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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1778546199382880721?t=71cWUw2tbBhTr-X5uRkfag&s=19

... why would the White House mention something he didn't do

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Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

specifically expressing condolences for oj is very funny to me, great troll

Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


Fun Shoe

Unbeatable swag

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

America's #1 Progressive talk show
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1778394572822921302

https://twitter.com/SteveBachynski/status/1778414889972765047

i voted for dick cheney in 2020
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1778397519484993911

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

gradenko_2000 posted:

Clint Eastwood yelling at a cuck chair

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

comedyblissoption posted:

i voted for dick cheney in 2020
[url]https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1778397519484993911

Reminded me he was still alive

Which reminded me that it’s still possible for Carter to outlive Biden

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Brrrmph posted:

I can’t tell if people itt are progressive or righties anymore

American politics explainer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pDH66X3ClA

Automata 10 Pack
Jun 21, 2007

Ten games published by Automata, on one cassette

Tricky D posted:

Been seeing a lot of unsubstantiated rumors going and around and I wanted to clear the air: Joe Biden caused roe v wade to be struck down, is happy it happened and threw a party the same day. Any reports the contrary are without factual merit.

no community notes, it’s real

1glitch0
Sep 4, 2018

I DON'T GIVE A CRAP WHAT SHE BELIEVES THE HARRY POTTER BOOKS CHANGED MY LIFE #HUFFLEPUFF

Clip-On Fedora posted:

There is no point and there's nothing to understand, it's just stupid drivel.

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > C-SPAM > [Succ] There is no point and there's nothing to understand, it's just stupid drivel

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

PhilippAchtel posted:

KJU is NJR??

No, he is clearly INTJ.

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

"A great task awaits you: you are to revenge the grievous injustice that has been done. The Chinese have overturned the law of nations; they have mocked the sacredness of the envoy, the duties of hospitality in a way unheard of in world history. It is all the more outrageous that this crime has been committed by a nation that takes pride in its ancient culture. Show the old Prussian virtue. Present yourselves as Christians in the cheerful endurance of suffering. May honor and glory follow your banners and arms. Give the whole world an example of manliness and discipline.

Should you encounter the enemy, he will be defeated! No quarter will be given! Prisoners will not be taken! Whoever falls into your hands is forfeited. Just as a thousand years ago the Huns under their King Attila made a name for themselves, one that even today makes them seem mighty in history and legend, may the name German be affirmed by you in such a way in China that no Chinese will ever again dare to look cross-eyed at a German."

Johannes Prenzler, ed., Die Reden Kaiser Wilhelms II [The Speeches of Kaiser Wilhelm II], unofficial version of speech reprinted in Manfred Görtemaker, Deutschland im 19. Jahrhundert. Entwicklungslinien [Germany in the 19th Century. Paths in Development], Schriftenreihe der Bundeszentrale für politische Bildung, vol. 274, Opladen, 1996, p. 357, trans. Thomas Dunlap.

The inhabitants of Zhili cared little of such machinations of the foreigners; they were living under threat of foreign punitive expeditions. H. B. Morse states that between 12 December 1900 and April 1901, 46 expeditions took place, 35 of them solely German, 4 Italian, 1 British, 1 American, the rest mixed. Fedor von Rauch lists 61 punitive expeditions which took place at Waldersee’s command or were reported to him. Rauch doesn’t enumerate those operations which had been conducted prior to 29 September 1900. Accordingly to him, 40 of these expeditions were German, 8 Italian, 3 Austro-Hungarian, 2 Japanese, 1 British, 1 American, and 6 mixed. Susanne Kuß states that 76 expeditions took place in Zhili, 51 of them solely German. Moreover, the Germans were involved in 29 cases of fighting with the Boxers or Chinese soldiers.

Such punitive expeditions were facilitated by attitude of many Chinese commanders and officials. The most astute of Chinese statesmen, Marquess Li Hongzhang, had for a long time been trying to negotiate on China’s behalf. He tried to mitigate Wilhelm II’s wrath. In August 1900 he humbly asked Emperor Francis Joseph I for an intercession, but the aged Emperor refused to undertake any steps. On 1 October, Li re-assumed the duties of Viceroy of Zhili. At the same time, he was appointed China’s negotiator during the peace talks, together with Prince Qing. The attitude of Li Hongzhang towards foreign occupants of Zhili was rather compliant. He ordered Chinese garrisons to retreat just before arrival of foreign troops. What was more important for the poor inhabitants of Zhili, Chinese governmental troops turned against the“Boxers”. The exact number of Chinese victims of the suppression of the Yihetuan movement will remain unknown, but it is certain that tens of thousands of people lost their lives.

Only several punitive expeditions in Zhili will be summarized shortly. On 11 September 1900, both Hoepfner’s battalions of marine infantry, accompanied by Indian cavalry, surrounded and conquered a small city of Liangxiang held by Chinese troops and the “Boxers”. Accordingly to Susanne Kuß, all adult males were summarily executed, and the city was burned. Theodor von Winterhalder states that 800 Chinese were killed during the fighting and 150 “Boxers” were executed. Among the defenders were people who had taken part on siege of the legations in Beijing.183 On 16–17 September 1900, a coordinated punitive expedition of the allied forces took place to the west of Beijing. H. B. Morse claims that its target was a city of Sanjiadian, whereas Th. von Winterhalder states that the goal was a city of Badazhu. Both authors are describing the same expedition. Accordingly to Morse, three columns were supposed to surround the city, but the German one didn’t appear, and so the Boxers fled. Winterhalder states that the column in question, consisting of 1500 Germans, 100 Austro-Hungarians, and 170 Italians, arrived on time, but that the Americans attacked too early. Among more notable cities occupied by the Germans and other allied forces were Kalgan, an important city on the border with Inner Mongolia, or Baojingfu, the capital of Zhili.

In China as well as at abroad, there were many complaints on be- haviour of various armies, especially of the Germans. Already on 18 October an American newspapers “New York Nation” wrote: “It is hard to avoid the conclusion that the greatest single obstacle of peace is the intran- sigeant attitude of Germany [. . . ] It is to Germany that the primacy belongs in aggression and mischief-making.”191 But the Germans already had in American eyes a rather undeserved reputation of being unenlightened and aggressive.192 Indeed, Waldersee’s army had been suggested to be aggressive. Alfred von Waldersee fully shared his Emperor’s attitude towards China. On February 21, 1901, he wrote in a private letter: “Our Kaiser was the only one who wanted to tackle the Chinese properly: if one had followed him we would long have had peace.”

Both Germany and China had been represented at the First Hague Conference of 1899. Yet China did not ratify the 1899 “Convention with respect to the laws and customs of war on land” until 12 June 1907. Germany and many other great powers ratified this Convention on 4 September 1900, but their troops were behaving as if they had never heard about any regulations at all. As a matter of irony, Waldersee’s chief of staff General Schwarzhoff had been a technical expert of the German delegation at the First Hague Conference of 1899. As such, he had taken special care of the legal definition of combatants and non-combatants. But his participation in the conference seemingly had no impact on the behavior of international or German forces.

Not only the “Hun Speech”, but also “Hun letters” impressed the mind of Germans. Many German soldiers were disgusted by the enormous bloodshed, and expressed their disgust in letters they sent home. These letters were widely exploited by the Socialists and their leader August Bebel, and also by the Liberals. On 19–20 November 1900, a lively debate in the Reichstag about China took place. Eugen Richter (1836–1906), a distinguished Liberal statesman, criticized both various aspects of the “Hun Speech” and the subsequent conduct of the German military:

“In general, I mean: politics and religion shouldn’t be mixed together. Should it happen, not only politics but also religion will be spoiled... Undoubtedly, many Chinese have been captured; taking into account the limited fighting ability of Chinese troops it should be admitted; but so far we haven’t heard that Chinese prisoners had been anywhere taken into custody [...] Herr von Levetzow says: ‘I have experienced a war as well, and the soldiers may have behaved in a similar way, too.’ That happens. But in the previous wars, I believe, it didn’t happen that the supreme commander had said in advance: ‘Pardon will not be given.’”

Of course, some people defended Wilhelm II’s speech and the actions of the German military. During the parliamentary debate, the Minister of War said that Wilhelm II’s conduct was “from the human point of view, nice”. Rudolf Zabel argued in his book that German soldiers in conquered cities weren’t encountering peaceful Chinese – truly peaceful Chinese had already fled out of fear of the “Boxers”.

“Therefore, when a Boxer army retreats to such a city as Liangsianghsien and holds a new position there, then we may assume that the few ‘peaceful Chinese’ who remained in the city under such circumstances are to be considered to a certain degree accomplices of the Boxers. Even the Chinese know well: ‘Together captured, together hanged.’ So why did he stay there? [...] But the war generalizes.”

Germany and the Boxer Uprising in China

Hence why Germans were called "Huns" in WW1.

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Excelzior posted:

plucky little Biden just couldn't get anything done with a legislative trifecta

vote for him and he will DEFINITELY get it done under a gridlocked Congress

I like this excuse because it ignores that Biden has been one of the most powerful people on the planet since being sworn-in in 1973. He was Senator from then until 2009, then VP for eight years. Are we all forgetting that he has had tons of opportunity to do any of this stuff even prior to the Presidency?

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


docbeard posted:

There is certainly a difference between "Roe was struck down while Biden was president, however he did not directly cause it to happen aside from through inaction" and "Joe Biden deliberately caused Roe to be struck down and is happy that it happened and threw a party that day".

For example, to accurately describe what did happen, you would say "Joe Biden deliberately caused Roe to be struck down and is happy that it happened and threw a party that day".

I bet he had lots of his beloved pedophile ice cream at the party, knowing his supply of kids would be kept at steady rates for years to come.

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

mcmagic posted:

They wouldn't have done a full ground invasion and occupation of Afghanistan if 9/11 didn't happen. I don't believe that.

:)

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


You see, I need to make this clear. Joe Biden is a rapist and a pedophile, whose pastimes include genocide, and sticking his dick in the previously mentioned ice cream for pedophiles, Jeni's.

Sometimes he likes sunglasses too apparently.

Probably Magic
Oct 9, 2012

Looking cute, feeling cute.

Oh, another massacre is definitely about to happen now. (And yes, I know, the current massacres haven't stopped.)

Jen heir rick
Aug 4, 2004
when a woman says something's not funny, you better not laugh your ass off

VitalSigns posted:

How dare you, the German emperor only committed genocide in Africa, because unlike some Führers, the monarchy had respectability and decorum!

bring back respectable genocide!

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

PoontifexMacksimus posted:

Hence why Germans were called "Huns" in WW1.


HUN TO HUN

ATTILA (to Little Willie): "Speaking as one barbarian to another, I don't recommend the neighbourhood.
I found it a bit unhealthy myself."

(Attila's victorious progress across Gaul was finally checked on the plains of Châlons.)

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
lmao just grabbed groceries after getting back from vacation

the sticker shock is real

Jen heir rick
Aug 4, 2004
when a woman says something's not funny, you better not laugh your ass off

Just gonna put on some lo-fi beats to commit genocide by.

Rubellavator
Aug 16, 2007


i wrote RIP OJ in the group chat as a joke, the white house is doing it for real

chair lunch dinner
Apr 30, 2009



the idiot that made the wire called me a poo poo goblin or something and blocked me because I made fun of him for having a meltdown about these rude college students

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

A recent attack ad against progressive Squad member Rep. Summer Lee (D-Pa.) depicts her as a radical threat to Democrats’ agenda. As the ad pans over photos of pro-abortion rights protests, the Jan. 6 Capitol riot and former President Donald Trump, a narrator warns, “Our rights are under attack, our democracy at risk, and in this moment, Representative Summer Lee is opposing President Biden.” The spot concludes with a plug for Bhavini Patel, a Pittsburgh-area council member challenging Lee as a moderate alternative.

Ads like these, against progressive members of Congress like Lee, are standard fare in a Democratic primary. Except the donor behind these ads is Pennsylvania billionaire Jeffrey Yass, who is this cycle’s single largest donor to the Republican party and on the shortlist for Treasury Secretary in a second Trump White House.

Yass has lavished more than $1.8 million on the super PAC behind the ads, Moderate PAC, making him the PAC’s single largest donor by far. At the same time he is paying for ads invoking the specter of Jan. 6, in other words, he is closely tied to the man who instigated it.

“For me, it’s really the audacity,” Lee said in an interview. “They don’t support Biden. … Jeff Yass is supportive of an insurrectionist. For any candidate to use dollars coming from him to paint me as an extremist is really rich.”

Yass made his fortune as an international stock trader, and, ProPublica reported, by assiduously structuring his wealth to avoid high taxes. His trading firm, Susquehanna International Group, is a major investor in TikTok’s parent company, ByteDance.

Susquehanna was also the largest institutional investor in the shell company that took Trump’s social media company public, causing Trump’s net worth to skyrocket at a perilous moment for his personal finances. Yass was reportedly on the guest list for Trump’s high-dollar Palm Beach fundraiser that took place last week.

His support for Patel fits a larger pattern of Republican dollars sneaking their way into this year’s Democratic primaries. Earlier this year, progressives accused the American Israel Public Affairs Committee super PAC, which is nominally bipartisan, of laundering Republican billionaires’ money into Democratic primaries under the guise of supporting a moderate political agenda.

Members of the Squad, the high-profile group of Black and brown progressives who have not only led calls for a cease-fire in the war on Gaza, but also pressed Democrats to expand the social safety net and raise taxes on the wealthy, are among the group’s prime targets.

AIPAC spent roughly $4 million opposing Lee in her first election in 2022. And while they are sitting out her primary this year, having assessed her as too strong a candidate, Lee said Moderate PAC’s tactics are about the same.

“This is my second cycle dealing with disinformation and contorting the facts,” she said. Answering charges that she is insufficiently supportive of Biden, her campaign notes she has hosted several Biden cabinet members and Vice President Kamala Harris in her district, and appeared at party-led rallies for abortion rights. “They’re using dog whistles ― this idea that a Black progressive woman is vaguely too extreme to represent you in Congress.”

Moderate PAC launched in 2022 under Ty Strong, a former Booz Allen Hamilton analyst, who said the group would raise $20 million to protect moderate Democrats from progressive primary challengers. Yass, who gave $1 million in July, wound up being the group’s only donor in the 2022 midterms.

When the group ran its first ads against Lee earlier this year, Lee turned Yass’ apparent support into a line of attack on Patel: “Her entire campaign is backed by Republicans, yet she says I’m not a good enough Democrat,” Lee said in a recent debate.

At the time, Moderate PAC had not yet disclosed its donors. Strong took the opportunity to rebrand Moderate PAC not as Yass’ PAC but as a coalition of disgruntled Pittsburgh Democrats bent on ousting Lee.

New campaign finance disclosures filed Wednesday, however, revealed that Yass donated $800,000 to Moderate PAC, or roughly four out of every five dollars the group raised to fight in Lee’s primary, in late February.

The disclosure shatters several of Strong’s previous claims about Yass. In late March ― three weeks after Yass wrote a check ― Strong told The Washington Post that Yass was not behind the ads, instead citing two Pittsburgh developers, Todd Reidbord and Gregg Perelman, and the local chapter International Union of Operating Engineers.

Last week, Strong admitted to Politico that Yass had made a sizable donation. But he claimed he approached Yass only after raising money among Lee’s constituents, and said people in Lee’s district would ultimately donate just as much as Yass.

“He knew nothing about Summer,” Strong said. “And so it’s not Jeff Yass, it’s me and Pittsburgh who realized that this far-left member shouldn’t be representing a D-plus-eight district.”

In fact, the PAC raised only $233,944 from sources other than Yass ― not even half of the $586,843 it has spent so far in Lee’s primary. Many of the Democratic donors he name-checked in previous weeks gave Moderate PAC $5,000 or less; Perelman, the developer, does not appear to have donated at all.

Strong did not respond to a request for comment.

Patel, whose campaign cannot coordinate with Moderate PAC, initially seized on the idea that Moderate PAC was funded by local Democrats.

At a March 21 campaign event, Patel said it was “misinformation” to claim Yass was supporting her campaign.

“[The Moderate PAC] was actually funded by labor unions, interestingly,” she said. “Operating engineers gave to it, several other labor unions gave to it, there are local residents in this district who have given to that PAC to run the ads that they’re running. Jeffrey Yass has not given money to that, I’ve not taken money from Jeffrey Yass.”

In an interview this week, after Moderate PAC disclosed its donors, Patel said she agrees with Moderate PAC’s message that Lee is not sufficiently supportive of Biden. But she said she, like Lee, wishes Yass weren’t her supporter.

“I’m a lifelong Democrat,” she said. “Framing the conversation on anything else deflects from my ability to talk about my opponent’s record.”

Asked why she believes Yass is in her corner, she said she didn’t have an answer, and echoed what she said in that early April debate with Lee: “I denounce Donald Trump. I denounce Jeffery Yass.”

joepinetree
Apr 5, 2012

chair lunch dinner posted:

the idiot that made the wire called me a poo poo goblin or something and blocked me because I made fun of him for having a meltdown about these rude college students

Nothing makes liberals madder than pointing out that the wire is a fundamentally liberal tv show with lovely politics, and while good drama is not at all "realistic."

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/axios/status/1778549091737198633?t=jcpU70Rw03i9dERqjmrSmg&s=19

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



"Latine" sounds like a brand name for sparkling water.

Scarabrae
Oct 7, 2002


I don’t buy it

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
I'd give it about six months before they'll try to make "Filipine" a thing

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

why not latinae

isn't that the right form anyhow

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

that term would not be close enough to latrine

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

comedyblissoption posted:

that term would not be close enough to latrine

You changed it... to Latrine?

Clip-On Fedora
Feb 20, 2011


Stop

Just stop it

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

The calls to step down come from both the left and center—amplified by law professors, scholarly legal journals, and anti-Trump pundits—warning about the risks to the Supreme Court and the country if Justice Sonia Sotomayor isn’t replaced while there’s still a Democrat in the White House and a Senate in Democratic hands.

She’s only 69, young by today’s standards, but the memory is still fresh of the late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg lingering well into her eighties and then dying weeks before the 2016 election, opening the door for three Trump-appointed judges to complete the conservative super majority to overturn Roe.

Sotomayor now faces the same decision that RBG faced: Permit a Democratic president and a Democratic Senate to confirm a successor who will hold the seat for decades—or roll the dice. RBG rolled the dice, and we all lost.

For Sotomayor, the decision is even more stark than it was for RBG—precisely because she knows how RBG’s tragedy played out.

Sotomayor was diagnosed with juvenile diabetes when she was just 7 years old, and the Huffington Post earlier this year reported the justice requested that a medic accompany her on several recent trips. Several years ago, in 2018, Reuters reported that paramedics were called to Sotomayor’s home to revive her when her blood sugar fell.

These are challenges for someone with lifelong diabetes, but they are not disqualifying.

To publicly pressure a justice to retire is unseemly, but it’s not new. The progressive group Demand Justice sent a black and neon-green billboard truck driving around the Supreme Court building, declaring “Breyer, retire. It’s time for a Black woman Supreme Court justice.”

Justice Stephen Breyer stepped aside at 83 in 2023 after former President Donald Trump left office, smoothing the way for President Joe Biden to fulfill his promise to nominate the first Black woman to the Court, Ketanji Brown Jackson.

In reporting this piece, I heard a lot of wishful thinking. If Sotomayor were to step down, so the story goes, it would solve a lot of Biden’s problems. He could appoint Vice President Kamala Harris to fill her seat on the Supreme Court and name a running mate that voters would happily see as his heir apparent (hint: Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer).

Absent that turn of events, I place my trust in Sotomayor to be honest with herself and with the country about the state of her illness, which she has lived with for more than 60 years and knows better than anyone the toll it continues to take.

Zack Ford, senior manager of press and editorial communications at Alliance for Justice (AFJ), a liberal advocacy group, told The Daily Beast that he’s seen an uptick in calls for Sotomayor to resign, which “speaks to how focused people are on the Court and how politicized it is.”

AFJ does not take a position on individual retirements, and instead “stands by efforts to de-politicize the court through reforms like term limits, so it’s not left to chance who might be president if a justice has to leave for unplanned reasons.”

The Court is intentionally opaque about much of what it does, so there are no regular health updates on justices with lifetime appointments. SCOTUS recently put out its first ethical guidelines, which Ford notes “are weaker than what’s in place in lower courts.”

At a contentious panel early this year at the University of California Berkeley, which focused on the imbalance of the six to three conservative majority, Sotomayor confessed, “I live in frustration. Every loss truly traumatizes me in my stomach and in my heart. But I have to get up the next morning and keep on fighting.” She said she’s “tired” and “working harder than I ever had” because of the major cases the Court had taken on, a growing emergency calendar, and briefs from outside groups.

She said the growing workload had encroached on the justices’ summer break, opening the door to speculation that she might want to duck out early rather than face years more under the thumb of an emboldened conservative majority.

Simmering rumors burst open Saturday on CNN’s Smerconish, when law professor Paul Campos from the University of Colorado Boulder said the chance of Trump winning the presidency and/or Republicans winning control of the Senate “is so high that it just simply isn’t worth it to take that kind of a risk… It would really be in the public’s best interest for her (Sotomayor) to do a very statesmanlike thing and step down from the Court rather than running this risk, which would be a completely catastrophic development.”

The decision is intensely personal, which for Sotomayor means being honest with herself about the course of her condition and how it might affect life expectancy. She has been on the Court for 15 years. As the Court’s first and only Latina, she doesn’t want to cut short her unique perspective to take one for the team.

Asked about liberals calling on Sotomayor to retire, White House spokesman Andrew Bates told NBC News: “President Biden believes that decisions to retire from the Supreme Court should be made by the justices themselves and no one else.” While not joining calls for her to resign, Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI) told NBC, “Certainly I think if Justice Ginsburg had it to do over again, she might have rethought her confidence in her own health.”

It’s a mirror image of what Biden faces in deciding to run again—despite 60 percent of Democrats saying that because of his age they want someone else. Once it became clear Biden wasn’t going to step aside, the negative voices quieted, just as they will do with Sotomayor once the window closes and it’s too close to the November election.

Her dissents are the cutting edge of what progressives want, even as they are the loudest voices urging her to make way for a successor that Biden can name. RBG made a bet that she could last until Hillary Clinton was in the White House. Dems are making a bet that Biden can win.

A Sotomayor resignation would give him more options, but it would also reveal how worried Democrats are over how much is on the line in this election. There should be better ways to fix the Court.

Raccooon
Dec 5, 2009

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

why not latinae

isn't that the right form anyhow

Does Latins not work?

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

chair lunch dinner posted:

the idiot that made the wire called me a poo poo goblin or something and blocked me because I made fun of him for having a meltdown about these rude college students

lmao

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009


No

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

Raccooon posted:

Does Latins not work?

it's not linguistically correct but neither is trying to force that latinx or latine poo poo anyhow so why not

or just stick with the collective term accepting that gendered languages are going to have those sorts of issues unless you rewrite the entire damned grammar system

FormaldehydeSon
Oct 1, 2011

Urectum

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Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

Maybe the entire issue of collapsing a diverse range of country/cultural backgrounds into a single term is itself the problem that can be solved simply by not trying to do that

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