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Lottery of Babylon posted:AITA for separating my dad from his loved ones over a cancer scare? Hahahaha oh my god I did not see that twist coming
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Sex Farm posted:The dude comes off as a dick but he shouldn't be shamed for not being aroused by someone anymore? i think, given the breadth of what we know about him from his posting, that not only should we shame him but that there should exist a government institution that can shame him more effectively into being a better person
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# ? Apr 15, 2024 18:00 |
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Pantaloon Pontiff posted:In what's posted (I didn't track the story down so there may be something different in comments on the original) there's no mention of her wanting 'several thousand dollars for a solo European vacation' or for him to pay anything more than he's already paid. She's just moving the date on a plane ticket back, which AFAIK doesn't is usually just a token fee for rescheduling, not a new ticket cost (if this is actually a 'thousands of dollars' change then never mind my original take). Also my read of "left her stranded in a foreign country without financial help" is that he canceled the existing ticket when she talked about changing the plan, not just that he refused to pay for a new ticket. Buying a ticket for a week or so out is going to be much more expensive than buying a ticket months in advance, and in my experience airlines will expect you to pay the difference when you try to reschedule. That difference still may not amount to thousands of dollars, but it's also unclear how OP's ex planned on paying her own way in Italy without OP footing the bill for her. Pantaloon Pontiff posted:It's his responsibility because he got her over there in the first place with a promise that he'd pay for the return trip. If he just said 'take it or leave it' on the original ticket then I'd have no problem, but what he wrote implies to me that he said 'oh, you thought of a different plan? fine I'm canceling your way home entirely' which is him backing out of a promise. I'd agree if that was the case but it seems like a stretch to read it into the OP. At a minimum there's nothing to suggest that he canceled the ticket before he told her he wasn't going to pay for a different return trip, or that she tried to begrudgingly agree to the original return flight only for him to cancel it anyhow.
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# ? Apr 15, 2024 18:03 |
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It's also not clear that he made any effort to look into changing the ticket though
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# ? Apr 15, 2024 18:04 |
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house of the dad posted:Any attempt to influence another person's behavior is control and must be avoided at all costs. Agreed. In this essay, I will attempt to show why forums moderation is fundamentally immoral
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# ? Apr 15, 2024 18:07 |
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Update on the ticket story:quote:Update: Thank you to all the people who responded, especially the early ones who gave some outside verification of me probably not being the rear end in a top hat. I don't feel comfortable saying I'm completely blameless here because you're only getting one side of the story and I need to take responsibility for my part in this whole thing such as it is. But I guess I never realized how good my gf was at making me feel like unreasonable poo poo was normal and rational and that I was the crazy one. No surprises to anyone except Pantaloon Pontiff, who is presumably still trying to figure out how she got on the plane after this controlling bastard stole her ticket and imprisoned her in italy
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# ? Apr 15, 2024 18:12 |
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lmao @ PP great hill there to die on champ
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# ? Apr 15, 2024 18:14 |
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Jack-Off Lantern posted:Kitchen Sinks all have overflows in Europe. Joke is on you, I have a kitchen sink without either!
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# ? Apr 15, 2024 18:15 |
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Lottery of Babylon posted:Update on the ticket story: He made her leave the apartment and now she's exposed to the elements and could be eaten by a bear. He's a monster!!!
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# ? Apr 15, 2024 18:16 |
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Lottery of Babylon posted:Update on the ticket story: Well, she didn't expect him to pay for the hotel, she just forgot about lodging altogether!
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# ? Apr 15, 2024 18:18 |
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Two years with a guy who's caring enough to plan and pay for a two week holiday to italy, but being willing to throw it away based off one night meeting a random guy. hot dang
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# ? Apr 15, 2024 18:19 |
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mystes posted:It's also not clear that he made any effort to look into changing the ticket though Why should he? I'm not sure he owes her any effort in changing the ticket. She can do that as the ticketholder, and she sure as poo poo can pay the fees. It's not controlling to not pay (financially or with his time) to get laughed at by her and the rando italian man she's decided to stay and gently caress.
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# ? Apr 15, 2024 18:19 |
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waffleman posted:Why should he? I'm not sure he owes her any effort in changing the ticket. She can do that as the ticketholder, and she sure as poo poo can pay the fees. I think you could make an argument that in a slightly different situation where, ignoring the update, if she wasn't trying to cheat on him but just decided to break up with him and didn't feel comfortable flying with him, it would be polite to try to change the seat or something rather than saying "you're either sitting with me or you're stuck here and you can pay your own way back"? In this situation, based on the update, the girlfriend is clearly the rear end in a top hat, but just based on the original post, the meaning of "I wouldn’t be paying for her new return ticket" was ambiguous and could have meant that he was just cancelling her ticket because he wasn't going to pay for her return trip at all, not just that he wouldn't pay for the costs of changing it. mystes fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Apr 15, 2024 |
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Ominous Jazz posted:i think, given the breadth of what we know about him from his posting, that not only should we shame him but that there should exist a government institution that can shame him more effectively into being a better person This place could also just be an extremely hot orbital body that he could get sent to at high velocity
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# ? Apr 15, 2024 18:24 |
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Lottery of Babylon posted:Update on the ticket story: It's "hey we're on a hiatus while I'm im Europe mmmkay" girl all over again. Who are these people who think their SOs are going to be cool with "hey gonna unilaterally try out a bit of strange seeya later WHY ARE YOU BEING SO CONTROLLING!"? Is this some bizarre tiktok trend?
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# ? Apr 15, 2024 18:25 |
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It's weird because if she was just like "I just read about this cool tourist site I want to check out so I want to take another couple weeks while I'm here, and if you can't come, could you just change my flight so I can come back separately later (and I'll pay for the difference)?" it would be an rear end in a top hat move to refuse, but it's like she went out of her way to make it sound like she intended to cheat even before she actually explicitly told him that
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Tired of women disrespecting me and my knowledge of their anatomy
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SMEGMA_MAIL posted:Tired of women disrespecting me and my knowledge of their anatomy
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# ? Apr 15, 2024 18:33 |
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mystes posted:the meaning of "I wouldn’t be paying for her new return ticket" was ambiguous and could have meant that he was just cancelling her ticket because he wasn't going to pay for her return trip at all lmao how is that ambiguous "My girlfriend told me to buy her a new car even though hers was working fine, I said no" "YTA for destroying her current car with a sledgehammer just because she asked you for a new one (possibly) (it's ambiguous) (a completely legitimate reading)"
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# ? Apr 15, 2024 18:34 |
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Lol "Blood doesn't smell! If anything you smell metallic!"
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# ? Apr 15, 2024 18:35 |
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All else aside, of I pay for an entire vacation and you dump me on the last day I might feel okay making you pay for your flight back
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# ? Apr 15, 2024 18:37 |
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"relax honey, I didn't gently caress him. I mean I was planning to, but couldn't because you showed some spine." Also if you have a blow up with your partner on vacation get a seat away from them on the flight home. Don't sit by them and stew the whole way home.
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mystes posted:It's weird because if she was just like "I just read about this cool tourist site I want to check out so I want to take another couple weeks while I'm here, and if you can't come, could you just change my flight so I can come back separately later (and I'll pay for the difference)?" it would be an rear end in a top hat move to refuse, but it's like she went out of her way to make it sound like she intended to cheat even before she actually explicitly told him that Nah he still would've been fine to say no that, sorry.
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# ? Apr 15, 2024 18:40 |
right because you can just change your plane seat on a whim. planes love that, you can just hop in whatever seat you want
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# ? Apr 15, 2024 18:40 |
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idk i've never had a trouble rescheduling a flight but at a certain point i don't think we're having the same discussion
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# ? Apr 15, 2024 18:43 |
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Indecisive posted:right because you can just change your plane seat on a whim. planes love that, you can just hop in whatever seat you want Don't you usually only get your seat at check-in? Maybe don't check-in together?
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# ? Apr 15, 2024 18:43 |
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Indecisive posted:right because you can just change your plane seat on a whim. planes love that, you can just hop in whatever seat you want Anyway I'm not sure if people are misunderstanding what I'm saying, but I'm not saying the OP was wrong based on the actual situation including the update, I can just imagine a bunch of subtly different scenarios where it would not be reasonable for the OP to just say "gently caress off" and refuse to change the ticket (which is probably not even what happened in this case) Lottery of Babylon posted:lmao how is that ambiguous Shanghaied posted:Don't you usually only get your seat at check-in? Maybe don't check-in together? Whorelord posted:Nah he still would've been fine to say no that, sorry. mystes fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Apr 15, 2024 |
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mystes posted:I'm not sure if you're responding to my last comment but if so you can at least change seats when you check in if there are available seats, and there is something to not stranding people in foreign countries even if you break up with them or forcing someone who isn't comfortable sitting with you anymore to do so I'm not sure refusing to get on a flight that was booked and that I previously agreed to counts as "stranding someone in another country." I and a bunch of colleagues are going to a conference next month, and the flights are already booked. Can I on a whim demand on the last day of the conference that they reschedule my flight at their expense? Can I claim that I've been stranded in another country if I refuse to get on the flight? Anyway it's pointless to discuss hypothetical scenarios, because you can literally invent an infinite number of hypothetical scenarios where either person was the rear end in a top hat. Like what if she discovered while in Italy that he was the person that murdered her mother seven years ago, and now she fears for her own life?
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# ? Apr 15, 2024 18:52 |
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SMEGMA_MAIL posted:Tired of women disrespecting me and my knowledge of their anatomy Can't believe you would post this blatant Nazi propaganda Re: flights: is this some kind of euro/us difference or something? I've never had my seat assigned at check in, and tickets that you can change the date on are often significantly (1.5-2x) more expensive *and* require you to pay the difference with the new ticket
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Shanghaied posted:I'm not sure refusing to get on a flight that was booked and that I previously agreed to counts as "stranding someone in another country." I and a bunch of colleagues are going to a conference next month, and the flights are already booked. Can I on a whim demand on the last day of the conference that they reschedule my flight at their expense? Can I claim that I've been stranded in another country if I refuse to get on the flight?
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Fellas is it okay to post gore to win an argument with your wife?
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SMEGMA_MAIL posted:Fellas is it okay to post gore to win an argument with your wife? Ban + 30 for OP's marriage
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# ? Apr 15, 2024 19:00 |
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mystes posted:
On the last day of the holiday? Absolutely.
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# ? Apr 15, 2024 19:00 |
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Hey SMEGMA_MAIL, I appreciate all the content. But please do me a favor and format the posts the way you see elsewhere in the thread. Search doesn't include anything within quote boxes so nothing you've posted can be found in the future other than manually. EDIT: Also just a forewarning that an I/P discussion is not happening in this thread.
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Whorelord posted:On the last day of the holiday? Absolutely. Is it that you feel the ticket home is an offer that is conditional on providing accompaniment on the way back?
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# ? Apr 15, 2024 19:05 |
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mystes posted:Can you explain why you think it's reasonable to refuse if the other person is paying for the cost of changing it? Would you feel the same way if they weren't boyfriend and girlfriend? I think it's entirely reasonable to not want to have to sit by yourself on a 10-hour flight home and have to worry about your partner being in a foreign country by themself because they made a last-minute decision to extend their trip. Include the fact that he's paid for everything and it becomes even worse. "Sike I suddenly have money to contribute to this trip, but just for the part where I stay here by myself. Byeeeeeeeee" house of the dad fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Apr 15, 2024 |
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mystes posted:Can you explain why you think it's reasonable to refuse if the other person is paying for the cost of changing it? Would you feel the same way if they weren't boyfriend and girlfriend? it's unethical to leave a huge dumbass to their own devices in a foreign country
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Pope Corky the IX posted:
A what discussion? Okay now I'm confused af.
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You may not discuss the Ip Man movies in this thread
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