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my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008


shes gonna vote for Biden again

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post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

Some Guy TT posted:

long version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpUx9DnQUkA

(i dont generally recommend lindsay ellis btw this is her only genuinely good video as far as i can tell)

short version

so stockholm syndrome as you may or may not know is the psychological theory that kidnapped people become sympathetic to their captors the theorys kind of bullshit (it almost certainly owes its legitimacy solely to patty hearst using it as a criminal defense) but its nonetheless on the surface level very applicable to the story of beauty and the beast because everyone knows that belle is taken captive by beast and falls in love with him and there was a time when stockholm syndrome was this cool hip thing that all the smart people know about hence how this became a cool edgy critique of this childrens cartoon

if you remember anything that actually happens in the movie of course it very quickly falls apart belle heroically offers herself in exchange as a hostage for her father whose original crime is not in dispute additionally the ambiguity of beasts character is like the whole driver of the second act by the end of which its clearly established that hes not terrifying people on purpose because he has asides where he expresses remorse and regrets over his overreaction and lack of self control and its also pretty clearly implied he has issues with self hatred and only agrees to the exchange at all because he knows his servants are also on the hook for the curse

the disney remake removes the asides under the assumption that theyre stockholm syndromesque conditioning but this toxically affects beast because now instead of showing belle the library because he has a eureka moment on his lonesome and realizes shed probably like the library and he wants to do something nice for her instead the idea and the introduction happen in the same scene so he just looks like a pimp showing off consequently belle also doesnt teach him how to read in the live action version because women teaching men to do things is sexist so instead hes just a jackass whos already smugly just as good at reading as she is

the bigger broader failure of the live action version that it turns the townspeople into sympathetic characters by also making them victims of the curse this completely changes the tone of the final act from gaston being a charismatic demagogue whipping the crowd into a kneejerk frenzy to him just being a weird...kindof...guy??? who noone really even likes all that much which is very much against the tone of the original which very unsubtly emphasizes that men should be judged according to their motivations not their competency in projecting a good public image which doesnt necessarily have anything to do with whether theyre actually a good person this was a very common third wave feminist idea and you can really see how the fourth wave shifted the conversation that this became toxic but that having gastons sidekick be gay (maybe???) is enough to make him sympathetic too when as gastons hype man hes arguably even more dangerous than gaston himself

twitter size version

https://twitter.com/embernic/status/1773069759996719277

im not reading any of that

ram dass in hell
Dec 29, 2019



:420::toot::420:

Some Guy TT posted:

long version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpUx9DnQUkA

(i dont generally recommend lindsay ellis btw this is her only genuinely good video as far as i can tell)

short version

so stockholm syndrome as you may or may not know is the psychological theory that kidnapped people become sympathetic to their captors the theorys kind of bullshit (it almost certainly owes its legitimacy solely to patty hearst using it as a criminal defense) but its nonetheless on the surface level very applicable to the story of beauty and the beast because everyone knows that belle is taken captive by beast and falls in love with him and there was a time when stockholm syndrome was this cool hip thing that all the smart people know about hence how this became a cool edgy critique of this childrens cartoon

if you remember anything that actually happens in the movie of course it very quickly falls apart belle heroically offers herself in exchange as a hostage for her father whose original crime is not in dispute additionally the ambiguity of beasts character is like the whole driver of the second act by the end of which its clearly established that hes not terrifying people on purpose because he has asides where he expresses remorse and regrets over his overreaction and lack of self control and its also pretty clearly implied he has issues with self hatred and only agrees to the exchange at all because he knows his servants are also on the hook for the curse

the disney remake removes the asides under the assumption that theyre stockholm syndromesque conditioning but this toxically affects beast because now instead of showing belle the library because he has a eureka moment on his lonesome and realizes shed probably like the library and he wants to do something nice for her instead the idea and the introduction happen in the same scene so he just looks like a pimp showing off consequently belle also doesnt teach him how to read in the live action version because women teaching men to do things is sexist so instead hes just a jackass whos already smugly just as good at reading as she is

the bigger broader failure of the live action version that it turns the townspeople into sympathetic characters by also making them victims of the curse this completely changes the tone of the final act from gaston being a charismatic demagogue whipping the crowd into a kneejerk frenzy to him just being a weird...kindof...guy??? who noone really even likes all that much which is very much against the tone of the original which very unsubtly emphasizes that men should be judged according to their motivations not their competency in projecting a good public image which doesnt necessarily have anything to do with whether theyre actually a good person this was a very common third wave feminist idea and you can really see how the fourth wave shifted the conversation that this became toxic but that having gastons sidekick be gay (maybe???) is enough to make him sympathetic too when as gastons hype man hes arguably even more dangerous than gaston himself

twitter size version

https://twitter.com/embernic/status/1773069759996719277

been saying this

ram dass in hell
Dec 29, 2019



:420::toot::420:
unless it's problematic in which case I never fucken said poo poo

Automata 10 Pack
Jun 21, 2007

Ten games published by Automata, on one cassette

my bony fealty posted:

shes gonna vote for Biden again
and he’s going to pass trans care bans afterwards

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/melissakchan/status/1779865536681181432

HazCat
May 4, 2009


Alternatively:

A bunch of people don't like Disney movies for a variety of reasons, and when Disney made the live action remakes they made the insane decision to try to appeal to those people instead of the fans of the films.

The changes they made were almost all hamfisted and clearly made by committee, leading to films that have a bunch of nonsense in them that directly works against the themes of the original films, without actually changing the themes, leaving no one happy.

Excelzior
Jun 24, 2013

very problematic adaptations of the nazi's cartoons

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

Automata 10 Pack posted:

and he’s going to pass trans care bans afterwards

hey now, you are underestimating biden's keen political instincts. he'll try to pass that ban before the election.

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

Automata 10 Pack posted:

and he’s going to pass trans care bans afterwards

purestrain succ

https://www.contrapoints.com/transcripts/voting

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024


This Cleanup Woman thing just shows how individuated and alienated people are, that they can't conceive of doing something kind for a loved one without a ledger and guarantee of future payoff.

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/zaugurz/status/1779589021192048960

alternatively: the us will lose ww3 because it has no industry, only spreadsheet touching

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/Phil_Lewis_/status/1780052452374384780?t=OSgymwhAbWQDNXxE-U61FA&s=19

Automata 10 Pack
Jun 21, 2007

Ten games published by Automata, on one cassette

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

hey now, you are underestimating biden's keen political instincts. he'll try to pass that ban before the election.

lmao you’re so right

Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000


Ultra Carp

Danann posted:

https://twitter.com/zaugurz/status/1779589021192048960

alternatively: the us will lose ww3 because it has no industry, only spreadsheet touching

lol maybe

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

that graph shows that per capita CO2 emissions hit a peak around the year 2000, and then has been declining ever since

but, we know that the Earth has only been getting hotter since then

so if you take this as some kind of evidence that things are getting better... that's plainly climate change denialism

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


https://x.com/kyle_maclachlan/status/1779964488919191579

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Some Guy TT posted:

showing male character girth within the context of a romantic relationship is sexist

Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000


Ultra Carp
Happy girth day, to all who celebrate

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

I want him to be Mr. President. Why can't we have him as Mr. President?

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011



women be shoppin'

Bootleg Trunks
Jun 12, 2020


Melissa Chump

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


https://x.com/ProudPatriots1/status/1778185640930054532
where's the biden bear

Automata 10 Pack
Jun 21, 2007

Ten games published by Automata, on one cassette
https://x.com/shark3ozero/status/1779928257237746147?s=46

Scarabrae
Oct 7, 2002


now thats a take

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

come on, man

the Elden Ring DLC

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
"yes biden is committing a genocide but," is so insanely craven yet youre already seeing it pop up everywhere

ProfessorBooty
Jan 25, 2004

Amulet of the Dark
idgaf. if a trump presidency would have caused worse conditions for americans than under brandon, it would have been worth it if a single Palestinian death was prevented.

Clip-On Fedora
Feb 20, 2011


That is not a very Sigma Male take my dude

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer
https://x.com/cmarinucci/status/1780067276735353278

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

Here's to the new us.

https://twitter.com/MrMenba/status/1779931093828808960

Ryan Gosling is correct.

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005


jesus loving christ

quote:

In an article about the selection, USC News noted Tabassum is graduating with a major in biomedical engineering and a minor in resistance to genocide.

1glitch0
Sep 4, 2018

I DON'T GIVE A CRAP WHAT SHE BELIEVES THE HARRY POTTER BOOKS CHANGED MY LIFE #HUFFLEPUFF

I have to stick around here until THE SUN EXPLODES? loving bullshit.

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

This Cleanup Woman thing just shows how individuated and alienated people are, that they can't conceive of doing something kind for a loved one without a ledger and guarantee of future payoff.

Or put the slightest thought into how other people's problems come to exist.

The problem even comes from how boys aren't really raised so much as kept alive and vaguely presentable to adulthood.

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



PoontifexMacksimus posted:

I know a lot of historians and related humanities people who would love nothing more than a stable job puttering around in archives and helping to build a digital Library of Alexandria, rather than chase whatever changing trends university admins and grant givers dictate.

Not just the humanities, either

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKiBlGDfRU8

Bootleg Trunks
Jun 12, 2020

i think you can live and just not pull the lever?

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MadSparkle
Aug 7, 2012

Can Bernie count on you to add to our chest's mad sparkle? Can you spare a little change for an old buccaneer?

lmao

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