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Which season of Doctor Who should get a Blu-ray set next? This poll is closed. |
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| One of the black-and-white seasons |
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16 | 29.63% |
| Season 7 |
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7 | 12.96% |
| Season 11 |
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1 | 1.85% |
| Season 13 |
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0 | 0% |
| Season 15 |
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2 | 3.70% |
| The Key to Time |
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21 | 38.89% |
| Season 21 |
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0 | 0% |
| Season 25 |
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7 | 12.96% |
| Total: | 54 votes | ||
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God, The Eleventh Hour was so loving good. Amelia Pond and The Raggedy Doctor 
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Apr 5, 2024 04:01
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Jerusalem posted:God, The Eleventh Hour was so loving good. Amelia Pond and The Raggedy Doctor Amelia Pond waited 14 years and it's now been 14 years since The Eleventh Hour aired
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Apr 5, 2024 04:23
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jisforjosh posted:Amelia Pond waited 14 years and it's now been 14 years since The Eleventh Hour aired Uhhh that was season 5 and we're currently up to season 14, that's only 9 years friend, you must be pretty embarrassed right now.  Anyways, we need to warn the people of 2018 about COVID! That way it'll be different from... oh, everybody was warned the first time around... 
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Apr 5, 2024 08:51
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The Eleventh Hour really is the best Doctor introducing episode in the entire new show. I haven't seen the classics, so I can't compare to those.
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Apr 5, 2024 09:21
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SirSamVimes posted:The Eleventh Hour really is the best Doctor introducing episode in the entire new show. I haven't seen the classics, so I can't compare to those. Spearhead from Space is pretty great, probably the best of the classic new Doctor episodes, certainly the best one that's intact. It does the same sort of job as 11th Hour in changing production methods as well the cast. Robot isn't bad, Castrovalva is... fine if you like the Bidmead approach to things, The Twin Dilemma is maybe the worst serial I've ever put in my eyeballs and I think breaks the rule that you can always find a Who fan that'll like something and Time and the Rani has pretty much nothing going for it aside from camp (and it's not even the best episode in that series at being camp).
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Apr 5, 2024 09:41
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2house2fly posted:I don't think it even happened again in Moffat's run on the show, characters died but not specifically so the main character wouldn't have to. I think that was the resolution to the Eaters of Light. It really feels in the Timeless Children like the only reason the Doctor isn't pressing the button is that
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Apr 5, 2024 09:54
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And somehow being hit by a hundred laser shots doesn't quite kill him, so he's still able to press the button after being gattling lasered.
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Apr 5, 2024 09:57
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To be fair, clearly the Master was using his Tissue Compression Eliminator to compress time. As a result time slowed down and it APPEARED that he and the Cybermen were simply standing there watching the Doctor and Ko have a long chat while doing absolutely loving nothing and not even really reacting to anything... which then sped time up to catch up back to normal, and that brief sped up section allowed him and the Cybermen to all race to his TARDIS in the time it took Ko Sharmus' corpse to push the button and blow up Gallifrey ((again) again)  It's simple sci-fi math, people! 
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Apr 5, 2024 10:00
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SirSamVimes posted:The Eleventh Hour really is the best Doctor introducing episode in the entire new show. I haven't seen the classics, so I can't compare to those.  Honestly I think all of the revival era intro eps have been rock solid, but Smith's is def the best.
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Apr 5, 2024 10:09
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I remember the Capaldi intro ep being a loving mess but I haven't watched it since it aired.
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Apr 5, 2024 10:18
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I'm not keen on Eleven's run overall - it's not the disaster Six or Thirteen's were, but I didn't like any of the season arcs and I think by the end Smith and Moffat took 11 in a direction I am very very unhappy with. But The Eleventh Hour was amazing and the best bits of Smith's stint on the show tend in my mind to be the ones which touched on the same spirit.
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Apr 5, 2024 10:19
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PriorMarcus posted:I remember the Capaldi intro ep being a loving mess but I haven't watched it since it aired. My main recollection is the entire first half doesn't have enough Doctor in it.
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Apr 5, 2024 10:19
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To be fair even 10 spends 3/4 of his regeneration episode literally asleep before waking up to save the day. Capaldi spends the first half of his ep being an absolute post-regenerative mess, the first part of the back half being a complete cock to Clara, and the last part defining what his Doctor will be like Also has one of the hardest lines in all of the revival  "I've got a horrible feeling I'm going to have to kill you.. thought you might appreciate a drink first, I know I would" I don't mind 14 and 15 coming out fully cooked, cause that's def fun, but I hope we still get confused regenerations in the future - it's how we got 11th Hour
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Apr 5, 2024 10:51
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Infinitum posted:To be fair even 10 spends 3/4 of his regeneration episode literally asleep before waking up to save the day. I think 11th Hour gets it right because WE can see exactly what this new Doctor is like even if HE doesn't know who he is yet.
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Apr 5, 2024 11:06
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The first half of Deep Breath is really bad, the post-regeneration zaniness is unfunny and grating. Everything from the moment they arrive at the restaraunt is good, though and it gave us the most Twelve-Clara exchange possible. "This is more important than your megalomania!" "Nothing is more important than my megalomania!" "...You actually said that."
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Apr 5, 2024 11:07
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Deep Breath is kinda crazy in how bad the first half is and how they seem to flip the switch in the restaurant scene and their descent below into the second half, and suddenly everything is firing on all cylinders.
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Apr 5, 2024 11:07
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Rank em! Post Regeneration Episodes 1 - The Eleventh Hour 2- The Woman Who Fell To Earth 3 - The Christmas Invasion 4 - Deep Breath Rose, The Star Beast, The Giggle/The Church on Ruby Road are all odd ducks - as they're all 'fully cooked' Doctors. If I were to include them they'd look like this New Doctor Episodes 1 - The Eleventh Hour 2 - The Giggle/Church on Ruby Road 3 - The Star Beast 4 - The Woman Who Fell To Earth 5 - The Christmas Invasion 6 - Deep Breath 7 - Rose
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Apr 5, 2024 11:39
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The Woman Who Fell to Earth showed such great promise, and I still think it stands up really well as an intro episode, but sadly it was an intro to a Doctor and an era of the show that we didn't actually end up getting
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Apr 5, 2024 11:42
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Robot will always have a special place in my heart because I just immediately understood what Tom Baker wanted to do with the character and wanted to see it, but Spearhead from Space definitely establishes its era really well. An Unearthly Child is a really good first episode. Power of the Daleks sort of makes the Daleks scary again, so there's that. I don't really like Castrovalva, The Twin Dilemma is really bad and good grief, I'd forgotten Seven's intro was a Rani serial. And then Eight has the failed TV pilot. Real rough patch for awhile there.
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Apr 5, 2024 11:51
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Fil5000 posted:Spearhead from Space is pretty great, probably the best of the classic new Doctor episodes, certainly the best one that's intact. It does the same sort of job as 11th Hour in changing production methods as well the cast. I can't help but notice you skipped over one "introduce the newly regenerated Doctor" story. Probably because Power of the Daleks is so good that it would interrupt answering the question to make you rave about how good Power of the Daleks is. It's sooooo good.
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Apr 5, 2024 11:51
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Jerusalem posted:The Woman Who Fell to Earth showed such great promise, and I still think it stands up really well as an intro episode, but sadly it was an intro to a Doctor and an era of the show that we didn't actually end up getting Yeah basically. The Woman Who Fell To Earth separated from the rest of the season is an EXTREMELY great intro ep. Dark, spooky, with a menacing enemy to defeat, ending with the inklings of a steampunk engineer Doctor? Can't wait! https://i.imgur.com/TOuJoSr.mp4  So much potential wasted
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Apr 5, 2024 11:58
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Also while it was never going to last since she needed the clean break in looks AND I really dug the Doctor's eventual new outfit... but she absolutely rocked the tattered remains of Capaldi's outfit, it was a great look.
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Apr 5, 2024 12:12
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Infinitum posted:Rank em! I thought I had just a short while ago posted a ranking of Doctors' debut episodes, so I looked through my post history and indeed I had... about three years ago. Time flies when there's actually some new Doctor Who to watch occasionally! Forktoss from the past posted:Doctor debut stories that are very bad: Since then we've also had The Star Beast and The Church on Ruby Road, both of which I liked but I'm not sure how to categorise. The Star Beast is steeped 15-year-old in Tennant-era lore and based on a 45-year-old DWM comic, so in that sense it's not exactly approachable to newcomers, but it's the debut RTD and Disney banked their New Who 2.0 on and it seemed to work fine, so what do I know. As for The Church on Ruby Road, I'll have to wait and see more of the Gatwa era before I can tell whether it's representative of what the show is now going to be like.
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Apr 5, 2024 12:13
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Random Stranger posted:I can't help but notice you skipped over one "introduce the newly regenerated Doctor" story. Probably because Power of the Daleks is so good that it would interrupt answering the question to make you rave about how good Power of the Daleks is. Power is great but I've only experienced it in novel form so I don't know that I can judge it properly. Also fun barely related fact, I have a biscuit tin signed by John Peel, writer of the Power novellisation and also the first New Adventure.
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Apr 5, 2024 12:13
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Fil5000 posted:Power is great but I've only experienced it in novel form so I don't know that I can judge it properly. They did a really good animated release (and I got to see it at a movie screening, which was a treat), and though it isn't quite the same as getting to actually see Troughton's performance, it's a huge step up from the original way I "watched" it via a limited telesnap reconstruction that was made in like the late 80s/early 90s.
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Apr 5, 2024 12:17
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It's a shame because even through the bad repros, you can tell that Power is good.  I really do like Robot more than I should. 
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Apr 5, 2024 12:21
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Even with the somewhat more promising quality of Jodie's debut I'd rate it below every other post-Regeneration episode of the new series because Tim is such an uninteresting villain that he drags the entire thing down, and the fact he gets to kill a potential companion just feels so gratingly false.
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Apr 5, 2024 12:36
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Jerusalem posted:Also while it was never going to last since she needed the clean break in looks AND I really dug the Doctor's eventual new outfit... but she absolutely rocked the tattered remains of Capaldi's outfit, it was a great look. I think you and I have been on the exact same wavelength about Jodie's run since it started, and that we're both continually bummed that her run wasn't under a competent showrunner. https://i.imgur.com/l1QEcKZ.mp4
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Apr 5, 2024 12:53
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I'd forgotten how Third Doctor she felt at first. I didn't mind the villain being kind of bland and looking like a rejected Buffy the Vampire Slayer demon, but it does suck that he got to kill a potential companion, yeah. It felt like an unnecessary fake-out. I like the mourning the other companions have to do, but it would almost be better if that was something that had been in process before the Doctor showed up, instead of it being one of the first things that happens in her tenure.
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Apr 5, 2024 13:06
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Also, and I know I'm an outlier on this because I think visually at least the Jodie seasons are quite well regarding, but I thought The Woman Who Fell to Earth was absolutely horrible looking. It was so pedestrian and bland, filmed entirely on drab sets (even the Tardis interior ended up being drab and dark) and empty streets. I did not care for it. Meanwhile Fourteen comes out of the Tardis in such a distinctive (real world) location that's buzzing with people and has a kind of gloss and energy to it that was immediately impactful, compared to the kind of kitchen sink filming of the Jodie years which started right from her pilot.
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Apr 5, 2024 13:37
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Shoestring budget vs Disney+ budget
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Apr 5, 2024 13:41
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Infinitum posted:I think you and I have been on the exact same wavelength about Jodie's run since it started, and that we're both continually bummed that her run wasn't under a competent showrunner. Yep! ... yep ... 
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Apr 5, 2024 13:53
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The weirdest part of Woman Who Fell To Earth is when uh the guy Tim Shaw's trying to murder kicks Tim Shaw, and Thirteen snaps at him "You had no right to do that!". Like, Tim Shaw was already holding and about to use a teleporter, so kicking him off a crane doesn't actually hurt him since he's not going to land, and his DNA is already melting anyway. Why is harmlessly kicking the guy who just tried to murder you the thing that crosses a line here? In retrospect, it's an early sign of Thirteen's absolutely bonkers morality.
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Apr 5, 2024 19:45
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Lottery of Babylon posted:The weirdest part of Woman Who Fell To Earth is when uh the guy Tim Shaw's trying to murder kicks Tim Shaw, and Thirteen snaps at him "You had no right to do that!". Like, Tim Shaw was already holding and about to use a teleporter, so kicking him off a crane doesn't actually hurt him since he's not going to land, and his DNA is already melting anyway. Why is harmlessly kicking the guy who just tried to murder you the thing that crosses a line here? This felt like one of the few moments where Chibnall acknowledged the Moffat years, and it felt like a response to Twelve's first episode. Unfortunately Chibnall also apparently never watched any more of Twelve so still felt it nessecary to address. Seriously, it's amazing how much Chibnall ignores all the great work Moffatt did moving the Doctor and the universe forward.
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Apr 5, 2024 20:24
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I think Chibnall was just writing the Who he'd wanted to write since 1986. Anything he took from the revival was by accident
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Apr 5, 2024 21:01
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To be fair, undoing the Doctor saving all those kids from being obliterated by the Daleks so they could instead be brutally and mercilessly murdered by the Master really paid off both narratively and emotionally by... oh wow no there's loving nothing.
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Apr 5, 2024 21:08
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I'm surprised that Woman Who Fell To Earth is held in high regard. It's not terrible or anything, but it's really boring. I will say that it's Jodie at her best dressed in her entire run though.
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Apr 5, 2024 21:47
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SirSamVimes posted:I'm surprised that Woman Who Fell To Earth is held in high regard. It's not terrible or anything, but it's really boring. I will say that it's Jodie at her best dressed in her entire run though. If Jodie had been in a suit her whole run it would be the most well regarded era of Who in history, even if all the writing were exactly the same
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Apr 5, 2024 22:16
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I dunno, the suspenders+jacket outfit is cute. Capaldi had some truly hideous outfits- remember the swiss cheese jumper? E: this link, despite what you might think, does not display an image of Peter Capaldi hitting some kind of rock bottom in public. It's a picture of him in his Doctor Who outfit filming Doctor Who 2house2fly fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Apr 5, 2024 |
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Apr 5, 2024 22:38
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No way, Capaldi’s casual outfits loving ruled. There’s something inmensely cool about CapaldiDoc in particular going full casual instead of just wearing the typical stuffy or posh poo poo all the time.
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Apr 5, 2024 22:49
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