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Jerusalem posted:I really hope the next episode of Discovery opens with "Okay cool, with this bug they planted on you that our hyper advanced security system immediately detected, we can plant false leads to capture those two." Probably not. But either way. I laughed out loud at the end of episode reveal.
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Mx. posted:i want lower decks Possibly in like August-september'ish if production takes about as long as usual!
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mllaneza posted:Probably not. But either way. I laughed out loud at the end of episode reveal. I look forward to the explanation of how they managed to follow them at all. 
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Have they said anything about Prodigy? Except for it leaking of a French streaming service.
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TuxedoOrca posted:Have they said anything about Prodigy? Except for it leaking of a French streaming service. Not a leak, the French broadcaster simply released it because their contract said they could. The latest re: an English release is "we'll announce it when we can".
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MikeJF posted:Y'know, I'm pretty sure the original intention for Black Alert was 'we're about to do something classified not everyone on the ship is authorised to know all about, unauthorised personnel remove yourself from necessary areas', but because it was the thing they said before the Spore Drive the writers kept it as the thing they say before Spore Drive even now the original meaning doesn't apply. (hell, given Discovery's production issues, there might not be anyone left from back then) Yeah, I always got the impression the original draft was for a lab-of-the-week Eureka-like show on a ship full of mad science, with Stamets just being Angry Project Chief of the Week, then rewrites missed the point of all that, and they then Flandarized a whole season out of just the Spore Drive instead.
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Apollodorus posted:I liked jerkass Stamets Didn't mean to infer he was bad, he really isn't, just that I reckon there's a draft somewhere where his role was more minor or one-off and next week you'd have had a different Jerkass Scientist with his pet Super-Destructo-Phaser project that destroys planets or something.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Yeah, I always got the impression the original draft was for a lab-of-the-week Eureka-like show on a ship full of mad science, with Stamets just being Angry Project Chief of the Week, then rewrites missed the point of all that, and they then Flandarized a whole season out of just the Spore Drive instead. Hmm, nah the spore drive leading to the mirror universe is a core part of the S1 story arc - it's Lorca's secret plan and motivation. It's played very differently to how Fuller would have done it, but I think the real divergence is when happens when Discovery crosses over. e: stamens being a core part of the spore drive story. I think what was supposed to be made more of was the lengths he want to and rules he broke, including gene splicing himself with a space bug, to get there.
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The original plan with discovery was that it was going to be a lab-of-the-season, not lab-of-the-week. Discovery would be starfleet's weird experiment ship and each season's arc would involve some new ridiculous thing it can do or bizarre abomination of science. Fuller's season one would've started with the war kicking off, then we get introduced to the spore drive, the spore drive malfunctions relatively early on and we get flung into alternate possibilities and Burnham faces a world where she didn't mutiny, sliding doors style. The war would be the motivation of the spore experiments but the show wouldn't dive into it as much until season 2, when it would be the main arc. Discovery would have chameleon abilities and pretend to be a klingon ship and go undercover in the empire. (It's one reason why the ship is laid out roughly similar to a D7) MikeJF fucked around with this message at 14:46 on Apr 12, 2024 |
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Mx. posted:i want lower decks https://www.startrek.com/en-us/news/lower-decks-conclude-fifth-final-season https://twitter.com/StarTrekOnPPlus/status/1778861026811031837  Strange New Worlds was renewed for Season 4. Lower Decks is cancelled. I imagine it has to do with the viability of the streaming model and Paramount+'s financial situation, but Mike McMahan had been sounding the alarm for a while.
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Five seasons feels like the end date for a lot of shows and based on declining quality after that, usually for the best. Feels like we've only had two seasons of LDS.
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Ahh Paramount CBS. "Let's pour tons of money into a mass-appeal revival nobody likes of a popular show from 30 years ago (Frasier), while we kill the more niche shows its fans are actually watching."
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Good news! They're not going to scrub the show from existance! for now
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Feel like this is one where I should buy the dvds E: or make them if there aren't any
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gently caress gently caress gently caress fuckity gently caress. Wonder where they are on the pipeline, I hope they have a chance to do the ending knowing it's definitely the ending. (Admittedly, even if not, they've known for a while there was a good chance this was the ending, so there'll probably be some finality, but if they have a chance to do the ending after it was certain then they can give us a flashforward to Captain Boimler on the USS Modesto or something.) The Last Call posted:Five seasons feels like the end date for a lot of shows and based on declining quality after that, usually for the best. Well we've had 40 episodes. Two season of old trek.
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Glad SNW is getting at least two more seasons, but god loving dammit for Lower Decks.  Phy posted:Feel like this is one where I should buy the dvds
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MikeJF posted:gently caress gently caress gently caress fuckity gently caress. It had enough for two or three seasons until the characters fully promote out of the lower decks.
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The Last Call posted:It had enough for two or three seasons until the characters fully promote out of the lower decks. McMahan said in an interview a while back he had rough plans through to a season 7.
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MikeJF posted:McMahan said in an interview a while back he had plans through to a season 7. Makes sense since that's when I figured it would end anyway, because all of the 24th century shows (TNG, DS9, VOY) ran for 7 seasons.
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He also said he kinda hoped they hit a season 8 because he had no idea what he'd do and would probably end up doing something batshit insane off-the-wall.
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Lower Decks is going to end with Riker and Troi in the holodeck watching a recreation of a critical decision Boimler makes, with Troi later remarking "Why did we watch that Will, it was last week. You could have just reached out to talk to him about why he did that."
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The Last Call posted:Five seasons feels like the end date for a lot of shows and based on declining quality after that, usually for the best. A season these days is half a normal season at best. Still glad we got as many as we did. Would've loved to see what they could do with a full seasons worth of episodes each time, but same for SNW too.
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This stupid goddamn era of streaming is going to go down in history as a giant graveyard of missed opportunities and shows killed before their time just to marginally improve some figures on a spreadsheet before the next shareholder meeting.
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Man that hits hard. But hey, 5 seasons is more than TAS got. 🫠 Glad that SNW is confirmed for a 4th season, I doubt it will go for more after that with the way things are going.
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Bummed about Lower Decks cancellation. They found their footing faster than the average Trek show, but it really felt like they had a lot of gas left in the tank. The bluray of season 4 is coming out next week. Now I'm wondering if there's going to be any hint of this in the commentary tracks...
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GATOS Y VATOS posted:Man that hits hard. But hey, 5 seasons is more than TAS got. 🫠 Yeah, maybe I’m a cynic, but I’m legit surprised SNW got renewed for a season four. I think that’ll be the last one, though.
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With SNW positioned as flagship and so popular, if they cancel SNW that means they're cancelling NuTrek as a whole. So yeah, might happen.
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Eh, not really, for all the guff he gets Kurtzman apparently did have LDS and PRO's backs and fought all the bullshit as hard as he could.
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MikeJF posted:With SNW positioned as flagship and so popular, if they cancel SNW that means they're cancelling NuTrek as a whole. So yeah, might happen.
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MikeJF posted:Eh, not really, for all the guff he gets Kurtzman apparently did have LDS and PRO's backs and fought all the bullshit as hard as he could. Kurtzman has become an irrational internet boogeyman just like Kathleen Kennedy
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