
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Wrex Ruckus posted:I just can't stand the WoW aesthetic. I prefer the look of D4 even if it is more generic.
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D4 spell effects are boring compared to D3; nothing really like a monk with the seven-sided-strike set or a Wizard’s anything in D4.
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if you're gonna go cartoony, go full cartoony like Torchlight I don't really like the look of grim dawn either, which is a shame because Victorian stuff could be cool
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Wrex Ruckus posted:I just can't stand the WoW aesthetic. I prefer the look of D4 even if it is more generic. d3 is more generic, it looks like every blizzard and blizzard rip off game ever made. d4 looks like a diablo game
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i mean once again this is just blizzard being fairly bad at understanding the aesthetic vibe from d1->d2 that solidified its popularity at the time. its literally just that the blizz house style doesn't give the right vibes for diablo, Diablo has been dark gothic fantasy (with the fantastic claymation style) compared to Warcrafts more maximal, true fantasy look. D3 is just a messy amalgamation that doesn't work for me at all. It seems to have been due to A) blizz north being dead for D3s development. B) the frankly still ludicrous popularity of WoW at the time and them trying to entice that crowd into Diablo Bringing back and making monk good after the mess that was the hellfire monk was a great choice and it was my favourite class. When D3 did do something unique in Act 5 it was way better. They really hosed up basically following the D2 structure for act environments because it doesn't compare well. Then they tried to course correct D4 to a more Gothic look but still thought the issue was the vibrancy and effects or something? D4 has a better base look but could still use some creativity in the skills effects, hopefully the expac will be better Cerepol fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Apr 4, 2024 |
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Here's a hot take of mine: I never liked the whirlwind effect on the Barbarian skill so I never used it - just looks silly to me. Back in Diablo 2 times, I thought it was going to be a whirlwind of attacks not, you know, actually spinning around with your arms out like a child would do in a pretend fight.
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Cerepol posted:D4 has a better base look but could still use some creativity in the skills effects, hopefully the expac will be better
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(Those were supposed to be in the launch version and were advertised for the launch )
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The skill point visual thing does actually currently exist, but I believe the gate for getting upgraded visuals is like 10 points in the skill. It's easy to see with sorc fire skills, because they get blue flame touches when it happens.
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euphronius posted:(Those were supposed to be in the launch version and were advertised for the launch )
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Jimbot posted:Here's a hot take of mine: I never liked the whirlwind effect on the Barbarian skill so I never used it - just looks silly to me. Back in Diablo 2 times, I thought it was going to be a whirlwind of attacks not, you know, actually spinning around with your arms out like a child would do in a pretend fight. This is the best part of whirlwind and I hate that the D4 whirlwind is "realistically" slow and weighty or some poo poo, with how fast early fury burns out it's like my barb does a 720 and fat guy wheezes, out of breath. Gimme the whirling dervish pretend fight poo poo! bio347 posted:The skill point visual thing does actually currently exist, but I believe the gate for getting upgraded visuals is like 10 points in the skill. It's easy to see with sorc fire skills, because they get blue flame touches when it happens. lol no way, how many players have never seen that? I know I haven't. You should see your Big Attack get Bigger from 1-2-3-4-5 or 1-3-5, then maybe 5-10 or 6-9-12-etc. It's so easy to never get a skill above a 9 without specific gear, I think my best was Rupture 11 in S1 as a contrarian bleed barb with the unique that gives rupture +4-5.
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