Tom Tucker posted:

So we have:

Voodoo - posted "4"
AFQM - posted "100000"
Cube - posted "Probably like a 7, but a 10 on the D1's where I get voted out or shot."
shark - presumably wouldn't have to respond but did, posted "personally i'd be at about a 7 i'd say"
FoS - did not directly cite a number, but did post a numeral 1 in response "i hate day 1 so much that I've run multiple games experimenting with how to make it suck less lol "
JoseV - posted "6.9"
JoseF - posted "69420"

So in every event each person who got in, in direct response to the question, posted a response which included a number. This was either an actual number (in all but FoS's case) and in FoS's case, the response did have a number in it.

But none of the people who were "assigned" numbers got in.

shark to Dominoes: "i am impressed that you made two posts without actually giving a number i'm assigning you an 8"
shark to Tom Tucker: "your number has already been assigned, citizen. You Have No Choice"

To be fair several people responded with numerals but were not included: yuming, hambeet, Tokes, zzyzx, TPC, etc.

I find it suspicious that shark kept insisting on people responding in numerical form, and in the end, only people who responded with a numeral in their response were included, the people "assigned" numbers weren't. This makes me suspect shark is in fact lying about the criteria to get in, and did not "veto" me, required a numeral as part of the role, and used the survey to give scum cover to get into the minigame to get bonuses.

If it's a town role then why all the insistence on replying in numerical value? And if there is no need to actually reply with a numeral, then it's an awful coincidence that everyone who got into the minigame did so.

Not sure about this. Thoughts? Seems awfully convenient.

Tom Tucker posted:

Also I like this point - sitting on a joke vote is the kind of thing scum would do day 1 if one of the vote leaders is scum and they don't want to be seen either pushing town hard or voting for their scumbuddy too early.

PhantomMuzzles posted:

Okay caught up! Thoughts:

-tbh I'm super flattered that Token Female and Dominoes said I did scumhunting in the Periodic game because I thought I was doing really good in that one but then getting vigged by a fellow town made me feel super guilty and like self conscious and I was like "oh no was I just Yes Anding Humalong the whole time and not actually helping"

PhantomMuzzles posted:

Oh! And I forgot to say in my big post but Tokes, me "townclearing" Dominoes was meant as like a tongue in cheek joke. Sorry for the confusion

Token Female posted:

I'm catching up now, but might not be able to complete that until later tonight, but I'll post some thoughts along the way

I don't give insincere compliments. You played well and hunted scum in that game. The vig in that game shot you over a person who had an anti-town result from a cop. I think we can just generously conclude that the vig might not have been closely following the game. Don't take it personally.

That's a shame because it's really the only place where you've made a stand on anything up to this point. I'll keep reading.

Monathin posted:

Who do you think is scum in those vote leaders, aside from yours truly? It doesn't seem to me like we have a heavy vote lead anywhere, so I find this point a bit of a stretch - Stalin has lead the votes with 4, but one of those is a jokephase vote who hasn't switch (Opop), one is an anonymous doublevote, and two are from players who aren't checking in at all.

I could maybe see it if you think they're trying to protect Dominoes, who Pussy has given a very light cover of.

Voodoofly posted:

Also I don’t think anyone said it but no reason to hide it:

Sharks thingy made a seven(?) person masonry where we are playing a sub game of mafia and there is a reward or something to the team that wins

Also it sounds like there is either a second masonry mafia game or a sub-sub mafia game or something as well with some of the same players. I’m in the first not the second

Figure it’s best if everyone knows

Dominoes posted:

Players I quoted: What do you think of the alignments of Tom Tucker, Monathin, Token Female, lih and zzyzx?

You have all posted a reasonable amount in this thread, but nothing of substance. I don't think this is a scum tell because it's day one, but the players I'm asking you to look at have all made substantive posts (cases, defenses, alignment-related content) that could be used to ascertain alignment, or at least comment on. I recognize that I currently fit in y'all's category as well, so I owe you that too...

yuming posted:

Hey man we all need to recognized our biases so we can begin to expand our frame.

b-minus1 posted:

This post is scummy af

Wins showed up, claimed to read every post the thread (lol) and ended up basically including all of the people with the most suspicion in their scum list. It feels fake. Wins quoted one post for every person on their list except PQ who is on the list for seemingly no reason. It reads like a scum trying to find the right balance of townies and scum in their scum team list.

I don’t like the interaction with voodoo either. But for now I am going ##vote wins

Tom Tucker posted:

Monathin this is the second time you've poked me to comment on other vote leaders. I already did so earlier, and beyond that it's not my job to comment on every single vote leader and the cases on them. Suggesting I do so once, when I already had, raised my eyebrow, but doing so again now, when I've been one of the key voices pushing for your execution, is right into scummy misdirection territory, especially as it happens right when I was theorizing about shark again, which probably made the iron seem hot to distract me.

Dans Macabre posted:

I'm not in any of the sub games or the masonry and I couldn't be happier.

fool of sound posted:

##vote afqm

AFQM’s posting in and about the subgame is starting to make me suspect gambit.

Tea Party Crasher posted:

If there was a something awful Mafia year book I would be voted "most likely to annoy serious players"

Tea Party Crasher posted:

That's true. Also scum can just communicate in scum chat I'm realizing lol

hambeet posted:

lmao wtf

Token Female posted:

I think this post is really weird. I think normally when you do a lurker callout or a few-takes call out usually it's done to have people looking at the people that have been cased, not the people who are making cases.

Sandwolf posted:

Yuming I have desperately been asking folks for a catch-up of the last few pages and no one is giving me one. So I am operating off of where I was yesterday, which is pings off of PMuzz, Mona, cube

Dans Macabre posted:

I'm not in any of the sub games or the masonry and I couldn't be happier.

Jose Valasquez posted:

This user is mod confirmed scum

zzyzx posted:

Jose Valasquez posted:

Ok I've got like 20 minutes while my wife has our son at the store, who should I look at

Token Female posted:

Hey voodoo,

Now that you've backed off PMuzz after focusing on them heavily, who do you think is scum now?

PhantomMuzzles posted:

Idk like maybe it's just me being a dumb baby but I don't think about things like momentum and perception and qualifying that "yes of course I'll vote to avoid a no exe" unless I'm scum. As Town I just get the info and then vote who I think feels scummy (or trust other people's vibes). But vote momentum specifically feels like a scum thought

PhantomMuzzles posted:

What masonry?

yuming posted:

##vote Dans

What masonry Dans?

sharkmafia posted:

you have only interacted me in this game before this by suggesting my avatar looks like a constipated guy (which is still absolute nonsense)

if you're doing this by 'process of elimination' then wouldnt it be useful to post any of the opinions that led to that 'elimination'? if that's your justification you must have them, yes?

PhantomMuzzles posted:

Idk like maybe it's just me being a dumb baby but I don't think about things like momentum and perception and qualifying that "yes of course I'll vote to avoid a no exe" unless I'm scum. As Town I just get the info and then vote who I think feels scummy (or trust other people's vibes). But vote momentum specifically feels like a scum thought

PhantomMuzzles posted:

I don't like to vote early when we have long days I like chatting for a while. I'm still talking though about who I would vote, just not voting and changing my mind a bunch

PhantomMuzzles posted:

Oh Monathin shouldve been on my list too that's also shortlist

I guess I don't think it'd lead to turbo, I just think momentum sort of makes people sit back more and just sort of jump on stuff and I'd rather keep talking, so that's why I like to wait to vote