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Jezza of OZPOS posted:Do more jokers unlock at some point or. I just having awful luck? I feel like I'm stalling out a lot. I barely see anything with multiplicative scaling and the stuff I see with additive scaling seems super specific. Is the voucher to increase the rate of planet or tarot cards in the shop a trap? I like the Tarot one generally but only the planet one if I have something that scales off general planet usage
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new changes definitely make gold stake easier and more fun. after banging my head against gold for days i beat it second try with the new buffs. feel
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Apr 8, 2024 20:01
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There’s no solid estimate for the patch beyond in the coming weeks right? I may break from the game to wait for the changes so I’m not bored by the time they come around.
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Apr 8, 2024 20:09
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Apr 8, 2024 20:18
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Ayy I did it. Spent too much time adding cards to my deck before I got the Baron, but not bad for my first time past ante 12 small blind. Went through like 20 hands digging for Mimic in the shop with no luck. Probably should have dropped the Burnt Joker earlier but I couldn't resist temptation to keep double leveling high card every hand. 
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Neon Belly posted:There’s no solid estimate for the patch beyond in the coming weeks right? I may break from the game to wait for the changes so I’m not bored by the time they come around. I believe LT said they wanted to test these changes for about a week before releasing, so shouldn't be a terribly long wait.
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Apr 8, 2024 21:14
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Jezza of OZPOS posted:Do more jokers unlock at some point or. I just having awful luck? I feel like I'm stalling out a lot. I barely see anything with multiplicative scaling and the stuff I see with additive scaling seems super specific. Is the voucher to increase the rate of planet or tarot cards in the shop a trap? you can check the collection for all of the requirements to unlock jokers. legendaries will just say "?????" (but those are Soul exclusive anyway) a handful of useful ones are gated but a lot of it is just that there's 150 of those fuckers and the overwhelming majority of them are not useful at the point in time they appear for you
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Apr 8, 2024 21:20
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Panic! At The Tesco posted:new changes definitely make gold stake easier and more fun. after banging my head against gold for days i beat it second try with the new buffs. Not really though gold stake wasn’t really that hard it just narrowed the pool of possible strategies if you wanted to beat it consistently.
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Apr 8, 2024 21:33
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Did gold stake pretty easily on the beta version. I don't feel like the rental jokers are that punishing, basically because when you're doing well on a run you have enough money to make up 3 gold per turn anyway so either you're doing well and it doesn't matter or you're doing bad and it doesn't matter anyway. It feels like it mostly just narrows joker selection early on like eternal does.
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Apr 8, 2024 21:34
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gold stake sucked and as someone who did it 'legit' or whatever i'm glad fewer people have to deal with it now
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Apr 8, 2024 21:43
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So new changes feel really good. I've still bonked off of trying to beat orange stake but the feel is more fun. The ramping is less insane and more jokers are great. I reached ante 8 of orange stake going with the Moonknight strategy ("Random Bullshit, Go!") and nearly beat violet vessel off of a mixture of castle, holographic swashbuckler and constellation. It was a fun loss instead of an infuriating one.
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Apr 8, 2024 21:50
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Relyssa posted:gold stake sucked and as someone who did it 'legit' or whatever i'm glad fewer people have to deal with it now  I honestly still think it feels difficult, I just spend so much less time on runs that die in Antes 1-3
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Apr 8, 2024 22:01
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Arzaac posted:I honestly still think it feels difficult, I just spend so much less time on runs that die in Antes 1-3 this is the most important thing, honestly. gold stake before these changes you can tell right away if you're not escaping ante 1 or 2 and have to spend an eternity resetting for a good start. you're much more likely to at least get off the ground now
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Apr 8, 2024 22:43
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dear god new Yorick is sick
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Apr 8, 2024 22:48
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I'll still put in anybody's first Gold Stakes win into the Hall of Fame even after the patch, as far as I'm concerned, a win is a win. (I'm gonna keep playing the current version until the beta becomes 1.0.1 officially though.)
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Apr 8, 2024 22:51
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Since the discard / hand count decreases for higher stakes were removed, does that make the green deck less awful there?
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Apr 8, 2024 22:53
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Blue stake is still -1 discard after the changes. I was fine with Green deck until gold stake before, it being literally my favorite deck. IMO the -1 hand size alone made it miserable, just like it makes black deck miserable. In short, yes, getting rid of -1 hand size at gold stake would have fixed it, in my opinion.
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Apr 8, 2024 23:00
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We need this patch on switch asap
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Apr 8, 2024 23:16
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Finally beat Orange on Checkered deck: Started with Certificate and Odd Todd from the very first shop. Yeah occasionally Certificate popped out a card of the wrong suit but I really didn't care if it was a purple seal I wanted to discard anyways, or a blue seal I wanted to hold. It also kept vomiting out red seals on odds. The new blue seals are absolutely disgusting if you have a build growing, and doubly so if you've got the Observatory voucher.
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Apr 8, 2024 23:33
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Nooooo half the point of high stakes is to teach people to stop playing flush builds we can’t let them keep getting away with it Congrats tho first orange and gold are very satisfying even if incredibly frustrating Quantum of Phallus posted:We need this patch on switch asap I really want to try the new blue seal in particular. I had a small fondness for them and 8 ball despite being total garbage so I'm glad to see it get buffed. TBH I sort of wish 8 ball worked the same way rather than tarrot generation, if it had 2+ 8's give you a planet card (like old 8 ball) but of the hand played (or perhaps of most played hand/highest level planet). Tarrot generation is really cool don't get me wrong there's just a lot of stuff that already does it, not much planetary interaction. PoundSand fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Apr 9, 2024 |
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Sitting here at the dog park and drat I hope the mobile release is soonish
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 Got my first Gold Stake done before the Switch patch! Ride the Bus came early and got big, Supernova got to 57 in the end, Cartomancer and Riff-Raff kept feeding the Campfire until ante 8 where they were sold just to make sure I didn't die to the boss. 10/10 game, time to not deal with gold stake's bullshit till the patch lands.
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Apr 9, 2024 01:13
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They buffed bloodstone???
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Yeah now you can get even angrier when it doesn't proc a single time in 3 flush hands, killing your run.
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Apr 9, 2024 01:38
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sirtommygunn posted:Yeah now you can get even angrier when it doesn't proc a single time in 3 flush hands, killing your run. It's the same rng as the Wheel lmao
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Apr 9, 2024 01:56
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Fun fact about the guaranteed Buffoon pack: it's guaranteed in the first shop you visit, meaning you can still skip the first small blind (or even both ante 1 blinds!) and get it.
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Apr 9, 2024 02:15
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sirtommygunn posted:Yeah now you can get even angrier when it doesn't proc a single time in 3 flush hands, killing your run. or you can finds Oops all 6s and get a guaranteed x32 mult on heart flushes (and then run into the boss blind that disables hearts before the boss blind reroll voucher shows up)
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Lmao I burned myself out trying gold stake over and over, took some time off, came back to it today and got it on my first try. Didn't get a photo but I was playing checkered deck and got green joker on the first shop. Rode that for a bit, scaling it and saving up money. Got blue joker to help me through a bit more. Then I got an eternal vagabond and the tarot mult scaling joker. Made enough money to reroll a bit and bam, holographic stunt man! That was feeling pretty good but I desperately needed a mult multiplier. And then... God bless you campfire, right on ante 8 small blind. With vagabond I was able to scale it up to x5 before the boss, which went down to a single high card. I think I'm gonna steer clear of gold stake until the patch. But that felt pretty good. And very lucky.
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apophenium posted:Lmao I burned myself out trying gold stake over and over, took some time off, came back to it today and got it on my first try. Didn't get a photo but I was playing checkered deck and got green joker on the first shop. Rode that for a bit, scaling it and saving up money. Got blue joker to help me through a bit more. Then I got an eternal vagabond and the tarot mult scaling joker. Made enough money to reroll a bit and bam, holographic stunt man! That was feeling pretty good but I desperately needed a mult multiplier. And then... God bless you campfire, right on ante 8 small blind. With vagabond I was able to scale it up to x5 before the boss, which went down to a single high card. The specific stuff you got that run is a bit lucky, but you don't really need it. If you got green joker early on and blue joker you have a lot of breathing room to find what you need to clear the run and those are both common. Holo stuntman is nice but it's just fine without holo and it's only uncommon. Campfire cleared it but even gold ante 8 is doable without xmult, you can use some psuedo xmult like something duping your green. Orange/gold stake (or really any difficulty) is solved entirely by just going a high card/pair build that has some combo of early gaming scaling green/ride the bus/supernova/pants/square with whatever works and it'll happen within half a dozen runs or so. You get burnt by trying to go for harder hands because the penalties to deck manipulation (orange) and handsize (gold) are too stringent without a p exceptionally lucky run (or using erratic deck). That you were on checkered deck sort of indicates you were going for the beginner trap of flushes which will certainly be hard to win with on high stakes but it really isn't difficult at all to just play ante's 1/2 until you hit two common jokers and get a free win. Don't skip, don't try to be flashy, look for early scaling alongside some consistent flat scoring and transition into whatever gives you more points later while still playing simple hands and you'll win. It's exceptionally boring and I'm glad the dev is changing it but it's not a particularly hard problem to solve either. I think the main issue from a design perspective was that the early game conditioned people to go for certain things and ripped it away later. It really is that dead simple though, I was grinding up the yellow deck last weekend and here was my orange stake run. No foil, no polychrome, no rares, there is one negative but it was from a spectral pack because handsize was irrelevant. I played highcard and did nothing for 8 antes.
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Yeah absolutely true about high card/pair strats being the most dependable way to topple gold (or all of them). My failures with checkered deck came from trying to rely on flushes the whole game and then trying to transition to like flush five or flush house... but then not drawing that when I need it. You know what hand you can draw 100% of the time? High card! Using easy flushes with checkered to save up some money and build up some interest and then using that to get some better engine that can ramp high card. The changes (I haven't played with them too much, somehow, in trying to increase performance on the Steam Deck, I ended up with worse performance) seem to increase the potential winning setups for higher stakes while also increasing the kinds of complex decision making that really hooks me into the game. So I'm pretty excited to actually go for completionist++ with the changes.
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I've never been able to make Campfire work, are y'all running tarot engines to get cards to sell or what?
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quiggy posted:I've never been able to make Campfire work, are y'all running tarot engines to get cards to sell or what? Refresh the shop, buy tarot/planet card, immediately sell tarot/planet card, repeat.
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Tbh it also works extremely well if you have a spare joker slot because then you can sell jokers to buff it too. Combos well with joker stencil for exactly that reason.
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quiggy posted:I've never been able to make Campfire work, are y'all running tarot engines to get cards to sell or what? Yeah it works best if you can play with 4 jokers and spare money to buy cheap common jokers to buy/sell/re-roll to boost it up.
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ok, I'm just going to do it. I'm going to make this guy another few million dollars. are you ready? here it comes. Uno Balatro
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 Second gold stake win. Got real scary at the end since the first hand debuffed Cavendish and another one debuffed the queen mult. Got the win last hand.
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Well that's gonna be hard to beat. I assume going infinite depends on the boss reroll voucher? Also probably some luck with negative jokers. Could really have used some more +chips, hand size or the extra life joker. I did enjoy getting Constellation up to around 12X multiplier. Wondering if I also should have blueprinted mimic instead of baron, not sure how order of operations works out with that kind of thing.    
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Chadzok posted:ok, I'm just going to do it. I'm going to make this guy another few million dollars. Someone's already trying to make it. It...doesn't look good. https://store.steampowered.com/app/2882430/Baluno/
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god the new infuriating thing about high stakes is getting a scaling joker with perishable on it
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Alkydere posted:Someone's already trying to make it. It...doesn't look good. I dunno man looks to me like balatro was rushed to market just to try and get out ahead of this
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