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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Which is actually kind of interesting since bush jr was pretty easily responsible for way more human suffering than trump. Sure trump completely dropped the ball on covid, but even then the US only had about 20% more per capita deaths from covid than the EU or about 200k if you attribute the entire difference (including '21 onward) to trump. trump is by all means more of a personally malicious rear end in a top hat, but his unprecedented incompetence and laziness prevented him from doing most of the terrible poo poo he talked about. globally at least bush was seen as america.jpeg, trump was viewed more as america's id different aspects i guess but they both captured a certain element of america
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psydude posted:Even Nixon managed to make the EPA and normalize relations with China. Stupid Nixon tried to normalize with Stupid China (North Korea)
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Which is actually kind of interesting since bush jr was pretty easily responsible for way more human suffering than trump. Sure trump completely dropped the ball on covid, but even then the US only had about 20% more per capita deaths from covid than the EU or about 200k if you attribute the entire difference (including '21 onward) to trump. trump is by all means more of a personally malicious rear end in a top hat, but his unprecedented incompetence and laziness prevented him from doing most of the terrible poo poo he talked about. Yeah but those dead weren’t Americans (and were brown).
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Yeah, Bush 2 was easily worse for the world overall. Trump's dipshittery was much more localized to the US, and I think it's still too soon to gauge the long term impacts versus Bush. Trump definitely helped amplify the culture war poo poo, regressive legislation, and packing the courts at all levels with just the worst human beings available, but he also had a lot of help with that and you can't pin it primarily on him and his administration the way you could argue, say, the 2008 recession with Dubya and friends.
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Dubya and Trump are so loving awful we have to use special terms to describe their awfulness. Now we all know Jimmy Carter was histories greatest monster, but Dubya is definitely doing key bumps in hell with Kissinger and Nixon before it’s all said and done.
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Nixon at least had a kind of Shakespeare villain dignity to him.
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The Eyes Have It posted:I was just looking at some old stuff from years ago and ran across comics / commentary I remember about the Bush Jr presidency. What a wild ride. Bush jr. was worse than Trump. Republicans seem to exclusively elect monsters. I can't see how anyone would want more of what they've given the world. Grip it and rip it fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Apr 5, 2024 |
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Grip it and rip it posted:Bush jr. was worse than Trump. That was my position until the whole “first non-peaceful transition of power” event in the history of a nation that had a civil war.
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AI is going great folks. The planet Earth was shot upwards of 15,000 times in an incident today for failing to cease movement when ordered to by NYPD officers.
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https://twitter.com/highbrow_nobrow/status/1775977484472787087?t=QvQphCaDPUbQX4IHDJ6uuQ&s=19 I have done a complete 180 on RFK Jr. He has to stay in the race now, until the bitter end, and also ditch that lady and pick George Santos as his running mate. America deserves nothing less.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:The planet Earth was shot upwards of 15,000 times in an incident today for failing to cease movement when ordered to by NYPD officers. but this is the most believable part
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Am I nuts or do the services seem to be on a spree of relieving field grade commanders of duty right now? What in the wide world of gently caress is going on? In Red Storm Rising this was a sign the ruskies were getting serious lol.
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The piece of poo poo that ran my brigade was fired from his second brigade command for toxic leadership. Good riddance, wish it had happened sooner. People came out of the woodwork on reddit about him, he had been a toxic shithead since he was a lieutenant. Who woulda thought? I think it's the military looking at why people are leaving and seeing poor leadership as one of the most commonly cited reasons. Edit: I cannot talk enough poo poo about field grade officers. They may not have created the lovely work culture but they have definitely contributed towards maintaining it.
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Mustang posted:The piece of poo poo that ran my brigade was fired from his second brigade command for toxic leadership. Good riddance, wish it had happened sooner. Even among officers, they talk poo poo. The level of anger at O-6s and up that Majors have is astonishing.
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:What in the wide world of gently caress is going on? Peacetime. Peacetime is happening.
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facialimpediment posted:Peacetime. Peacetime is happening. Good lord, I had heard of peace, but had never lived it. I guess a few decades of “gently caress it, just send it.” as institutional policy is leading to some spicey careers ending. 
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:Good lord, I had heard of peace, but had never lived it. Does Peacetime mean that the up or out policy is more strictly adhered to? Like did waivers get passed around for spicy poo poo because they needed bodies for the sandboxes?
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Nystral posted:Does Peacetime mean that the up or out policy is more strictly adhered to? Like did waivers get passed around for spicy poo poo because they needed bodies for the sandboxes? I had literal felony waivers in my basic training class (2008), and a dude literally take a drunken poo poo on the floor of the cadre bathroom at OCS (then refuse to clean it up) and still graduate. I doubt either of these things would fly now. Hell, I have doubts that I could even get in at this point.
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facialimpediment posted:Peacetime. Peacetime is happening. The peacetime mentality never went away. Hell it only went on hold for a few months at the start of OIF/OEF. The moment fobs started getting built up and having burger king, green bean coffee the PT belt loving cowards like Raymond Chandler went right back to their buddyfucking ways, if they ever left them behind former sergeant major of the army and future corpse chandler never did Bullet point carrerism is a large part of the reason we haven't won a war in 80 years. No one wants to rock the boat and risk their career. TTPs may have changed, leadership culture hasn't. Everyone knows the unit SHARP who's a sex pest, the unit Nazis who have 1488 or 6mwe stickers on their cars, the anti-vaxxers who wont get their flu shot but have the whole anthrax series and other malicious asskissing idiots you can't trust in a fight but who look great on paper because they've never done poo poo, never taken a risk and wouldn't know incoming fire until it ventilates their skull. Competency is punished because competent people do poo poo and make small mistakes that they learn from in training. Pencilwhip dipshits then punish them for minor poo poo while adding risk management bullet points to their own NCOERs/OERs. The only reason bastards are getting exposed now is social media and the internet make it a lot easier for people to keep in touch and get signatures on their complaint letters before forwarding them to higher and the media. After all the worst thing you can do to leadership is embarrass them by shining a light on what they've actually done. Need to make like the early part of WW2 and purge most of the higher leadership to force a change in culture that actually cares about the right poo poo. In short, end the academy system. Also I'd like a large fries plz.
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Leaking the story to Navy Times was the only way sailors on my last boat were able to get the CO to deal with the bed bug infestation (good thing the staterooms are far away from the dirty enlisted racks!). Social Media and the internet are great ways to hold fuckhead worthless officers accountable, since the individual services sure as poo poo won't do it. Maybe if they started imposing actual consequences on all these motherfuckers, like force retiring them at an E1 paygrade, they'd stop driving drunk, abusing junior enlisted, loving their subordinates etc. But they're all buddies so the worst that happens is they're relieved and shuffled off to somewhere they can't gently caress up too bad until they get retired out on the tax payers dime at $70k plus/yr.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:AI is going great folks. Until this moment i had thought when people were talking about grok they meant the dumbass football player. This makes so many things people were talking about recently make more sense
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Of all the things Musk deserves to be hung upside down by his scrotum for, turning the perfectly cromulent nerd neologism "grok" into the name of a racism-enabled chatbot is solidly in the middle tier of the list imo.
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:globally at least bush was seen as america.jpeg, trump was viewed more as america's id I found it amazing that despite all of the crap Trump did, I still hated Bush more until about the last few months of the Trump administration. You're right that they are both different flavors of garbage. Bush seemed to want to impress daddy by finishing the war he started, Trump had daddy issues.
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Hey, Bush's wars gave a lot of us a free college education and lifelong disability payments, so that's something.
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Bush's wars also contributed a lot of funding and therefore jobs, directly and indirectly, to the manufacturers of Rip It, Coors, Jack Daniels, and other beverage companies. Even Military Special probably saw a spike in sales due to self medication.
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Kazinsal posted:Of all the things Musk deserves to be hung upside down by his scrotum for, turning the perfectly cromulent nerd neologism "grok" into the name of a racism-enabled chatbot is solidly in the middle tier of the list imo. Everyone's in a gold rush, Nvidia is selling the pickaxes, and elon's desperately huffing iron pyrite to try and look cool.
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Kazinsal posted:Of all the things Musk deserves to be hung upside down by his scrotum for, turning the perfectly cromulent nerd neologism "grok" into the name of a racism-enabled chatbot is solidly in the middle tier of the list imo. Grok is a very old slang term in silicone valley. We would use it inchanged with wok and rock as a silly way to describe something awesome. This was back in the mid 90s.
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Crab Dad posted:Grok is a very old slang term in silicone valley. We would use it inchanged with wok and rock as a silly way to describe something awesome. It's from Robert Heinlein's 1961 novel Stranger in a Strange Land and means, approximately, to comprehend and understand something or someone in the fullest way possible, as if it were consumed and made part of your person.
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Stultus Maximus posted:It's from Robert Heinlein's 1961 novel Stranger in a Strange Land and means, approximately, to comprehend and understand something or someone in the fullest way possible, as if it were consumed and made part of your person. So it's in line with Elon's use of very niche literature references to name the barges his rockets use to land.
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It hasn't exactly been forgotten since then. I don't use it often, but I've seen nerds and geeks use it on the internet as long as I've been online.
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facialimpediment posted:Everyone's in a gold rush, Nvidia is selling the pickaxes, and elon's desperately huffing iron pyrite to try and look cool. Bro is deep in the mercury vapors.
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CBJSprague24 posted:So it's in line with Elon's use of very niche literature references to name the barges his rockets use to land. Wikipedia has a good summary. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grok?wprov=sfti1 It’s not even the first utility to be called grok, by far https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/grok.html
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Stultus Maximus posted:It's from Robert Heinlein's 1961 novel Stranger in a Strange Land and means, approximately, to comprehend and understand something or someone in the fullest way possible, as if it were consumed and made part of your person. Also the only way to pass on something you grok with is with an orgy. But only in a hetero way, being gay is gay according to Heinlein.
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Stultus Maximus posted:It's from Robert Heinlein's 1961 novel Stranger in a Strange Land and means, approximately, to comprehend and understand something or someone in the fullest way possible, as if it were consumed and made part of your person. Probably the most obnoxious use I’ve seen for it is a ‘corporate wellbeing’ app called “grokker.” As far as I can tell it’s in the same ilk as those Amazon booths and maybe a way to spy on employees’ diaries.
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CBJSprague24 posted:So it's in line with Elon's use of very niche literature references to name the barges his rockets use to land. I think it’s pretty unlikely Elon ever actually read Banks; the Culture novels would give him a panic attack
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Stultus Maximus posted:It's from Robert Heinlein's 1961 novel Stranger in a Strange Land and means, approximately, to comprehend and understand something or someone in the fullest way possible, as if it were consumed and made part of your person. Yes I’m sure that’s were it came from originally but in common usage online it was certainly being by used online in the early 90s and not the 60s.
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Tiny Timbs posted:I think it’s pretty unlikely Elon ever actually read Banks; the Culture novels would give him a panic attack I'm sure he's heard an audiobook. It's just that his level of comprehension is "cool spaceships! Cool AI!" Crab Dad posted:Yes I’m sure that’s were it came from originally but in common usage online it was certainly being by used online in the early 90s and not the 60s. "I grok Spock" was a thing on t-shirts at Sci-Fi conventions back in the 70s. Edit: apparently it was also a thing during the write in campaign to save Star Trek in the late 60s. A.o.D. fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Apr 6, 2024 |
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A.o.D. posted:I'm sure he's heard an audiobook. It's just that his level of comprehension is "cool spaceships! Cool AI!" Same bunch of nerds that were getting in sweaty orgies at conventions in the 1970s were the ones on the internet in the 90s.
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every time I see grok i mmediately assume someone misspelled "gork", one of the two brother ork gods, and then i am very dissapointed in the truth of the matter. gork and mork would have no time for sweaty orgies, gork and mork have their priorities straight (fighting) hell yeah
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Crab Dad posted:Yes I’m sure that’s were it came from originally but in common usage online it was certainly being by used online in the early 90s and not the 60s. The campaign to save the original Star Trek TV series handed out bumper stickers that said "I Grok Spock". It was in common usage offline before it was in common usage online. Because prior to the early 90s, there was common usage of anything online.
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