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Hadlock posted:Is there any reason why they're shipping 70 year old airframes by ludicrously expensive air freight instead of by boat it's the marine corps flying poo poo, they probably need the hours or something. it's not commercial air freight.
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Hadlock posted:Is there any reason why they're shipping 70 year old airframes by ludicrously expensive air freight instead of by boat Land-locked country Switzerland, noted for having many convenient seaports. meltie posted:Is it particularly glib to think that perhaps they could have been flown over under their own power? Would have been a fun hop over the pond. It's possible, but flying a short-legged aircraft without aerial refueling capability across the Atlantic is a pretty miserable and risk-fraught process.
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Apr 10, 2024 01:41
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Ferrying any fighter jet across an ocean sounds like an exercise of amphetamines and piss bags.
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Full Collapse posted:Ferrying any fighter jet across an ocean sounds like an exercise of amphetamines and piss bags. BAU
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Full Collapse posted:Ferrying any fighter jet across an ocean sounds like an exercise of amphetamines and piss bags. Ferrying A-10s across the ocean is not fun, I hear.
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Apr 10, 2024 02:22
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Hadlock posted:Is there any reason why they're shipping 70 year old airframes by ludicrously expensive air freight instead of by boat Because the maritime environment is corrosive hell enough and risky enough that the cost is worth it would be my guess. I’m kinda surprised they weren’t brought under their own power but I’m sure there are reasons why.
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Full Collapse posted:Ferrying any fighter jet across an ocean sounds like an exercise of amphetamines and piss bags. They tend to just use modafinil now after it amphetamines were blamed for making F-16 pilots bomb Canadian soldiers.
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Apr 10, 2024 02:47
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The fighter guys i've talked to about that make it sound pretty miserable. You're chasing a tanker or multiple tankers across endless ocean with no way of standing up to take a piss for many hours. God help you if you gotta go #2. One guy flew from the west coast to guam and had to be helped out of the jet because his whole lower body went numb.
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Apr 10, 2024 02:50
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The visual image that comes to mind is a road trip from Dallas to Los Angeles. Flat straight endless nothing for 2000+ miles
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Apr 10, 2024 02:57
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Hadlock posted:The visual image that comes to mind is a road trip from Dallas to Los Angeles. Flat straight endless nothing for 2000+ miles That drive isn't flat at all, it kind of owns as you pass through and by all sorts of mountains, dunes, etc. Better if you end at San Diego than LA, though.
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Arson Daily posted:The fighter guys i've talked to about that make it sound pretty miserable. You're chasing a tanker or multiple tankers across endless ocean with no way of standing up to take a piss for many hours. God help you if you gotta go #2. One guy flew from the west coast to guam and had to be helped out of the jet because his whole lower body went numb. The disconnect between “coolness” and “quality of life” seems insane for tactical aircraft. They don’t get all that many flight hours either. Meanwhile a P-8 or KC-46 pilot not only have a lavatory and galley but they get an ATPL, type rating and hours to walk right onto the line at an airline.
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mlmp08 posted:That drive isn't flat at all, it kind of owns as you pass through and by all sorts of mountains, dunes, etc. Better if you end at San Diego than LA, though. Seriously New Mexico and Arizona are gorgeous. West texas… let’s say it wears out it’s welcome.
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hobbesmaster posted:The disconnect between “coolness” and “quality of life” seems insane for tactical aircraft. They don’t get all that many flight hours either. Meanwhile a P-8 or KC-46 pilot not only have a lavatory and galley but they get an ATPL, type rating and hours to walk right onto the line at an airline. Yeah, but Kelly McGillis isn't playing beach volleyball with the P-8 crew.
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Hadlock posted:Is there any reason why they're shipping 70 year old airframes by ludicrously expensive air freight instead of by boat It's probably easier bureaucratically to find money for flight hours on government owned aircraft than contract with a shipping company to move them Planes are expensive and not that heavy so it's not a completely unreasonable thing though.
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All I remember is doing 80mph in a Uhaul coming in to Albuquerque thinking my eyeballs were going to bleed The area in... Arizona where you cross the Continental divide at like, 7000 ft is pretty cool It's still very flat and long
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mlmp08 posted:Ferrying A-10s across the ocean is not fun, I hear. Crossing the Atlantic at 50mph must be rough.,
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I once did the drive from Ontario (leaving from Muskoka basically) to Western Canada, and let me tell you, it is very demoralizing to drive for 12 hours and still be in Ontario. E: North around Superior is a cool rear end drive though.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Hadlock posted:All I remember is doing 80mph in a Uhaul ... thinking my eyeballs were going to bleed That's just the Uhaul vibration experience
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Hadlock posted:All I remember is doing 80mph in a Uhaul coming in to Albuquerque thinking my eyeballs were going to bleed Thats in New Mexico bruv. You want desolate and featureless? drive between Las Vegas and Reno. It makes western Kansas look like Machu Pichu.
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mlmp08 posted:Better if you end at San Diego than LA, though. This statement is true of any travel route. Arson Daily posted:You want desolate and featureless? drive between Las Vegas and Reno. It makes western Kansas look like Machu Pichu. I've done both and this isn't true at all.
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Apr 10, 2024 05:57
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What is it, I-93 in Nevada that runs north/south up from Vegas? The limiting factor for seeing is the curvature of the earth. Also where I learned that Nevada Highway Patrol has forward-facing radar in their cars.
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it's US-95. i drove it once while i'd been out of antidepressants for a few weeks. its stark and beautiful in its own way but the monotony only being broken up by the occasional burnt-out shack that made me contemplate impermanence and death was a lot and it needled my chronic depression in exactly the wrong way. i cried at least once. do not drive us-95 while off your meds
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Arson Daily posted:Thats in New Mexico bruv. It was like 8 years ago, and it was day 2 or 3 it's all a blur
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Hitman contractors when they hear about another Boeing whistleblower.  https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/09/business/boeing-787-whistleblower/index.html quote:
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PittTheElder posted:I once did the drive from Ontario (leaving from Muskoka basically) to Western Canada, and let me tell you, it is very demoralizing to drive for 12 hours and still be in Ontario. North > South i just imagine the delivery pilots putting their phone braced between instruments and glass and watching movies the whole way.
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Cactus Ghost posted:it's US-95. i drove it once while i'd been out of antidepressants for a few weeks. its stark and beautiful in its own way but the monotony only being broken up by the occasional burnt-out shack that made me contemplate impermanence and death was a lot and it needled my chronic depression in exactly the wrong way. i cried at least once. do not drive us-95 while off your meds 95 runs the western edge of Nevada between Reno and Vegas. It's beautiful, with mountains all along the way, historic towns like Goldfield, Tonopah, etc. to visit, and the absolute beauty of the desert. I usually fly between Vegas and Reno, but I do the drive at least a few times a year. 93 runs the center of the state between Vegas up towards Elko. A different kind of beauty from 95, a little more "old west" feeling.
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The road from Vegas to Reno is a loving wasteland dotted with depressing shithole towns with 25mph speed limits Wtf are you people talking about “stark beauty” gently caress man there’s not even trees on the loving mountains. It’s a wasteland.
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Scrungus posted:Wtf are you people talking about “stark beauty” Me, trying to explain to people that Iceland is just a wasteland, and they've bought into their marketing hook line and sinker gently caress Iceland, and especially gently caress their wildly successful tourism board marketing department
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Hadlock posted:The visual image that comes to mind is a road trip from Dallas to Los Angeles. Flat straight endless nothing for 2000+ miles On I-10 in west Texas there was a picture of a grasshopper and then *splat* 80 miles of bug goo all over the windows.
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Wistful of Dollars posted:North > South
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Zero One posted:Hitman contractors when they hear about another Boeing whistleblower. My favorite part is the claimed retaliation against him for whistleblowing the 787 was to move him off and over to the 777 where he found additional covered up failures. quote:Salehpour said Boeing retaliated against him after he raised another concern about the 787 and a different plane model.
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Hadlock posted:All I remember is doing 80mph in a Uhaul coming in to Albuquerque thinking my eyeballs were going to bleed Eventually I want to cross the Continental Divide through the Eisenhower-Johnson Tunnel at ~11000 feet. I also want to drive cross-country. Once. In a rental. Then fly back. But companies that are cool about one-way rentals are becoming more few and far between.
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I've driven from NYC to Seattle twice: once in a U-Haul, and once in a Subaru with two cats, towing a trailer. I took the U-Haul through North Dakota, and the Subaru through South Dakota. It's a good thing I like audiobooks. The first time, I took Amtrak back. That was a great experience. The second time I just didn't return (also a great experience). Hertz and the other big companies are pretty good about one way rentals. You'll pay a premium for it though.
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I've, I guess technically driven across America, in two stages; Havelock NC to m Dallas, and then years later Dallas to San Francisco I did the first leg in about 28 hours, the second leg was more like 3 days, and exceedingly boring. NC to Dallas I took a 3 hour detour to drive "tail of the dragon" which is succinctly summed up as "famous for its 318 curves in 11 miles" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deals_Gap,_North_Carolina Getting ready to do NC to New Orleans in a '55 Citroen here in the next month or two. All rural highways no interstate (max speed is about 50mph) https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3997511 Was going to go over Easter but something came up
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Cactus Ghost posted:it's US-95. i drove it once while i'd been out of antidepressants for a few weeks. its stark and beautiful in its own way but the monotony only being broken up by the occasional burnt-out shack that made me contemplate impermanence and death was a lot and it needled my chronic depression in exactly the wrong way. i cried at least once. do not drive us-95 while off your meds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LtiHla1dNg // Iceland is beautiful and I'm not just saying that because the tourism board has paid me to. (I was literally paid to promote this idea.) // Armchair analysts love to wellactchually military actions and movements overseas as not efficient or whatever but you must keep in mind that you don't know poo poo about fleet management, and also every military action is subject to override by the political level; we literally flew MRAPs into Iraq by cargo plane even though it got fewer of them there per 30 days than putting them on a supercargo would because of the political risk of not 'protecting the troops'. // Don't ever spend your career flying an aircraft without a lavatory. Your bathroom needs after age 40 will be different. Think ahead, dipshit.
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Ambihelical Hexnut posted:Don't ever spend your career flying an aircraft without a lavatory. Your bathroom needs after age 40 will be different. Think ahead, dipshit. I'll never fly an airplane without a lav or an APU again. Im far to bougie and old to deal without them
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Hadlock posted:Me, trying to explain to people that Iceland is just a wasteland, and they've bought into their marketing hook line and sinker Oh, it's the type of person that describes the Grand Canyon as "mid". Safety Dance posted:I've driven from NYC to Seattle twice: once in a U-Haul, and once in a Subaru with two cats, towing a trailer. I took the U-Haul through North Dakota, and the Subaru through South Dakota. It's a good thing I like audiobooks. I did Maine to Seattle via SC and CA by motorcycle, it was really cool, Texas was kinda boring, but very chill dodging cities and highways, just miles and miles of farmland. NM and Eastern AZ were very beautiful, plus the Very Large Areay is there. Descending from the mountains into Phoenix and I-10 was like literally descending into hell, gently caress that. NM: 
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Driving on New Mexico highways: pretty, peaceful, oddly courteous and alert drivers. Hit border to Colorado: the map spawns in towed campers and RVs, average driver's brain turns to anger and porridge, but it's still pretty.
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