VoicesCanBe posted:

I thought they already removed it from the new draft bill.

Ardennes posted:

They were going to break it off into a new bill and then that got canned.

quote:

Ukraine will not listen to the US regarding strikes on Russian oil refineries, because Washington does not provide air defense - Kuleba of Foreign Affairs, who's not even qualified to run a lemonade stand.

“ I do not believe, and I think no one in Ukraine will believe, that the huge US Army does not have at least one Patriot battery that could save billions of dollars of infrastructure in Ukraine and precious Ukrainian lives. I will repeat my question: do you believe that America cannot now provide one battery? If the partners say: “We will give you 7 Patriot batteries tomorrow, but we have a request to you: you don’t have to do this and that.” Then there is something to talk about. And if you don’t have these systems, you don’t have a care package and you’re asked not to do something, then there’s no subject matter, then everyone survives as best they can .”

Not So Fast posted:

https://twitter.com/PolyglotFella/status/1779309189208170942?t=7KZ6x4OTUpwAQr4DDIozbA&s=19

Big Israel feeling left out

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KYIV — When Iran unleashed hundreds of deadly missiles and drones at Israel this weekend, Israelis relied on a crucial tool that Ukraine still does not have: instant, direct assistance from the United States and other partners with military assets in the region.

For more than two years, Ukraine has faced Russian missile and drone attacks, often including Iranian-made Shahed drones like the ones Tehran used on Saturday. As a shield, Ukraine relies on a hodgepodge of air defense systems provided by Western partners, including three U.S.-designed Patriot batteries manned by Ukrainian troops. This month, the biggest power station serving Kyiv was destroyed. Civilian casualties are common.

By contrast, as the weapons launched from Iran, Iraq, Syria and Yemen advanced toward their targets in Israel this weekend, U.S. forces prepared to react with fighter jets, a Patriot battery in Iraq and U.S. destroyer ships. Britain, France and Jordan also stepped up to assist. Together with Israel’s Iron Dome air defense system, they knocked down 99 percent of the some 300 missiles and drones — averting major damage.

The discrepancy in response was not lost on observers in Ukraine.

Last week alone, Russia launched nearly 130 Shahed drones, 80 missiles and 700 guided aerial bombs at Ukraine, President Volodymyr Zelensky said in his nightly address on Sunday. Ukraine relied on its own troops and its dwindling supplies of ammunition. But the immediate international response to Iran’s attack on Israel proved that modern air defense can save lives and that such defense is possible, Zelensky said.

“The whole world saw that Israel was not alone in this defense — the threat in the sky was also being eliminated by its allies,” Zelensky said. “And when Ukraine says that its allies should not turn a blind eye to Russian missiles and drones, it means action is needed — a bold one.”

“It is not rhetoric that protects the sky, it is not opinions that curb the production of missiles and drones for terror,” he added.

[....]

Like Zelensky, Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba referred to the direct help that partners provided to Israel. “Even if you cannot act the way you act in Israel, give us what we need and we will do the rest of the job,” Kuleba said.

[....]

Celebrated Ukrainian novelist Oksana Zabuzhko wrote on Facebook that Israel faced an opponent “before whom the West does not fall on its back in a position of canine humility.” In Jordan, she noted, Israel also had a neighbor who assisted in stopping the strikes.

[....]

Ukrainian lawmaker Andrii Osadchuk wrote on Facebook that “if suddenly the air force of NATO countries want to shoot down Iranian drones in the sky of Israel more effectively, they can train for free in Ukraine.”

[....]

Mykhailo Podolyak, an adviser to Zelensky, said that the successful defense of Israel showed the need for a “mandatory hard power response” to such attacks.

“'Answer or die!' — should be the unequivocal rule against those who seek to destroy global stability,” Podolyak posted on X.

VoicesCanBe posted:

https://twitter.com/OlgaBazova/status/1779926364264534209

Picking a public fight with your sponsors (on whom your war effort is completely dependent) to get a few air defense units that will not make a major difference even if you received them.

VoicesCanBe posted:

The US is publicly struggling to reel in two violently fascist attack dogs; and the reason they are both violent, uncontrollable fascist attack dogs is entirely their fault.

Officer Sandvich posted:

But the immediate international response to Iran’s attack on Israel proved that modern air defense can save lives and that such defense is possible, Zelensky said.

VoicesCanBe posted:

The US is publicly struggling to reel in two violently fascist attack dogs; and the reason they are both violent, uncontrollable fascist attack dogs is entirely their fault.

Regarde Aduck posted:

yeah the west is one of the most savage empires ever seen, it just has a really good media apparatus

VoicesCanBe posted:

https://twitter.com/distant_earth83/status/1779943633979875565

Some chatter on social media, weak evidence but something quite bad might have happened to Ukrainr today. We'll see if there's any substance to this, probably not tbh.

VoicesCanBe posted:

https://twitter.com/distant_earth83/status/1779943633979875565

Some chatter on social media, weak evidence but something quite bad might have happened to Ukrainr today. We'll see if there's any substance to this, probably not tbh.

VoicesCanBe posted:

https://twitter.com/distant_earth83/status/1779943633979875565

Some chatter on social media, weak evidence but something quite bad might have happened to Ukrainr today. We'll see if there's any substance to this, probably not tbh.

January 6 Survivor posted:

Starsfan posted:

There has been some speculation bubbling the last few days that a very large formation of Ukrainian troops (the word battalion has been thrown around but who knows for sure) surrendered on mass and that had a knock on effect of exposing other Ukrainian positions in that section of the front line but I haven't seen anything definitive on where this happened precisely or the numbers involved..

bedpan posted:

yeah another dawn broke and the war was still on

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

Was it this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z81SIffUMtM

samogonka posted:

Chancellor Scholz arrived in China today for a three-day trip. He was received by the deputy mayor of Chongqing. The Chinese didn't even bother to send the mayor, deputy mayor is considered appropriate for Europe's leading nation.

VoicesCanBe posted:

The US is publicly struggling to reel in two violently fascist attack dogs; and the reason they are both violent, uncontrollable fascist attack dogs is entirely their fault.

Spergin Morlock posted:

haha eat poo poo germany

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

If only we had some sort of parallel, say if Biden owned loving Belgian Malinois, or German Shepherds, whoever thought that was a good idea.

Spergin Morlock posted:

also the attack dogs keep biting his own security force lol

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/daily_romania/status/1779828041713160329?t=okmjHIFafwCxuiXiP29wvA&s=19

Have people lost their goddamn minds. Romania invaded the USSR as a part of a Barbarossa! The Red Army didn't invade them for shits and giggles three years later!!!

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/daily_romania/status/1779828041713160329?t=okmjHIFafwCxuiXiP29wvA&s=19

Have people lost their goddamn minds. Romania invaded the USSR as a part of a Barbarossa! The Red Army didn't invade them for shits and giggles three years later!!!

quote:

Teodor ușman (senior) was a member of the Romanian National Liberal Party...

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The growing power of Nazi Germany in the 1930s led some factions, primarily the one controlled by Gheorghe I. Brătianu, to seek a rapprochement with the former war enemy from 1936 onward; during World War II, PNL leaders supported Romania's participation in the Axis-led invasion of the Soviet Union...

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The PNL was also openly antisemitic, as it opposed the giving of the Romanian citizenship to the Romanian Jews.

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/daily_romania/status/1779828041713160329?t=okmjHIFafwCxuiXiP29wvA&s=19

Have people lost their goddamn minds. Romania invaded the USSR as a part of a Barbarossa! The Red Army didn't invade them for shits and giggles three years later!!!

super sweet best pal posted:

Wonder if a context add would cause Romania to ban twitter