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Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014


im the complete lack of missile wreckage and unharmed vegetation

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punishedkissinger
Sep 20, 2017


is it just me or is this very conspicuously NOT showing a functional airbase? that plane doesnt even take off or get up to speed before it cuts.

maxwellhill
Jan 5, 2022
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Weka posted:

Well that gets them to around the Iranian border which puts western Iran within comfortable cruise missile range, Tehran at a stretch. Another option is refueling by tanker over northern Iraq, but I doubt they want to put planes into Iranian airspace.

More likely though is a drone attack from Iraqi Kurdistan.

i thought the whole point of planes is that they go far

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

Chillgamesh posted:

im the complete lack of missile wreckage and unharmed vegetation

The primitive Persian mind doesn't know to put explosives into missiles.

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSEIoHJmSok

From now on, Iran has pledged to strike Israel directly for every strike against Iran, including in Lebanon and Syria.

Long article from a quality mil blogger here https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/iran-breaches-anglo-zionist-defenses

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

https://twitter.com/ytirawi/status/1779624098248700011

Inter-Nazi-Nal Solidarity

Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
✔️✔️✔️✔️

blue yellow swasitka, symbol of racking up all the Ls

supersnowman
Oct 3, 2012

punishedkissinger posted:

is it just me or is this very conspicuously NOT showing a functional airbase? that plane doesnt even take off or get up to speed before it cuts.

The plane could be taxiing from/to a runway.

Cassian of Imola
Feb 9, 2011
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there is no reason that the big hole or the taxiing plane would be faked/coverups. if israel needs a photo of a crater in a desert, they have a million of them ready to go without digging one out. if they wanted to show 3 seconds of an F35 taking off, they have many functional airports and undoubtedly footage from before yesterday

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Cassian of Imola posted:

there is no reason that the big hole or the taxiing plane would be faked/coverups. if israel needs a photo of a crater in a desert, they have a million of them ready to go without digging one out. if they wanted to show 3 seconds of an F35 taking off, they have many functional airports and undoubtedly footage from before yesterday

What you are describing is a cover up.

maxwellhill posted:

i thought the whole point of planes is that they go far

Turns out the middle east is quite big, flying from one end to the other is very far.

Cassian of Imola
Feb 9, 2011
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'unharmed vegetation' lmao

even if you couldn't clearly see broken blades of grass in the photo it's loving stupid to seize on these details. buhhhh I've uh geoconfirmed the unharmed grass to the mojave. there are no craters anywhere in israel, they had to get hollywood to shoot em. it's called osint maybe you've heard of it

Cassian of Imola
Feb 9, 2011
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Weka posted:

What you are describing is a cover up.

they could be lying, probably are lying, about the extent of damage to the airbase. but maybe you could explain how that photo is evidence that they are lying. please try to be less embarrassing

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


The Voice of Labor posted:

lol found out today that my mom is getting her news from al jazeera to the chagrin of my zionist sister. good job mom

I'm glad for your mom, and I think your sister should maybe stop.

SMERSH Mouth
Jun 25, 2005


this nazi dude is named grabby

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Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
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Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

Cassian of Imola posted:

'unharmed vegetation' lmao

even if you couldn't clearly see broken blades of grass in the photo it's loving stupid to seize on these details. buhhhh I've uh geoconfirmed the unharmed grass to the mojave. there are no craters anywhere in israel, they had to get hollywood to shoot em. it's called osint maybe you've heard of it

i think missiles make fire when they explode

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002

Cassian of Imola posted:

they could be lying, probably are lying, about the extent of damage to the airbase. but maybe you could explain how that photo is evidence that they are lying. please try to be less embarrassing

Guess we know the target audience now

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

Nail Rat posted:

F35 combat range is about 650 miles

lmao that's incredibly low for a modern fighter that large

Cassian of Imola
Feb 9, 2011
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:

Guess we know the target audience now

go ahead and explain why they'd fake a crater

Chillgamesh posted:

i think missiles make fire when they explode

what are you expecting to see exactly? this is a fresh bomb crater in a field in Germany, for reference:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48746557

this is a crater in Gaza with uncharred palm trees nearby:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/israeli-airstrikes-gaza-city-leave-giant-crater-n136596

Radical 90s Wizard
Aug 5, 2008

~SS-18 burning bright,
Bathe me in your cleansing light~

Cassian of Imola posted:

they could be lying, probably are lying, about the extent of damage to the airbase. but maybe you could explain how that photo is evidence that they are lying. please try to be less embarrassing

It's because they lie about literally everything, op

e] that blast crater in Gaza is a funny choice because it looks completely different from the hole at the airfield

Radical 90s Wizard has issued a correction as of 02:00 on Apr 15, 2024

Cassian of Imola
Feb 9, 2011
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Radical 90s Wizard posted:

It's because they lie about literally everything, op

I agree with you. I think the photo is of a real crater, and it's being used to lie about damage to the airbase. There is no reason to make a fake crater as the op said, and it's embarrassing to read that poo poo

FormaldehydeSon
Oct 1, 2011

Cassian of Imola posted:

go ahead and explain why they'd fake a crater

what are you expecting to see exactly? this is a fresh bomb crater in a field in Germany, for reference:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48746557

this is a crater in Gaza with uncharred palm trees nearby:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/israeli-airstrikes-gaza-city-leave-giant-crater-n136596

Neither of those craters have a neat little pile of dirt right next to them though

Cassian of Imola posted:

I agree with you. I think the photo is of a real crater, and it's being used to lie about damage to the airbase. There is no reason to make a fake crater as the op said, and it's embarrassing to read that poo poo

a random crater in the middle of nowhere means that an Iranian missile/drone didn't hit its mark, as opposed to any real craters that might have actual debris nearby. After 6 months of this poo poo it's the safe assumption that literally everything that comes out of "israel" is 100% a lie, there's really no reason at all to believe that it's a real crater made by a real missile.

FormaldehydeSon has issued a correction as of 02:05 on Apr 15, 2024

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSEIoHJmSok

From now on, Iran has pledged to strike Israel directly for every strike against Iran, including in Lebanon and Syria.

Long article from a quality mil blogger here https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/iran-breaches-anglo-zionist-defenses

explicitly locking in a pledge is pretty serious. they can't really back down easily so it seems like they're daring israel to escalate.

RC Cola
Aug 1, 2011

Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
Idk maybe this time Israel is trustworthy, who can say

Cassian of Imola
Feb 9, 2011
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FormaldehydeSon posted:

random crater in the middle of nowhere means that an Iranian missile/drone didn't hit its mark, as opposed to any real craters that might have actual debris nearby

no, it means that any one of a million bombs dropped on israel or gaza didn't strike the airfield. they could go to one of their own firing ranges and take a video of a crater

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

Cassian of Imola posted:

I agree with you. I think the photo is of a real crater, and it's being used to lie about damage to the airbase. There is no reason to make a fake crater as the op said, and it's embarrassing to read that poo poo

i think the hole is fake actually

Cassian of Imola posted:

no, it means that any one of a million bombs dropped on israel or gaza didn't the airfield. they could go to one of their own firing ranges and take a video of a crater

this would mean the hole is fake

Such an insane thing to :actually: about

Orbis Tertius
Feb 13, 2007

Radical 90s Wizard posted:

It's because they lie about literally everything, op

it’s very funny to me how their laissez-faire attitude to veracity, especially in video on social media, is so consistent and egregious it’s become fodder for tiktok memes.

Orbis Tertius has issued a correction as of 03:08 on Apr 15, 2024

Cassian of Imola
Feb 9, 2011
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Chillgamesh posted:

Such an insane thing to :actually: about

yeah it does make me feel insane when I read a bunch of posters defend this brown moses wannabe bullshit

israel's lying about the airfield, and it makes everyone calling them liars look dumb and credulous when you draw stupid conclusions about 3 seconds of video of a hole in the desert

speng31b
May 8, 2010

Cassian of Imola posted:

yeah it does make me feel insane when I read a bunch of posters defend this brown moses wannabe bullshit

israel's lying about the airfield and it makes you look dumb and credulous when you draw stupid conclusions about 3 seconds of video of a hole in the desert

calm down

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013
israelis posting booster sections as evidence of destroyed iranian missiles lol

MadSparkle
Aug 7, 2012

Can Bernie count on you to add to our chest's mad sparkle? Can you spare a little change for an old buccaneer?

RealityWarCriminal posted:

that's terrible. have you considered an adblocker?

lol

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

Cassian of Imola posted:

yeah it does make me feel insane when I read a bunch of posters defend this brown moses wannabe bullshit

israel's lying about the airfield, and it makes everyone calling them liars look dumb and credulous when you draw stupid conclusions about 3 seconds of video of a hole in the desert

I'm genuinely confused and disturbed by the way your brain works

maxwellhill
Jan 5, 2022
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Chillgamesh posted:

I'm genuinely confused and disturbed by the way your brain works

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

Weka posted:

Well that gets them to around the Iranian border which puts western Iran within comfortable cruise missile range, Tehran at a stretch. Another option is refueling by tanker over northern Iraq, but I doubt they want to put planes into Iranian airspace.

More likely though is a drone attack from Iraqi Kurdistan.

i vaguely remember a story about putin's trip from moscow to abu dhabi that was escorted by su-35s (?) without refueling over ~4000 kms. idk if that counts as "combat range" but is the f-35 really only 1000 kms?

Jon Carbuncle
Sep 21, 2002


Soiled Meat

iggy pop nooooooooo!!!!!!!!

MadSparkle
Aug 7, 2012

Can Bernie count on you to add to our chest's mad sparkle? Can you spare a little change for an old buccaneer?
I had a dream last night that I was standing in the ruins of Gaza and there were a lot of displaced people, but I was with a group and cooking, and making a bunch of great food for them. Nobody exploded or anything, it was a nice dream, I woke up hopeful :unsmith:

Cassian of Imola
Feb 9, 2011
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Chillgamesh posted:

I'm genuinely confused and disturbed by the way your brain works

in the same video with the crater/hole, they show construction vehicles rebuilding a runway. what would be the point of digging out a fake crater in the middle of nowhere and then showing proof of direct damage to the airbase? why is the dirt pile evidence of faking a crater instead of evidence of any kind of construction happening anywhere nearby, like repairing a runway?

literally making a mountain out of a molehill

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Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

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Do it for justice

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jetz0r
May 10, 2003

Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing.



Chillgamesh posted:

i think missiles make fire when they explode

honestly, not a lot of burning. heat, sure. the explosives are mostly generating N2 + heat during the detonation, with a tiny bit of combustion. high explosives aren't movie explosions with huge fireballs, they're a hot flash and a pressure wave of nitrogen. they're not very good at burning things, there's a reason incendiary bombs and devices exist and are used for different war crimes than high explosives.

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OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013

crepeface posted:

i vaguely remember a story about putin's trip from moscow to abu dhabi that was escorted by su-35s (?) without refueling over ~4000 kms. idk if that counts as "combat range" but is the f-35 really only 1000 kms?

The f-35 is a small fighter jet like the f-16 so i dont think its range is unusual

teh su-35 is a bigger jet more comparable to the f-15 and even then the russian jets have best in class internal fuel capacity because russias fuckin big so they need it

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