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docbeard posted:The United States is also facing the election of a genocidal rapist fascist, but with typical American extravagance, they have two of them
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i think you will find Joe Biden's "I'm happy Roe v Wade was overturned" party officially ended at 12:13 AM the next day, therefore it is incorrect to say that he threw a party "the same day". 4 flaming pinocchios
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docbeard posted:The United States is also facing the election of a genocidal rapist fascist, but with typical American extravagance, they have two of them
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Apr 11, 2024 21:17
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docbeard posted:The United States is also facing the election of a genocidal rapist fascist, but with typical American extravagance, they have two of them
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Apr 11, 2024 21:18
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I posit that calling anything and everything antisemitic is probably gonna end up backfiring bigly
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Scarabrae posted:I posit that calling anything and everything antisemitic is probably gonna end up backfiring bigly I don't think zionists see non-israeli Jews as actually Jewish or even necessarily human
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docbeard posted:The United States is also facing the election of a genocidal rapist fascist, but with typical American extravagance, they have two of them
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Attila, Alaric, Odoacer, and Gaiseric were all on the Roman payroll until the aristocrats double crossed them, either by not paying them, or trying to murder them, like they had Stilicho, which is why they marched on Rome to recoup their losses.
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Shageletic posted:Lmao There used to be that meme about how Republicans was the cop that kneeled on George Floyd, and Democrats was the cop that watched while it happened
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Ham Equity posted:At the risk of being Stancil'd, I'm gonna say I don't entirely disagree with this dude. The big political shakeups in the U.S. have historically looked like this, with one party losing so much support that they basically collapse. That party has either coalesced into a new party, or joined with an existing party. The Whig party collapsed in 1852, which led to the ascension of the Republican party, made up of ex-Whigs, prohibitionists, and the anti-immigrant Americanist party (known colloquially as the "Know-Nothings"). In 1948, the Dixiecrats defected from the Democratic party, and wound up being largely integrated into the Republican party, as they basically gave up on Northern Republicans, who jumped ship to the Democrats. The core mistake both you and that tweet are making is that this logic only works if there's an actual ideological divide between the parties. In this case such a divide doesn't really exist. And in the past, the parties that did form following such a split still represented some faction of the ruling class. So all you'd be doing is shuffling around which factions of the ruling class have the most influence. Also, I think that tweet isn't making quite the same argument you are. I think at least part of the tweet's argument is that, if the Democrats solely held power, it would result in them facing more scrutiny without the Republicans as a scapegoat, and that this would benefit the left. But I find this very doubtful, since we can literally just look at states where Democrats dominate and see that this doesn't happen. This photo looks like the SNP Trump guy dressed up to look like Bill Clinton.
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/mcinthedc/status/1778510602303942766?t=Ev6y9Fsil6d9PF4Z7XElmw&s=19 Libs stumbling rear end backwards into truth lmfao
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docbeard posted:The United States is also facing the election of a genocidal rapist fascist, but with typical American extravagance, they have two of them
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/mcinthedc/status/1778510602303942766?t=Ev6y9Fsil6d9PF4Z7XElmw&s=19 Amazing
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/mcinthedc/status/1778510602303942766?t=Ev6y9Fsil6d9PF4Z7XElmw&s=19 Wilhelmine Germany was planning the genocidal colonisation of Poland before WW1. In that regard Hitler was literally just continuing existing imperialist policy.
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/mcinthedc/status/1778510602303942766?t=Ev6y9Fsil6d9PF4Z7XElmw&s=19 Matt, buddy, do I have news for you
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Tricky D posted:Been seeing a lot of unsubstantiated rumors going and around and I wanted to clear the air: Joe Biden caused roe v wade to be struck down, is happy it happened and threw a party the same day. Any reports the contrary are without factual merit. this is the first I'm hearing of this. Very disturbing.
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Jen heir rick posted:this is the first I'm hearing of this. Very disturbing. poo poo, wait until you hear about the party Joe Biden threw to celebrate how happy he was at causing Roe v Wade to be struck down.
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the_steve posted:poo poo, wait until you hear about the party Joe Biden threw to celebrate how happy he was at causing Roe v Wade to be struck down. the party was catered by Jeni's I am pro ice cream and it brings me no joy to rerport this
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Ytlaya posted:The core mistake both you and that tweet are making is that this logic only works if there's an actual ideological divide between the parties. In this case such a divide doesn't really exist. And in the past, the parties that Ydid form following such a split still represented some faction of the ruling class. So all you'd be doing is shuffling around which factions of the ruling class have the most influence. Yeah as a person from NY and having seen Dem politics play out here first-hand, what happens when you're a one party Dem place is that Dems just get more corporate. And they care less about what their voters want. Who else are they going to vote for?! What they're positing is just an instrinsically wrong way to see power. Power doesn't listen to you because they're powerful. They listen to you if they have to, i.e. something bad happens to them if they don't.
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my bony fealty posted:Libs stumbling rear end backwards into truth lmfao How dare you, the German emperor only committed genocide in Africa, because unlike some Führers, the monarchy had respectability and decorum!
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just look at the most recent large dem majority state oregon they criminalized drugs again and thats not getting into the extremely awful anti-homeless policies they're pushing that even the gop is learning from them
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seems like just yesterday the democrats said that was the most important election ever.
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VitalSigns posted:I don't think there are enough mindless blue voters to keep Dems strong, the issue here is that Republicans don't address material conditions either so there's no real reason for anyone to vote for them. US politics is a prisoners dilemma where "Betray" represents betraying the ruling class and doing anything at all for regular people. Thankfully, the two participants can communicate and prevent that dreadful outcome.
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Excelzior posted:I'm sorry are you saying her ~ICONIC~ pantsuits didn't define an entire generation https://twitter.com/fOrGiVeNcHy/status/1278439031404191744
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pencilhands posted:Many young voters dislike both Biden and Donald Trump and aren't going to vote. A very polite way of expressing this is that some are what are euphemistically called "low-information voters" and blame Biden for things he can't control. It's like: "I read all about the eclipse and wanted to see it but it wasn't available in my state so I am going to blame the president. It's his fault." Many of them have no idea: (1) what Biden tried to do as president and (2) why he couldn't get it. To Democrats, preventing our ally from doing a genocide is as unfathomable as changing the arc of the sun in the sky
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lol now do Bernie as turds
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wow, that's rude. trash cans are actually valued and useful.
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Rubellavator posted:who cares what hillary wears *raises paw*
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PoontifexMacksimus posted:I am currently seeing this reported by multiple indecent sources. Fixed this to how I initially read it.
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“I’m a practicing Catholic. I’m not big on abortion" - Joe Biden, speaking at a fundraiser, June 27th, 2023
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VitalSigns posted:How dare you, the German emperor only committed genocide in Africa, because unlike some Führers, the monarchy had respectability and decorum! "A great task awaits you: you are to revenge the grievous injustice that has been done. The Chinese have overturned the law of nations; they have mocked the sacredness of the envoy, the duties of hospitality in a way unheard of in world history. It is all the more outrageous that this crime has been committed by a nation that takes pride in its ancient culture. Show the old Prussian virtue. Present yourselves as Christians in the cheerful endurance of suffering. May honor and glory follow your banners and arms. Give the whole world an example of manliness and discipline. Should you encounter the enemy, he will be defeated! No quarter will be given! Prisoners will not be taken! Whoever falls into your hands is forfeited. Just as a thousand years ago the Huns under their King Attila made a name for themselves, one that even today makes them seem mighty in history and legend, may the name German be affirmed by you in such a way in China that no Chinese will ever again dare to look cross-eyed at a German." Johannes Prenzler, ed., Die Reden Kaiser Wilhelms II [The Speeches of Kaiser Wilhelm II], unofficial version of speech reprinted in Manfred Görtemaker, Deutschland im 19. Jahrhundert. Entwicklungslinien [Germany in the 19th Century. Paths in Development], Schriftenreihe der Bundeszentrale für politische Bildung, vol. 274, Opladen, 1996, p. 357, trans. Thomas Dunlap. The inhabitants of Zhili cared little of such machinations of the foreigners; they were living under threat of foreign punitive expeditions. H. B. Morse states that between 12 December 1900 and April 1901, 46 expeditions took place, 35 of them solely German, 4 Italian, 1 British, 1 American, the rest mixed. Fedor von Rauch lists 61 punitive expeditions which took place at Waldersee’s command or were reported to him. Rauch doesn’t enumerate those operations which had been conducted prior to 29 September 1900. Accordingly to him, 40 of these expeditions were German, 8 Italian, 3 Austro-Hungarian, 2 Japanese, 1 British, 1 American, and 6 mixed. Susanne Kuß states that 76 expeditions took place in Zhili, 51 of them solely German. Moreover, the Germans were involved in 29 cases of fighting with the Boxers or Chinese soldiers. Such punitive expeditions were facilitated by attitude of many Chinese commanders and officials. The most astute of Chinese statesmen, Marquess Li Hongzhang, had for a long time been trying to negotiate on China’s behalf. He tried to mitigate Wilhelm II’s wrath. In August 1900 he humbly asked Emperor Francis Joseph I for an intercession, but the aged Emperor refused to undertake any steps. On 1 October, Li re-assumed the duties of Viceroy of Zhili. At the same time, he was appointed China’s negotiator during the peace talks, together with Prince Qing. The attitude of Li Hongzhang towards foreign occupants of Zhili was rather compliant. He ordered Chinese garrisons to retreat just before arrival of foreign troops. What was more important for the poor inhabitants of Zhili, Chinese governmental troops turned against the“Boxers”. The exact number of Chinese victims of the suppression of the Yihetuan movement will remain unknown, but it is certain that tens of thousands of people lost their lives. Only several punitive expeditions in Zhili will be summarized shortly. On 11 September 1900, both Hoepfner’s battalions of marine infantry, accompanied by Indian cavalry, surrounded and conquered a small city of Liangxiang held by Chinese troops and the “Boxers”. Accordingly to Susanne Kuß, all adult males were summarily executed, and the city was burned. Theodor von Winterhalder states that 800 Chinese were killed during the fighting and 150 “Boxers” were executed. Among the defenders were people who had taken part on siege of the legations in Beijing.183 On 16–17 September 1900, a coordinated punitive expedition of the allied forces took place to the west of Beijing. H. B. Morse claims that its target was a city of Sanjiadian, whereas Th. von Winterhalder states that the goal was a city of Badazhu. Both authors are describing the same expedition. Accordingly to Morse, three columns were supposed to surround the city, but the German one didn’t appear, and so the Boxers fled. Winterhalder states that the column in question, consisting of 1500 Germans, 100 Austro-Hungarians, and 170 Italians, arrived on time, but that the Americans attacked too early. Among more notable cities occupied by the Germans and other allied forces were Kalgan, an important city on the border with Inner Mongolia, or Baojingfu, the capital of Zhili. In China as well as at abroad, there were many complaints on be- haviour of various armies, especially of the Germans. Already on 18 October an American newspapers “New York Nation” wrote: “It is hard to avoid the conclusion that the greatest single obstacle of peace is the intran- sigeant attitude of Germany [. . . ] It is to Germany that the primacy belongs in aggression and mischief-making.”191 But the Germans already had in American eyes a rather undeserved reputation of being unenlightened and aggressive.192 Indeed, Waldersee’s army had been suggested to be aggressive. Alfred von Waldersee fully shared his Emperor’s attitude towards China. On February 21, 1901, he wrote in a private letter: “Our Kaiser was the only one who wanted to tackle the Chinese properly: if one had followed him we would long have had peace.” Both Germany and China had been represented at the First Hague Conference of 1899. Yet China did not ratify the 1899 “Convention with respect to the laws and customs of war on land” until 12 June 1907. Germany and many other great powers ratified this Convention on 4 September 1900, but their troops were behaving as if they had never heard about any regulations at all. As a matter of irony, Waldersee’s chief of staff General Schwarzhoff had been a technical expert of the German delegation at the First Hague Conference of 1899. As such, he had taken special care of the legal definition of combatants and non-combatants. But his participation in the conference seemingly had no impact on the behavior of international or German forces. Not only the “Hun Speech”, but also “Hun letters” impressed the mind of Germans. Many German soldiers were disgusted by the enormous bloodshed, and expressed their disgust in letters they sent home. These letters were widely exploited by the Socialists and their leader August Bebel, and also by the Liberals. On 19–20 November 1900, a lively debate in the Reichstag about China took place. Eugen Richter (1836–1906), a distinguished Liberal statesman, criticized both various aspects of the “Hun Speech” and the subsequent conduct of the German military: “In general, I mean: politics and religion shouldn’t be mixed together. Should it happen, not only politics but also religion will be spoiled... Undoubtedly, many Chinese have been captured; taking into account the limited fighting ability of Chinese troops it should be admitted; but so far we haven’t heard that Chinese prisoners had been anywhere taken into custody [...] Herr von Levetzow says: ‘I have experienced a war as well, and the soldiers may have behaved in a similar way, too.’ That happens. But in the previous wars, I believe, it didn’t happen that the supreme commander had said in advance: ‘Pardon will not be given.’” Of course, some people defended Wilhelm II’s speech and the actions of the German military. During the parliamentary debate, the Minister of War said that Wilhelm II’s conduct was “from the human point of view, nice”. Rudolf Zabel argued in his book that German soldiers in conquered cities weren’t encountering peaceful Chinese – truly peaceful Chinese had already fled out of fear of the “Boxers”. “Therefore, when a Boxer army retreats to such a city as Liangsianghsien and holds a new position there, then we may assume that the few ‘peaceful Chinese’ who remained in the city under such circumstances are to be considered to a certain degree accomplices of the Boxers. Even the Chinese know well: ‘Together captured, together hanged.’ So why did he stay there? [...] But the war generalizes.” Germany and the Boxer Uprising in China
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WampaLord posted:I'm not a huge history buff but didn't the Roman empire do a bunch of "debt jubilee" type stuff when they were in their decline and went "hey, all debt is cancelled, now go spend spend spend!" Almost every society did before industrialization and capitalism. Some even did it yearly. Some did it every few years. Some did it any time monarchs changed, etc. "Debt the first 5000 years" is a pretty decent book that covers it.
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pencilhands posted:Kirsten Mansel (23) is a liberal who wants to teach Biden a lesson because he didn't cancel student loans or protect abortion. 
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docbeard posted:The United States is also facing the election of a genocidal rapist fascist, but with typical American extravagance, they have two of them
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pencilhands posted:Kirsten Mansel (23) is a liberal who wants to teach Biden a lesson because he didn't cancel student loans or protect abortion. She is willing to accept a Trump presidency to stick it to Biden because she is angry. smart person
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