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pedro0930
Oct 15, 2012
USC: Counterforce mentioned a few weeks ago is on sale so I bought it to check it out. While it does have a lot of squad/equipment management, but it's mainly because the game does not give you any default loadout, so yes, it'll take you awhile to read up what all the skills do and kit out everyone. The inventory bloat in this game very much reminds me of Silent Storm. There are like 10 different kind of medkit, guns has different ammo, lots of different kind of guns with even more locked behind progression.

It has some neat things going...there is environmental destruction and manipulation. You can blow open wall to open up new avenue, if you are in space blowing open the outer wall will fortunately not suck everyone out with decompression but will cause rapidly drop in temperature, eventually characters will freeze, and you can then shatter them for instant kill. You can move around crates and barrel to create makeshift barricade to block melee enemy and provide range cover, etc.

The game uses an action point system and compares to something like X-COM you have a lot of action points. Shooting costs fixed amount of AP instead of a % so fast character with fast gun can shoot A LOT (for example, you can fire over 20 times with the default pistol a turn with high agility).

Combat is actually...not that lethal? With high skill you don't consume medical item when healing someone above 50% hp, so you can top everyone off for free. Tank, dodge tank is a thing in this game. On the flip side most aliens are bullet sponges, even with heavy weapon like chain gun or grenade launcher you'll need many hits to kill even the most basic enemies that's not a "swarmer" type alien.

Now the bad: There's some weird attack pattern thing, some weapon can fire only strictly straight and diagonally....like what? I guess it's mainly used to differentiate weapon but it's weirdly artificial. Alien turn is slow. The game move them one at a time unlike modern TBS, even for alien that's not in your field of view.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1574870/USC_Counterforce/

pedro0930 fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Apr 4, 2024

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GhostDog
Jul 30, 2003

Always see everything.
For german goons maybe wondering why some games have suddenly been geoblocked:

Valve posted:

For a few years, both Brazilian and German laws have required that games in those markets have a content rating to help customers find age-appropriate content. For Germany in particular there has been a legal debate whether this requirement only applies to games newly introduced to the market or also to the back catalogue.

The German regulatory authority BZKJ has expressed to us their interpretation of the law applies to all games on Steam, including ones that were launched before the law came into effect. As a result, we will be required to only offer games for sale in Germany that have either been through Steam's built-in rating process or have a rating issued by Germany's rating agency, USK.

Therefore, to ensure that your games do not experience any disruption in sales within Germany, please visit this page to check whether all your older titles have a rating: https://partner.steamgames.com/healthcheck/missingrequiredratings
If not, please fill in Steam's content review questionnaire for each game to help us assign an appropriate rating.

To be fair, I did notice it only now because it's mostly an issue for porn games, but the Metal Gear Solid Master Collection somehow got caught up in this despite a game like that normally having an official USK rating anyway.

Tbh I'm surprised the german bureaucracy is okay with Steam providing their own rating system in the first place.

Veotax
May 16, 2006


The next patch for the System Shock remake is finally dropping on the 11th, if anyone was waiting for it before playing the game. Game will be 25% off then too.

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/482400/view/4104540932632136261

Big changes are that the entire final boss has been reworked, you can now select a male of female player character and cloud saves are a thing now. Other stuff in there too like new attacks for some enemies and balance changes.

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

Veotax posted:

The next patch for the System Shock remake is finally dropping on the 11th, if anyone was waiting for it before playing the game. Game will be 25% off then too.

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/482400/view/4104540932632136261

Big changes are that the entire final boss has been reworked, you can now select a male of female player character and cloud saves are a thing now. Other stuff in there too like new attacks for some enemies and balance changes.

Does uhh...female player character addition involve a different model in a singular third-person shot and some new gameplay grunts?

Not that I'm complaining, having options is always good, just a weird thing to decide to implement.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Jack Trades posted:

Does uhh...female player character addition involve a different model in a singular third-person shot and some new gameplay grunts?

Not that I'm complaining, having options is always good, just a weird thing to decide to implement.

There are a few files and such which refer to the hacker as "he" or "him" so I imagine those will change.

Fat Samurai
Feb 16, 2011

To go quickly is foolish. To go slowly is prudent. Not to go; that is wisdom.

Gromit posted:

Come join us in the Noita thread, we could do with a reason to post there. And by that I mean see you posting all your death GIFs that the game will let you make.

Started the game, game asked me to enter a cave to my right, went "gently caress you" and walked left for a while. Found a wall, tried to climb because apparently I have a jetpack? Surprise, it's not a wall but a tree which I can sorta climb by hugging it. A branch cuts my progress but has a shiny on it, so I test the jetpack for a while and I can use short burst to sort of "glide" and go around the branch. It's a frost egg or something and there is a cave with a Curse of Greed or something. I take it, get cursed and jump into a portal.

I'm on the mines now, but while I'm taking a look the floor turns into some green goo and it kills me.

Good job, me.

Fat Samurai
Feb 16, 2011

To go quickly is foolish. To go slowly is prudent. Not to go; that is wisdom.
Started again, it's raining. Went left, branch is bigger because the game is tired of my poo poo, but I can still navigate around.

Cave is still there, I decide not to grab the curse this time and exit the cave to check an opening I've seen below.

As soon as I exit the cave 6 floating eyes spit acid at me and the rain pools have become acidic pools and there are acid clouds or something.

Fat Samurai
Feb 16, 2011

To go quickly is foolish. To go slowly is prudent. Not to go; that is wisdom.
Third times the charm, the egg isn't there this time (I tossed it and a worm spawned out and GTFO). I dick around the tree and find out my second wand shoots crystals that, when shot, explode. After a few minor burns, I use the wand to dig under the three. There is a waterlogged path that takes me 60% of my health to navigate, but net me an ininteligible scroll. Yay.

But now I'm trapped. The interior is explosion resistant. Resigned to my fate, I take a deep breath and submerge again. I'm not going to make it.

But what's that? The water level is dropping for some reason. Something has dig a channel downwards.

It's Wormy! (maybe? It's the worm permanent now? Is she a pet?). Whatever she is, she's digging paths and the water is dropping! She has saved me!

And then she ate me.

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


lol now that i think about it that drat tree is pretty fuckin' troll-y, huh

FYI we have a thread for Noita if you want to ask questions or :justpost: about your runs or post death GIFs (turn on the recorder in the options) or whatever

Phigs
Jan 23, 2019

GhostDog posted:

For german goons maybe wondering why some games have suddenly been geoblocked:

To be fair, I did notice it only now because it's mostly an issue for porn games, but the Metal Gear Solid Master Collection somehow got caught up in this despite a game like that normally having an official USK rating anyway.

Tbh I'm surprised the german bureaucracy is okay with Steam providing their own rating system in the first place.

If they didn't I imagine Germany would just lose indie games.

credburn
Jun 22, 2016
President, Founder of the Brent Spiner Fan Club
I still can't get used to people referring to single entities as a "mob." I know some people have been doing this forever, but since Minecraft it's really become just common parlance and I loving hate it.

Volte
Oct 4, 2004

woosh woosh

credburn posted:

I still can't get used to people referring to single entities as a "mob." I know some people have been doing this forever, but since Minecraft it's really become just common parlance and I loving hate it.
I'm pretty sure it's been common parlance since at least like Everquest or before. I've never associated it with Minecraft at all.

John Lee
Mar 2, 2013

A time traveling adventure everyone can enjoy

I don't like "mob," but I have a weirdly intense dislike for "toon." Can't stand it.

Veotax
May 16, 2006


Jack Trades posted:

Does uhh...female player character addition involve a different model in a singular third-person shot and some new gameplay grunts?

Not that I'm complaining, having options is always good, just a weird thing to decide to implement.

I think it was a Kickstarter stretch goal, those can be kind of a reach sometimes, I guess. Just them finally implementing it

John Lee posted:

I don't like "mob," but I have a weirdly intense dislike for "toon." Can't stand it.

Same. I barely hear mob used outside of Minecraft, but I hear toon enough in MMO circles and I've always hated it.

mystes
May 31, 2006

credburn posted:

I still can't get used to people referring to single entities as a "mob." I know some people have been doing this forever, but since Minecraft it's really become just common parlance and I loving hate it.

Ainsley McTree
Feb 19, 2004


Volte posted:

I'm pretty sure it's been common parlance since at least like Everquest or before. I've never associated it with Minecraft at all.

I’ve always associated it with MMOs yeah. Don’t know the origin, it’s just what they’re called

At least you don’t hear “toon” anymore much

orcane
Jun 13, 2012

Fun Shoe
Single entities can be mobile.

E: people getting mad at "toon" has been entertaining me for two decades+, keep it up

orcane fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Apr 4, 2024

Squiggle
Sep 29, 2002

I don't think she likes the special sauce, Rick.


Volte posted:

I'm pretty sure it's been common parlance since at least like Everquest or before. I've never associated it with Minecraft at all.

Way before. It's like being irrationally mad at the floppy disk save icon.

edit:

Richard Bartle posted:

"When I took over programming MUD1 (ed: in 1980), all objects except player characters were static, ie. they didn't move. I wanted some objects that did move, so I could use them for monsters etc.. I needed a name, for programming reasons if nothing else (the variable names, the record structure name). I didn't want to call them "monsters", though, because I could see their being used for non-monsters, eg. helpful humans."

Squiggle fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Apr 4, 2024

Jack B Nimble
Dec 25, 2007


Soiled Meat

Neat! Used the terms for ages and also just assumed it meant mob like horde or throng.

Anti-Hero
Feb 26, 2004

Veotax posted:

The next patch for the System Shock remake is finally dropping on the 11th, if anyone was waiting for it before playing the game. Game will be 25% off then too.

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/482400/view/4104540932632136261

Big changes are that the entire final boss has been reworked, you can now select a male of female player character and cloud saves are a thing now. Other stuff in there too like new attacks for some enemies and balance changes.

loving finally. I bought the game on release, noticed some things they said would be patch, and have been waiting ever since. Not the best look.

Hogama
Sep 3, 2011

Jack B Nimble posted:

Neat! Used the terms for ages and also just assumed it meant mob like horde or throng.
Amusingly enough, mob in the sense of large (often disorderly) gathering is also short for "mobile" - in this case, the etymology stems from mobile vulgus, "excitable rabble" or "fickle crowd" (mobile still meant "moveable" but it was used in an emotional sense for the phrase).

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

We should have been calling groups of mobs "rabs" this whole time.

The 7th Guest
Dec 17, 2003

https://www.fanatical.com/en/pick-and-mix/platinum-collection-build-your-own-bundle

3 for $10, 5 for $15, 7 for $20

Dishonored 2
Wolfenstein: TNO and The Old Blood
Panorama
Parkasaurus
Saturnalia
The Wreck
Homebody
Highwater
Raji: An Ancient Epic
Batbarian
Tainted Grail: Conquest
Fresh Start
No Place Like Home
How 2 Escape
Clive 'N' Wrench
Lost Ruins

Batbarian is a solid Metroidvania from what I've played so far, Homebody is a pretty good time-loop survival horror without combat, No Place Like Home and Fresh Start are basically 'clean-em-up' games although NPLH has more farming in it while Fresh Start is just pure "clean this area". This might finally be the right buy-in price for Clive'N'Wrench which has mixed reviews and apparently is very buggy.

The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 20:46 on Apr 4, 2024

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Petition to change "Mobs" to "Bills" instead.

funkmeister
Feb 20, 2010

About your father. If it's any help, he's in the ground now. Sure, it's bad news for him. But on the other hand, it's party time for all those little worms.
nope, they are "vulgs" now

John Murdoch
May 19, 2009

I can tune a fish.

Jack Trades posted:

Does uhh...female player character addition involve a different model in a singular third-person shot and some new gameplay grunts?

Not that I'm complaining, having options is always good, just a weird thing to decide to implement.

The sim's not very immersive if I'm forced to play a dude.

Lister
Apr 23, 2004

My 73 year old mom had been playing a bejeweled browser game knock off for a few months. I set her up with a steam account, bought her a legit copy of Bejeweled 3 about two months ago and now she's said that she's 100% it. She's looking to play something else and I'm not exactly sure where else there is to go in the causal game genre. Her eye sight is bad so hidden object games are out. I don't want to get her into the micro-transaction hell of candy crush. I'm thinking maybe something like Regency Solitaire, but with how much she plays I think she'd be done with it in a couple weeks. Any suggestions?

Awesome!
Oct 17, 2008

Ready for adventure!


would she like square logic? https://store.steampowered.com/app/32150/Everyday_Genius_SquareLogic/

because that has a lot of puzzles

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



In my experience moms love Mahjong, so maybe find the highest-rated Mahjong game on Steam that doesn't have too many bells and whistles

claw game handjob
Mar 27, 2007

pinch pinch scrape pinch
ow ow fuck it's caught
i'm bleeding
JESUS TURN IT OFF
WHY ARE YOU STILL SMILING
Could always try League of Mermaids, which has a solid little campaign and also multiple endless modes.

kazil
Jul 24, 2005

Derpmph trial star reporter!

Lister posted:

My 73 year old mom had been playing a bejeweled browser game knock off for a few months. I set her up with a steam account, bought her a legit copy of Bejeweled 3 about two months ago and now she's said that she's 100% it. She's looking to play something else and I'm not exactly sure where else there is to go in the causal game genre. Her eye sight is bad so hidden object games are out. I don't want to get her into the micro-transaction hell of candy crush. I'm thinking maybe something like Regency Solitaire, but with how much she plays I think she'd be done with it in a couple weeks. Any suggestions?

Dark Souls.


actually Peggle

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Ah, we're giving joke answers.

In that case, give her Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous

RPATDO_LAMD
Mar 22, 2013

🐘🪠🍆

Lister posted:

My 73 year old mom had been playing a bejeweled browser game knock off for a few months. I set her up with a steam account, bought her a legit copy of Bejeweled 3 about two months ago and now she's said that she's 100% it. She's looking to play something else and I'm not exactly sure where else there is to go in the causal game genre. Her eye sight is bad so hidden object games are out. I don't want to get her into the micro-transaction hell of candy crush. I'm thinking maybe something like Regency Solitaire, but with how much she plays I think she'd be done with it in a couple weeks. Any suggestions?

Does she like nonogram/picross games? There should be a bunch of those.

You could also try some roguelike bejeweled clones like You Must Build A Boat which might keep her engaged longer with the replayability (or maybe the rpg elements stuff will turn her off).

You can also find a lot of similar casual puzzle games by using something like steampeak to search for games "similar to" bejeweled 3. That search gives me other match 3 games like Puzzle Quest or You Must Build a Boat but also other kinds of casual games like Peggle and Zuma

RPATDO_LAMD fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Apr 4, 2024

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

Lister posted:

My 73 year old mom had been playing a bejeweled browser game knock off for a few months. I set her up with a steam account, bought her a legit copy of Bejeweled 3 about two months ago and now she's said that she's 100% it. She's looking to play something else and I'm not exactly sure where else there is to go in the causal game genre. Her eye sight is bad so hidden object games are out. I don't want to get her into the micro-transaction hell of candy crush. I'm thinking maybe something like Regency Solitaire, but with how much she plays I think she'd be done with it in a couple weeks. Any suggestions?

A Little to the Left

Squiggle
Sep 29, 2002

I don't think she likes the special sauce, Rick.


Lister posted:

My 73 year old mom had been playing a bejeweled browser game knock off for a few months. I set her up with a steam account, bought her a legit copy of Bejeweled 3 about two months ago and now she's said that she's 100% it. She's looking to play something else and I'm not exactly sure where else there is to go in the causal game genre. Her eye sight is bad so hidden object games are out. I don't want to get her into the micro-transaction hell of candy crush. I'm thinking maybe something like Regency Solitaire, but with how much she plays I think she'd be done with it in a couple weeks. Any suggestions?


Awesome! posted:

would she like square logic? https://store.steampowered.com/app/32150/Everyday_Genius_SquareLogic/

because that has a lot of puzzles

This is probably the best suggestion you'll get, but I'll add:

Hexcells
Dorfromantik
A Little to the Left
Mini Metro or Motorways maybe? mmm nah, it doesn't have the same set-your-own-pace thing going that others do.

RPATDO_LAMD posted:

Does she like nonogram/picross games? There should be a bunch of those.

Ooh also good suggestion!

Squiggle fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Apr 4, 2024

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Phlegmish posted:

In my experience moms love Mahjong, so maybe find the highest-rated Mahjong game on Steam that doesn't have too many bells and whistles

Best Mahjong game on Steam is the free FFXIV trial.

Autolyze
Dec 19, 2005

They did not know that they were going to tune in on A.D. 13,582.

Lister posted:

My 73 year old mom had been playing a bejeweled browser game knock off for a few months. I set her up with a steam account, bought her a legit copy of Bejeweled 3 about two months ago and now she's said that she's 100% it. She's looking to play something else and I'm not exactly sure where else there is to go in the causal game genre. Her eye sight is bad so hidden object games are out. I don't want to get her into the micro-transaction hell of candy crush. I'm thinking maybe something like Regency Solitaire, but with how much she plays I think she'd be done with it in a couple weeks. Any suggestions?

I've been getting my mom similar Steam games for the last couple years and the biggest hits by hour-count have been:

Regency Solitaire: 114 hours
Hexcells/Hexcells Plus/Hexcells Infinite: 75 hours combined
Dorfromantik: 60 hours
Glass Masquerade 1/2/3: 24 hours combined
Wingspan: 15 hours (although she'd already played plenty of the board game)

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
If her eyesight is bad, a little to the left might be frustrating.

kazil
Jul 24, 2005

Derpmph trial star reporter!

What about Hidden Object Games? Stuff like the Artifex Mundi games or even the new stuff that's finding a billion cats.

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Lister
Apr 23, 2004

Thanks everyone! These are all great suggestions. I can try to get her on some nonogram or mahjong games in a browser first to see if she likes those before buying anything complicated. Peggle type stuff or even peglin could be worth a try if she wants something with lots of replay value. The deal is that she doesn't want intense thinking games since she likes to play these while she listens to podcasts (and yeah, it's full on boomer brained stuff that I never hear the end of). I'll still pick some of those and see how they work out.

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