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Blackbelt Bobman posted:Finally, I was able to update my game and finish the side quest. I booted up my PS5 on my lunch break and beat the G-Bike high score and huzzah! It finally acknowledged that I did it and moved on to the Queens Blood match! I started the match, put down a few cards and then or just pull out the ethernet cable on it when you get home i guess
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kliras posted:make sure the savegame wasn't corrupted on the console side if it happened at home. you can probably just download the cloud save if it happened I saved right before the QB match, hopefully it didn’t get messed up. I ended up having to finish my work day at the office so I won’t know until tonight. Worst case, I have a save from right before G-Bike that was definitely uploaded to the cloud. 
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:Yeah there's fighting out of necessity, and then there's just violence for the sake of violence and Cloud crosses that line quite a few times. He would have killed Elena and the other Turks in the temple no problem if the party didn't intervene. You really think the group wouldn't be too upset about the Turk thing though. The Turks murdered most of sector 7 in cold blood in order to kidnap Aerith, including Biggs, Wedge, and Jessie. You think at least Barret and Tifa would be at least someone okay with Cloud finishing off the ones who tried to murder all their friends. I get he was being merciless about it, but still
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Rich Uncle Chet posted:You really think the group wouldn't be too upset about the Turk thing though. The Turks murdered most of sector 7 in cold blood in order to kidnap Aerith, including Biggs, Wedge, and Jessie. You think at least Barret and Tifa would be at least someone okay with Cloud finishing off the ones who tried to murder all their friends. I get he was being merciless about it, but still I think they would be upset actually. Pretty much everybody in the cast would balk at killing even the Turks when they weren't in a position to fight back, and Aerith would definitely not have accepted it Barret and Tifa have good reason to hate the Turks and Rude in particular, but they aren't about to become murderers themselves. The fact that Cloud was in a state where he'd have actually done it if he wasn't stopped is what makes his whole deal notable amongst the crew and JRPG protags in general. Thundarr fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Apr 11, 2024 |
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Rich Uncle Chet posted:You really think the group wouldn't be too upset about the Turk thing though. The Turks murdered most of sector 7 in cold blood in order to kidnap Aerith, including Biggs, Wedge, and Jessie. You think at least Barret and Tifa would be at least someone okay with Cloud finishing off the ones who tried to murder all their friends. I get he was being merciless about it, but still True, but at that point everyone is more or less aware that Cloud is slowly loosing it, so letting him indulge in gleeful murder probably isn't a good thing in the long run
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Rich Uncle Chet posted:You really think the group wouldn't be too upset about the Turk thing though. The Turks murdered most of sector 7 in cold blood in order to kidnap Aerith, including Biggs, Wedge, and Jessie. You think at least Barret and Tifa would be at least someone okay with Cloud finishing off the ones who tried to murder all their friends. I get he was being merciless about it, but still To be fair, a lot of Sector 7 survived in this version as opposed to in the original, due to them mounting an evacuation. Corneo calls out the attempted slaughter as something of a failure. That said, Biggs and Jessie died at the hands of Shinra soldiers whom Cloud and co then killed.
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Apr 11, 2024 19:44
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Rich Uncle Chet posted:You really think the group wouldn't be too upset about the Turk thing though. The Turks murdered most of sector 7 in cold blood in order to kidnap Aerith, including Biggs, Wedge, and Jessie. You think at least Barret and Tifa would be at least someone okay with Cloud finishing off the ones who tried to murder all their friends. I get he was being merciless about it, but still Tifa and Barrett have struggled with guilt over the casualties from their battles so it makes sense they’re not comfortable with their friend executing someone who’s injured and can’t do anything.
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Do I have to max Star these cactus thing with Aerith to unlock the next one? Can’t just beat the lowest one? Also I think the weakest running chore in each region is the snapshot one, doesn’t really send you anywhere that looks any particularly better than any other place and not a running story connecting each region
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The snapshots are pretty dumb. Many of the spots aren't even very photogenic or representative of the region.
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it would have been better if the ugly photo post thing disappeared when taking the picture
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GateOfD posted:Do I have to max Star these cactus thing with Aerith to unlock the next one? Can’t just beat the lowest one? You don't need the highest score but you can only do the first two Protorelic challenges on your first visit to Corel Desert. The other two unlock much later.
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Corel region is weird in that it only lets you unlock parts of it at a time, while the other regions can be completed more or less as soon as you reach them.
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I have finally become the Ultimate Party Animal. Oh what’s that? It unlocked an even harder opponent in 3-D Brawler? Let me just try this and 
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Aerith is streaming the game https://twitch.tv/thestrangerebel
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:I have finally become the Ultimate Party Animal. Oh what’s that? It unlocked an even harder opponent in 3-D Brawler? Let me just try this and I despise the loathsome UPA, however it's not the hardest 3D Brawler fight. The hardest one was the only thing that tilted me in the game.
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For the life of me I cannot get through the UPA coliseum fight on Hard mode. I can get past the Gigantaurs every few attempts and then it's basically free until I get to the 4th round but that's just a disaster. I just get walloped and destroyed basically immediately.
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doos posted:I despise the loathsome UPA, however it's not the hardest 3D Brawler fight. The hardest one was the only thing that tilted me in the game. I beat the UPA quest. We are talking about the same opponent. It’s extremely difficult to distinguish his attacks and he only has to hit you like three times before you lose. Real sicko poo poo
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If nothing else, the brawl mini game is easy to cheese with the pause button.
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Thundarr posted:If nothing else, the brawl mini game is easy to cheese with the pause button. I still struggle to distinguish the final opponent’s moves, even if I pause. They look so similar it’s really, really hard to tell.
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:I beat the UPA quest. We are talking about the same opponent. It’s extremely difficult to distinguish his attacks and he only has to hit you like three times before you lose. Real sicko poo poo I had no issues distinguishing his hits, but what drove me insane, is that it would sometimes block instead of dodge. Had a few runs where I was one hit away from hitting, dodging his combo moves only for the last one to become a block. And he gets so much meter from a block that it was a rip. It takes forever for him to allow you to hit him. Finally got him in a run where he didn't land a single hit. Now that goddamn worm in the brutal challenge round 8 can gently caress off. ruined 2 runs so far. I know how to dodge him but the reaper fucks me up and rip swallowed.
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:I still struggle to distinguish the final opponent’s moves, even if I pause. They look so similar it’s really, really hard to tell. The difference between Left-up and Left-left is whether his elbow is bent or extended. Right-up and Right-right the difference is whether his hand is obscured by his head or not. When going for an uppercut, he'll tilt his head down slightly. Just use the pause trick and take all the time you need to figure out which pose he's in. He takes forever to let you get a hit in at first, but once you get through the initial onslaught he'll start to become vulnerable more frequently. Also his super combos have fixed patterns (every enemy does) and the first one he uses in the fight will always be the same one ( I think R-d, R-u, R-r, R-r). You should still use pausing though to be safe. ZiegeDame fucked around with this message at 14:31 on Apr 12, 2024 |
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UPA in general is a whirlwind tour of content that should have stopped three or four iterations ago but just kept going, characterised primarily by having you repeat achievements you've probably already accomplished and have already had the characteristic "thank god I'm finished with that" emotion about, but the brawler in particular represents a nadir because at this point if you're going for this level of completion you've probably (although admittedly not necessarily for UPA's quest) already cleared out increasingly demanding opponents and unlocked the secret one and actually gotten a trophy for beating it, but what if, and bear with me here while I blow your mind, you did it again? e: on reflection i'm not actually certain that you can get the secret brawler before finishing UPA but i can't remember the actual conditions. however, I still contend the brawler UPA is a solid contender for the worst of his requirements, competing with Send In The Clowns in the colosseum. And of course the literally broken g-bike but that was a glitch. Also, this means the brawler still has the same problem, where you beat what you think is the hardest one and get a trophy for it, and now you have to do another one. The only one of his tasks that really has any business existing is his unique Queen's Blood challenge which, like, is actually interesting, and centred around a unique card, which you then get to keep (I will additionally grant a technical exception to his chocobo race, which is in all respects also completely superfluous but gave us a certain musical reprise so I'm contractually obligated to approve it). Everything else is just Even More Repetition. All this in service of... the Shinra Middle Manager, who for some reason is now getting a fanservice arc? More than the actual content of this quest I'm baffled as to why this guy in particular is getting this treatment, before he returns to service keeping the office functional while the atrocities roll out. Fedule fucked around with this message at 15:21 on Apr 12, 2024 |
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It took me a long time to memorize the rushes, even pausing, and lost multiple attempts on blocks only. It was really frustrating. Reward's worth it though.
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Wait you can get the secret brawler before the UPA? That doesn't sound right
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Fedule posted:All this in service of... the Shinra Middle Manager, who for some reason is now getting a fanservice arc? More than the actual content of this quest I'm baffled as to why this guy in particular is getting this treatment, before he returns to service keeping the office functional while the atrocities roll out. because it’s funny
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Wait you can get the secret brawler before the UPA? That doesn't sound right Now that I carefully review my records it does show that I did the secret brawler 30 minutes after finishing all sidequests so... maybe not? It's entirely possible that I have confused that with some other related minigame although hell if I know what in retrospect
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Fedule posted:All this in service of... the Shinra Middle Manager, who for some reason is now getting a fanservice arc? More than the actual content of this quest I'm baffled as to why this guy in particular is getting this treatment, before he returns to service keeping the office functional while the atrocities roll out. Shinra Middle Manager is going to save the day in part 3, trust me.
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Fedule posted:All this in service of... the Shinra Middle Manager, who for some reason is now getting a fanservice arc? More than the actual content of this quest I'm baffled as to why this guy in particular is getting this treatment, before he returns to service keeping the office functional while the atrocities roll out. That's the joke. This generic looking corporate suit who pissed his pants riding the subway in the first game is in this one a beloved savant who's good at everything and gets carried around in the sky by magical creatures. Up until then you've been doing side quests for all these quirkly colorful characters like Johnny, Butch and his gang, Kyrie and Gilgamesh and your final, most difficult, all encompassing final side quest is against Lenny from the Simpsons.
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Upon even further review of my records, I seem to have completed all sidequests and completed the secret brawler before completing chapter 12. It was my understanding that you can only do the UPA quest in Chapter 13 and only after completing all other sidequests and all other Gold Saucer minigames. So hell if I know what order any of that poo poo unlocks in anymore.
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Fedule posted:Upon even further review of my records, I seem to have completed all sidequests and completed the secret brawler before completing chapter 12. It was my understanding that you can only do the UPA quest in Chapter 13 and only after completing all other sidequests and all other Gold Saucer minigames. So hell if I know what order any of that poo poo unlocks in anymore. you can do the UPA quest in chapter 12 after talking to Dio
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Hm. So when Cloud is first introduced to Dio, they get into a bombastic punching match complete with a lot of posing. Does that mean Cloud is a Jojo?
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ImpAtom posted:Hm. So when Cloud is first introduced to Dio, they get into a bombastic punching match complete with a lot of posing. Dio is a Part 2 Jojo, Cloud is a part 4 Jojo.
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ImpAtom posted:Hm. So when Cloud is first introduced to Dio, they get into a bombastic punching match complete with a lot of posing. Cloud's Stand is just summoning other party members to do synergy attacks with him.
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Augus posted:you can do the UPA quest in chapter 12 after talking to Dio Yep, I'm coming back to do UPA soon and I've not triggered ch. 13 yet.
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I didn’t get a trophy for completing all the side quests after I completed the UPA one, which was definitely the final one. lol this game Edit: I just checked and I do have the trophy, so nevermind! I must not have noticed the pop up Blackbelt Bobman fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Apr 12, 2024 |
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I completed UPA yesterday so I can definitively say this is the order of stuff: - Initial games (bike, space shooter, chocobo, battle) - Once you complete bike you can do QB - Do all the above and he challenges you to 3D brawler - Beat that and you unlock the hidden boss
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I dodged 7 hits in a row on the final 3D brawler and he just never opens for a hit. I don't usually care to mod games, but the minigames in this all need a rework.
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