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GokuGoesSSj69 posted:Because they come from a downward slope that makes them harder to hit or even see from a distance before they're right on top of you with their instant death flamethrower. Stop being bad or go to a lower difficulty. I've done these missions with people below level 20 plenty of times. I suggest shooting at the enemies.
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If being able to see things from a longer sight line doesn't make sense to you I don't know what I can say to help.
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If you're having trouble with the regular defense I would suggest changing up your strategems and shooting the enemies, or dropping down a level of difficulty.
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Fishstick posted:If you're having trouble with the regular defense I would suggest changing up your strategems and shooting the enemies, or dropping down a level of difficulty. You got it! Regulars I die once when we're at like 80% then we win, evac I never die at all and it's a cakewalk.
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GokuGoesSSj69 posted:You got it! Regulars I die once when we're at like 80% then we win, evac I never die at all and it's a cakewalk. edit: without 3 people drawing aggro away from the extract area, I mean. Truly sticking it out in the most democratic of manners in the entirely unfortified compound with point blank tank/hulk drops.
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mine daily lmao Minefields do have some decent potential if you drop them right in the middle of a crowded bug nest that hasn't been alerted yet. The silly bugs will all move to attack the mine-thrower pod, and wind up surrounded by mines. Mine detonations can even destroy bug holes, possibly???? although they still have to be stepped on or shot Hwurmp fucked around with this message at 12:15 on Apr 15, 2024 |
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Apr 15, 2024 12:01
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Sestze posted:shame there's no defend missions up at the moment, I'd love to see some recorded gameplay of you on a 7+ with a PUG doing scientist extraction. I know I've been responding like a dick but honestly me and my friend did one on 8 with a level 6 and 12 the other day. The level 6 took both the stalwart and medium machine gun and we just laughed at their choices. It was easy. My friend thought they were very difficult too until he found out they weren't and he's pretty good at this game, maybe better than I am.
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GokuGoesSSj69 posted:I know I've been responding like a dick but honestly me and my friend did one on 8 with a level 6 and 12 the other day. The level 6 took both the stalwart and medium machine gun and we just laughed at their choices. It was easy. My friend thought they were very difficult too until he found out they weren't and he's pretty good at this game, maybe better than I am.
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Sestze posted:oh I absolutely believe you that the individual single success you experienced trumps the median experience everyone else has had where the map floods with brick shithouse enemies that instantly kill you or ragdoll you. Lol bring a more appropriate loadout then. This is why I don't play games with goons, you're almost all bad but manage to foster an insular community that accepts that bad as the meta.
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Higher difficulty missions are fun except for that one mission type. But sadly you have to finish the pack to get the goods. Kind of. I’ve just done a few solo 4’s or whatever to get the requirement and jump to other planets and play higher there
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GokuGoesSSj69 posted:Lol bring a more appropriate loadout then. This is why I don't play games with goons, you're almost all bad but manage to foster an insular community that accepts that bad as the meta. cool
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GokuGoesSSj69 posted:Lol bring a more appropriate loadout then. This is why I don't play games with goons, you're almost all bad but manage to foster an insular community that accepts that bad as the meta. You’re a treasonous dog
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GokuGoesSSj69 posted:Lol bring a more appropriate loadout then. This is why I don't play games with goons, you're almost all bad but manage to foster an insular community that accepts that bad as the meta. Didn't you just say you carried a guy who brought the stalwart and mg? What could goons be bringing that is significantly worse than that???
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Darox posted:Didn't you just say you carried a guy who brought the stalwart and mg? What could goons be bringing that is significantly worse than that??? Quasar cannon 
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GokuGoesSSj69 posted:Lol bring a more appropriate loadout then. This is why I don't play games with goons, you're almost all bad but manage to foster an insular community that accepts that bad as the meta.
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Strong Sauce posted:played with this loadout and switched between ac turret, gatling turret and orbital laser as my last strategem. (edit: also used the submachine pistol rather than the dagger due to the spinup time) thats strange that you were having difficulties with hordes, thats where this loadout excels for me. arc has endless uptime and as long as you prioritize targets and get set up with clear sight lines, you should be able to hold out indefinitely against anything lighter than chargers, tho i do get swarmed by the occasional jumping bugs which is what the dagger is for dealing with its true that grenade launcher would be better at clearing groups, but it will run out of ammo quickly, and the eruptor has a surprisingly large aoe and does similar work as a grenade launcher for stuff thats outside of arc range. Stun grenades can also be used to give yourself some more breathing room i do use eagle napalms religiously on bug breaches. That does help a ton with thinning sudden hordes. I also have the arc upgrade that lets it jump to an additional target, but i was using this loadout before that upgrade and still doing fine it can be an awkward loadout since nearly all your weapons require proper positioning to not have them backfire. If you get ambushed or caught in a chaotic scramble with your teammates running around in arc range, then ya that will not end well
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They had no idea what they were doing, many time in my experience across several mmos and fps games goons think they do but they're wrong.quote:alright, i'll up the ante to "i think you suck at the game as well as at posting." Nice edit coward.
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Personally I'm really excited for the reveal of this super build that lets you easily clear D9 scientist extracts, I bet it's totally unique and definitely not a factory-standard AC loadout.A LOVELY LAD posted:Quasar cannon
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GokuGoesSSj69 posted:They had no idea what they were doing, many time in my experience across several mmos and fps games goons think they do but they're wrong.
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I hate all the guns that don't let you aim them in third person and still don't understand why that's even a goddamn mechanic. And it would at most be mildly frustrating if there was a way to just have those guns go first person, but no, you can either toggle all guns as first person or all guns as third, and if you use those guns you're basically forced to use your guns that work fine in third person in first person and it loving sucks. Such a weird design decision.
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GokuGoesSSj69 posted:Hulks should be easily killed, they're two shots to the eye with an autocannon or amr. There's two different kinds of tanks. The shredder can be easily taken out with grenades or an auto cannon. Heavy tanks are a little tougher but don't really move so are prime targets for the eagle rocket pods that suck at everything but taking out tanks, fabricators and turrets. The normal defend is way more nuts, I feel. On the extract civilians most of us make it to the pelican, not so much on the default type, although that's not hard to actually rack up the kills to finish the mission either. This is against bots. Yes its all easy when you 1v1 them The mission doesn't let you since it's the only one where bots use combined arms. It's bullshit mission since unless you come full tryhard with very specific loadout, only then it's doable. We're all not level whatever with all the specific stuff unlocked.
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GokuGoesSSj69 posted:Because they come from a downward slope that makes them harder to hit or even see from a distance before they're right on top of you with their instant death flamethrower. Stop being bad or go to a lower difficulty. I've done these missions with people below level 20 plenty of times. I suggest shooting at the enemies. Come from a downward slope? This is the exterminate mission that starts you ontop of a hill doesnt it?
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GlyphGryph posted:I hate all the guns that don't let you aim them in third person and still don't understand why that's even a goddamn mechanic. And it would at most be mildly frustrating if there was a way to just have those guns go first person, but no, you can either toggle all guns as first person or all guns as third, and if you use those guns you're basically forced to use your guns that work fine in third person in first person and it loving sucks.
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GlyphGryph posted:I hate all the guns that don't let you aim them in third person and still don't understand why that's even a goddamn mechanic. And it would at most be mildly frustrating if there was a way to just have those guns go first person, but no, you can either toggle all guns as first person or all guns as third, and if you use those guns you're basically forced to use your guns that work fine in third person in first person and it loving sucks. The weird part is so many of the first-person-scope-only guns have wonky or broken scopes! Why does it take so long for the erupter to scope in? Why is the AMR sight STILL misaligned? Why is the aim mode switch still so wonky where it only remembers your preference sometimes? etc. Then there's the fun bugs when you do "too much" during first person aim until the camera straight up says "nah, I'm outtie": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS8QV4iNGXc
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The AMR I kind of get because it's a sniper rifle and there's video game precedent for sniper rifles to not have crosshairs. The HMG not having one is extremely strange though I agree
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GlyphGryph posted:I hate all the guns that don't let you aim them in third person and still don't understand why that's even a goddamn mechanic. And it would at most be mildly frustrating if there was a way to just have those guns go first person, but no, you can either toggle all guns as first person or all guns as third, and if you use those guns you're basically forced to use your guns that work fine in third person in first person and it loving sucks.   It is still a pain in the rear end how the game doesn't remember between sessions, or even between guns. If you bring an AMR or HMG it will always start out with over-the-shoulder aim. If you toggle it to ADS and later die or pick up a different gun, it'll go back to shoulder aim again.
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Darox posted:What could goons be bringing that is significantly worse than that??? This isn’t what you are talking about but after someone took aim and executed me “for the lulz” at extract then it maybe it wouldn’t hurt for everyone to diversify their squads with other people. Mic’d Conversations can sound like you are talking to Comic Book Guy and doing that all day vs just Affirmative / Negative / Emote can get draining.
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Given you have to unlock every difficulty level one by one for public matchmaking, a low level pubbie that appears in a high difficulty match probably knows what they are doing.
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This is a weird complaint, but as much as I love the Scorcher (it really is amazing) I just can't handle the constant clicking with it  .
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GokuGoesSSj69 posted:They had no idea what they were doing, many time in my experience across several mmos and fps games goons think they do but they're wrong. Take a breath, you’re too old to be mad about games, especially co-op ones. If you don’t like playing with goons, cool, I don’t either for the most part. But live and let live and poo poo, it’s not worth being lovely over.
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Fangz posted:Given you have to unlock every difficulty level one by one for public matchmaking, a low level pubbie that appears in a high difficulty match probably knows what they are doing. you can bring your friends to higher difficulty levels
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Fangz posted:Given you have to unlock every difficulty level one by one for public matchmaking, a low level pubbie that appears in a high difficulty match probably knows what they are doing. Your difficulty doesn’t show up when it’s a friends game you can join on the map. I posted a pic of a lvl 11 guy that joined our Helldive. My map icon showed up to them as green after someone rage quit the geological survey so they just clicked on it. They didn’t know but they were willing to listen and we made it out. Unique circumstance but in a game this big there are probably some people that got dragged into higher difficulties accidentally.
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I do bot7 scientist missions without cheesing it (3 out, 1 in), so I'm confused by the vitriol? Quasars made it a lot easier, just have people shooting down dropships, EMS mortars to pin what pops out, and have people actively running around hitting the buttons as soon as they pop. The mission sucks, but it's doable with randos.
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Darox posted:There is a setting in options that makes first/third person aiming weapon specific, but it's still dumb that every time you pick up a new AMR or whatever you have to toggle it to fps mode. There's no good reason for the AMR and heavy machine gun to not have regular third person crosshairs. it's really satisfying to hip fire the AMR and delete a trash robot though
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Basic Chunnel posted:If you’re on Steam, Microsoft removed their discrete status in Steam Input, so if you want to use them as anything other than the face buttons, you have to load an old firmware version onto the controller, from before Microsoft killed the functionality Haha loving why
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Ravendas posted:I do bot7 scientist missions without cheesing it (3 out, 1 in), so I'm confused by the vitriol? It doesn't help that bot enemy groupings aren't as obvious as bug groupings. For bugs you either get bile spewers or you don't and things are significantly harder/easier based on that. With bots for example you can get melee focused missions with lots of jetpack guys/berserkers or jetpacks can be totally absent, but the nastiest one is when you get increased hulk/devastator spawns. It's certainly a lot more dangerous than tank-heavy missons.
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Played a game on 8 where three gunship towers spawned near each other. Looked like I was the only one to bring an appropriate weapon, so I sat on top of a hill and shot down all the gunships with a laser cannon with the intention of clearing the way for the rest of the team. Nah, they died repeatedly to spawns of devastators and quit. Oh well. The last fellow on the team thought the laser cannon worked pretty good though, so maybe there's one more person out there bringing a more appropriate weapon than yet another quasar Seriously there's too many of these things and people keep running into trouble with devastators. Killing dropships is spectacular but I don't think it's as useful as people believe, and there's better ways to kill hulks too?
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Another thing that is tough about the scientist evac on high difficulties is they tease you with there being a ton of samples around the map, but lol, just lol if you want to have anyone go for em I've seen it work exactly twice (one of those was one of the times where someone cheeses it by running in and doing it with smoke while everyone else just makes noise around the map)
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