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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:They didn't even cast her. She just walked on set and started talking engineering stuff and everyone had to improv around her. "and this is the mawwiage between warp core and plasma manifold" really is this idea any different from Argyle in TNG, anyway? i don't think so
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MikeJF posted:Pelia's accent is great. If you think of it as an accumulation of accents over the millennia, it fits perfectly!
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Arivia posted:"and this is the mawwiage between warp core and plasma manifold" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiJ6tsuUPAs AlternateNu fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Apr 8, 2024 |
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Squizzle posted:i wish madeline kahn were alive enough to play a character in snw too. imagine her and kane bouncing performances off one another while anson mount does a series of pikefaces in the background of the shot *console explodes* Flames, flames! On the side of my face! Breaths, heaving breaths...
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I'm truly enjoying yet another Enterprise rewatch. It's fun, if a little ham handed, to hint around the various circumstances that lead to the prime directive ("the Captain will have to come up with some directives of his own around this"). Also I'm really enjoying the two episodes that start with the crew going to Risa and then something comes up and they have to wait again. I know it's coming in the next episode, but it's still nice to see that little bit of proto-serialization. I wish they could have done a better job of actually growing Archer into a historic founding father of the Federation. I can see some bits of him being an unqualified nepo-baby in early episodes, but I think they started him too far behind the curve. If they'd played him more as unprepared instead (because truly no human could truly be prepared to captain this vessel) it would have been much easier to show him growing. A Starfleet captain, much less the storied Jonathan Archer can't start off sucking so much. It's not very Star Trek.
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Delsaber posted:*console explodes* Flames, flames! On the side of my face! Breaths, heaving breaths... she could have delivered the sheer loving hubris picard line and made it work
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My friend's Trek introduction continues with her foray into TNG. Again she asked for a list of "essential" episodes, so I went with a mix of good/fun/important ones with the occasional infamously bad one thrown in. Her comments... Her next episode is Skin of Evil. I hope she isn't too attached to the crew yet. (If anyone isn't interested in these I can stop posting them; someone had enjoyed her TOS comments though, so I'll keep them up if there's interest.)
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WhiteHowler posted:My friend's Trek introduction continues with her foray into TNG. Again she asked for a list of "essential" episodes, so I went with a mix of good/fun/important ones with the occasional infamously bad one thrown in. Her comments... dont stop, and if anyone tells you to, disregard them. if you cannot disregard them, gently slap them
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WhiteHowler posted:(If anyone isn't interested in these I can stop posting them; someone had enjoyed her TOS comments though, so I'll keep them up if there's interest.) I'm delighted every time you post one of these.
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WhiteHowler posted:My friend's Trek introduction continues with her foray into TNG. Again she asked for a list of "essential" episodes, so I went with a mix of good/fun/important ones with the occasional infamously bad one thrown in. Her comments... No way, these are the absolute best. "The new medical officer is a fox" nailed that one out of the gate 
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McSpanky posted:No way, these are the absolute best. I'm not going to tell her about the doctor change in TNG season 2, or that Dr. Crusher comes back in season 3. We watched Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home together over the weekend. It's her favorite movie so far, as she's still salty at Wrath of Khan for letting her think Spock was forever-dead. We're skipping The Final Frontier because it sucks and not much in there is important to the storyline, but The Undiscovered Country is my personal favorite Trek movie and gives a nice send-off for most of the characters who don't show up in Generations. Squizzle posted:dont stop, and if anyone tells you to, disregard them. if you cannot disregard them, gently slap them Thanks. I'm having a blast getting new reactions from a complete Trek newbie. She loves the series, I think TOS still more than TNG, but she'll probably come around once we get into "good" TNG. I'm not going to post my suggested TNG episode list before she watches them because it'll result in a hundred "how dare you leave out X episode" posts. I think I covered all the good/important ones.
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WhiteHowler posted:We're skipping The Final Frontier because it sucks Mods?!?
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ban anyone who watches or engages in a watchlist. make up your own mind
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Mods?!? I gave 5 a rewatch a few months ago to see if my opinion had changed. It has not. I hate that movie worse than I hate Nemesis, which is a considerable amount.
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The camping scenes alone in V are better than the entirety of Nemesis
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These are amusing, keep going. The mention of how Geordie's visor works reminded me how in one of the early episodes, maybe in the pilot itself, Picard tells Geordie to go look out the window at the space mcguffin of the week, because he can see the full spectrum and obviously the big monitor in the front of the bridge is only broadcasting visible spectrum stuff. I remember thinking that was really cool once I knew what that meant. It really sucks it's never used again.McSpanky posted:"The new medical officer is a fox" nailed that one out of the gate You mean out of the Gates?
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They should have had a little porthole next to the viewscreen for Geordi to peer through
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Geordi sticking his head up a blingy hood ornament on the front of the saucer section
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I get why everyone thinks more about Wesley in Justice, but what I always think of are the weird perv aliens that have been looking after the primitive natives and feel the need to destroy the Enterprise if they ruin their "innocence".
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SlothfulCobra posted:I get why everyone thinks more about Wesley in Justice, but what I always think of are the weird perv aliens that have been looking after the primitive natives and feel the need to destroy the Enterprise if they ruin their "innocence". Their god has strong “conservative Christian dad in the Deep South” energy
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davidspackage posted:Geordi sticking his head up a blingy hood ornament on the front of the saucer section No one is allowed to talk to him, because he's on duty.
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Five is poo poo but the start of it is great and you'd miss out not seeing that
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I'm very much anti the critical reappraisal of TFF being Good Actually, but it's certainly not offensively bad. It's just kind of middling TOS badness that has a certain level of charm even though it's a total mess. It's the Generations of TOS... well, I guess Generations is also like ¼ a TOS movie but you know what I mean.
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I would rather watch Generations again than TFF Outside of the Kirk/Spock/Bones stuff, which is only a small part of the movie, the rest is rear end
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Generations and TFF both have some of the best character moments for their respective casts and the bad reputation both movies have gained over the years is really a shame. There’s only been two genuinely worthless Trek movies imo; Into Darkness and Nemesis. Everything else is fine-to-great.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Generations and TFF both have some of the best character moments for their respective casts and the bad reputation both movies have gained over the years is really a shame. Yeah, TFF and Generations share a really blah plot that made all the wrong choices, but have character moments that made me feel more than most of the other movies.
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I go hiking fairly regularly these days and the number of times I've gotten to a viewpoint and had to resist yelling "WE HAVE TRAVELED FAR!" at the top of my lungs is really getting up there.
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TFF is best enjoyed after several edibles. At least that's how I did it and it was a blast.
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TFF is very much a film that is less than the sum of it's parts. Weirdly, it's kind of similar to Batman & Robin in a way, to me. TFF has lots of individual moments that work, and none of them gel into a coherent whole, and a whole lot of crap that is easy to forget about in hindsight. Batman & Robin has a lot of big 'so bad it's good' or heavy camp laughs, but it also has a bunch of long, boring stretches that are easy to forget if you haven't seen it in a while. WhiteHowler posted:My friend's Trek introduction continues with her foray into TNG. Again she asked for a list of "essential" episodes, so I went with a mix of good/fun/important ones with the occasional infamously bad one thrown in. Her comments... Nth-ing the 'more pls' I liked her take on Amok Time because it reminded me that in the context of that episode, T'Pring is the heartless bitch cheating on Spock and trying to get him or Kirk killed. In the context of SNW, she's the smart, compassionate woman who I basically think "honey, you're too good for him" when she's with Spock.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Generations and TFF both have some of the best character moments for their respective casts and the bad reputation both movies have gained over the years is really a shame. TFF's cuts mean it barely makes sense and David Warner and the other ambassadors are wasted AND their storyline is stupid. It's definitely not fine
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Gaz-L posted:I liked her take on Amok Time because it reminded me that in the context of that episode, T'Pring is the heartless bitch cheating on Spock and trying to get him or Kirk killed. In the context of SNW, she's the smart, compassionate woman who I basically think "honey, you're too good for him" when she's with Spock. I very much like SNW's take on T'Pring. So far. Her story with Spock is one of the reasons that I would very much be okay with SNW just rolling on into TOS (and TAS!), changing out main characters as they go and starting to remake TOS episodes.
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Squizzle posted:instead of 5, binge all of TAS i agree, this is the correct take on tff
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Taear posted:TFF's cuts mean it barely makes sense and David Warner and the other ambassadors are wasted AND their storyline is stupid. It's not really a matter of cuts with TFF as it is that they were shooting what was only slightly just past a first-draft script. The WGA strike ended in August 1988, leaving David Loughery with a month to write the movie, because shooting had to begin by early October 1988 to meet the June 1989 release date. (And things got further hosed when the Teamsters went on strike on October 4, 1988, right when the production was due to begin location shooting.) That said, it's still one of my favorites of the TOS movies, due to some really dynamic direction from Shatner, a killer score by Goldsmith, absolutely luscious cinematography from Andy Laszlo, and an all-time performance by Laurence Luckinbill, who should have had a much bigger career than he did. (Check him out in William Friedkin's The Boys in the Band, he's dynamite in that, too.)
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You couldn't even really call TFF good but it's saving grace if anything is it simply does give you more of that TOS cast, character wise they're on point and there's a bunch of good moments in isolation even if the greater plot is bit of a whiff. I don't think you can say that about Nemesis at all. That movie really is the nadir of cinematic Star Trek by a very wide margin.
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5 is a load of nonsense but it's also fun. It's an entirely different sort of bad than Nemesis, which is simply irredeemable on any level.
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The parts with the main trio are great, but everything else is kinda tacked on and arbitrary. Except for Koord, always nice to see a Klingon regain their honor.
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There's an MST3k riff where they say that a movie isn't a movie and is more of a movieloaf. It is made of real movie pieces, chunked and formed. That's how I feel about V.
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