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spiritual bypass posted:this is all lame, nothings gonna happen Probably just another step on the tit-for-tat ladder unless Iran really goes balls deep here or gets lucky.
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Apr 14, 2024 00:06
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drake no : tit for tat drake yes : rear end 2 rear end
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Scarabrae posted:drake no : tit for tat The rear end 2 rear end ladder
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Given how widely dispersed these targets seem to be, I wonder if Iran's intent here is less about demonstrating a capability to overrun an IADS and actually do damage on the ground and more about demonstrating to the Israelis that they can run down their stocks of interceptors for pennies on the dollar
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Scarabrae posted:drake no : tit for tat drake just launched a missile of his own tbh. Rip kdot
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https://twitter.com/detresfa_/status/1779171231922843826 us doing a good (bad) job of guarding prosperity
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looks like iran did send some of the good missiles and they did indeed get through
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:I've been wanting to post about this, but there was a moment, from the 60's to the late 70's, when it seemed like the UK was going to graciously transition into a Social Democracy, perhaps even a Socialist state, while quitting Empire. The forces of reaction that supported Thatcher had help from the City, though, and the Americans, so there was always going to be a rollback, unless the English people were willing to fight to stop them. For a bunch of reasons I don't quite understand, the British public in the 60's and 70's assumed that things could only get better, and none of what they had could be taken away from them, so there was not much of a fight. This can be applied in greater or lesser degrees to all of the west really. People everywhere got suckered into thinking things like “Oh we don’t need unions anymore. No way will workers rights ever get rolled back!”. Thatcher was very much part of a larger international reactionary movement, whose goal was to make sure that the West would be unable to ever again repeat the “mistake” of making concessions to labor in order to survive the great depression/win WW2.
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The Voice of Labor posted:1: godel's incompleteness theorems were 1931 Oh sorry I could have been clearer, I meant specifically the philosophy of natural language. #1 is of course very significant and I think work like this on logic is easily the most important discipline within modern western philosophy. #2 is famous but I don't think it says much interesting from a philosophical perspective, although it has been important in the field of engineering. #3 I agree with but I don't think really said much new, you can find similar stuff in the classical Greeks. Important because of its position in the dialogue and clearer logical analysis.
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galagazombie posted:This can be applied in greater or lesser degrees to all of the west really. People everywhere got suckered into thinking things like “Oh we don’t need unions anymore. No way will workers rights ever get rolled back!”. Thatcher was very much part of a larger international reactionary movement, whose goal was to make sure that the West would be unable to ever again repeat the “mistake” of making concessions to labor in order to survive the great depression/win WW2. Yeah, that seems to have really hosed us. It happened in Scandinavia in the 2000's, and again, you would think they would have more fight in them.
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Tankbuster posted:As general prosperity rises people tend to think themselves as part of the petit bourgeoisie. The material reality becomes secondary to cultural grievances. Upward mobility is a curse on the people. Instead of trying to climb the ranks people should be more concerned with destroying them
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Yeah which was the big liberal hope with china. Just the same thing as the USSR where government planning would reach a hard limit (probably easier because china didn't have the benefit of being a petrostate) and the large, well educated populace with all their basic needs met would crave western brands and eventually overthrow the CPC. Wonder how the struggle between infiltrating chinese liberals and party orthodoxy went over those years.
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Apr 14, 2024 09:05
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https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1779311877446660340?t=tpIndi8trt5ALbiEzUze6w&s=19 Folks, is he wrong
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Tankbuster posted:Yeah which was the big liberal hope with china. Just the same thing as the USSR where government planning would reach a hard limit (probably easier because china didn't have the benefit of being a petrostate) and the large, well educated populace with all their basic needs met would crave western brands and eventually overthrow the CPC. Wonder how the struggle between infiltrating chinese liberals and party orthodoxy went over those years. america was too racist to pull off the tricks used on the working classes of europe in china. spooks spoke german and russian and could passably infiltrate and appeal to those societies but none of the china experts even speak the language
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atelier morgan posted:america was too racist to pull off the tricks used on the working classes of europe in china. spooks spoke german and russian and could passably infiltrate and appeal to those societies but none of the china experts even speak the language its hard when anyone on the mainland can simply look over the strait or the SCS and see VOTEZ did gently caress-all to the plebs
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1779311877446660340?t=tpIndi8trt5ALbiEzUze6w&s=19 There’s a lot of beauty in Americans killing each other rather than other people. When he’s right he’s right.
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1779311877446660340?t=tpIndi8trt5ALbiEzUze6w&s=19 I mean if we want to get down to the brass tacks, Gettysburg was just Lee slamming his head into a brick wall for three days before giving up
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1779311877446660340?t=tpIndi8trt5ALbiEzUze6w&s=19 Look, I don’t like that this is the case but it’s true, trump is my president
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FuzzySlippers posted:I needed a non sicko source on dprk history so I just started listening to this. Thanks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNf3wM0feb8
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Raskolnikov38 posted:I mean if we want to get down to the brass tacks, Gettysburg was just Lee slamming his head into a brick wall for three days before giving up The Army of the Potomac finally got a general smart enough to let Lee make mistakes first
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North Korea: poo poo, but not that poo poo Also her argument that East Germans defected at a higher rated than North Koreans do: Can you even compare the two? What about defectors to China? Should you trust the numbers the Chinese put out? Not to factor in levels of military opression, starvation, terrain, climate, etc. What distances do you have to cross to get to a safe haven where you won't be ratted out?
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1779311877446660340?t=tpIndi8trt5ALbiEzUze6w&s=19 as a pennsylvanian he now has my vote
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Apr 14, 2024 14:27
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at a Trump rally: FREDERICKSBURG!!! FREDERICKSBURG!!! FREDERICKSBURG!!!
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1779311877446660340?t=tpIndi8trt5ALbiEzUze6w&s=19 Tag yourself… - guy with the extremely manicured beard, meth smile - lady with eyes closed smiling the entire time listening like church, church smile - guy in front of her, confused about being there, not smiling - kid with BIDEN SUCKS hoodie that got up there because he wore that, not wearing maga hat - zillenials in bottom right also confused about being there - GI Joe on top left, definitely no smile - The sloppy looking blue jacket drunk guy, smile undetermined - Trump being about to say “I go to Gettysburg” before the clip ends but does not actually ever go there If we’re being honest I’m the sloppy blue jacket guy, he really ties the room together and pretty awesome he got through screening for standing in background like that
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busalover posted:North Korea: poo poo, but not that poo poo are you retarded
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busalover posted:North Korea: poo poo, but not that poo poo See, your issue is that you could have stopped here lol
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The Oldest Man posted:hearing that world war 3 is underway now and the US is losing it Thread title
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good. they learned from Eastern Europe
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eastern europe was also making jeans. They didn't have the levi's brand and were therefore worthless. Same with Coca Cola.
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Tankbuster posted:eastern europe was also making jeans. They didn't have the levi's brand and were therefore worthless. Same with Coca Cola. Imagine throwing away any sort of worker's rights/social safety net for the worst loving brand of jeans ever.
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Tankbuster posted:eastern europe was also making jeans. They didn't have the levi's brand and were therefore worthless. Same with Coca Cola. It kills me to have discovered that East German jeans were apparently much better made and used better textiles.
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A lot of old timey stuff were made in higher quality. Now people just want jeans with holes and pre-wore out.
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eastern euro communism raised some of the dumbest people in the world, american stupidity can't hold a candle
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Doktor Avalanche posted:eastern euro communism raised some of the dumbest people in the world, american stupidity can't hold a candle Serious loving rubes too, thinking they'd get all the benefits of communism under a neoliberal economic system. Nowhere in the west did we have the social benefits they had, did they really think they'd somehow keep all that and get more? It's insane on its face and I can't believe people in the SSRs bought such an obvious line.
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It's 1981 and I'm *extremely* angry Herr Honecker won't let me buy uncomfortable Levi jeans!!!!
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mycomancy posted:Serious loving rubes too, thinking they'd get all the benefits of communism under a neoliberal economic system. Nowhere in the west did we have the social benefits they had, did they really think they'd somehow keep all that and get more? It's insane on its face and I can't believe people in the SSRs bought such an obvious line. Granted, back in 1989-1991, they were sold a line they would get all this fancy new stuff and keep their jobs and benefits as well. You would be surprised about the power of "grass is greener" on the other side. Certain bloc states like Romania, and a lesser extent, Poland had also screwed things up bad enough that arguably people had legitimate criticisms to make as far as the quality of life. The key point of failure was the Kremlin though, if the USSR had held things together, and rebalanced trade with some of its bloc allies, it could have been worked though but Gorbachev and his buddies really did want the system to die. Gorbachev probably wanted a softer landing but most of his economic advisors were maniacs and tried to "force" the issue. Basically, it was both the carrot and the stick, but the stick was coming down from their own governments.
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BadOptics posted:Imagine throwing away any sort of worker's rights/social safety net for the worst loving brand of jeans ever. It's little things like this that have made me be ok w the human experiment failing, but a part of me worries it'll keep reaching new wtf heights despite how dumb we are
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:It kills me to have discovered that East German jeans were apparently much better made and used better textiles. Coca Cola only had market dominance in India when I was growing up because they were the first to purchase local indian brands. Like well into the late 90s 85% of coca cola's share was one indian drink they had to keep selling.
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