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Automata 10 Pack
Jun 21, 2007

Ten games published by Automata, on one cassette

lmao this bitch

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Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

This Cleanup Woman thing just shows how individuated and alienated people are, that they can't conceive of doing something kind for a loved one without a ledger and guarantee of future payoff.

why is nobody happy anymore when everything becomes stone cold transactional

MadSparkle
Aug 7, 2012

Can Bernie count on you to add to our chest's mad sparkle? Can you spare a little change for an old buccaneer?

Al! posted:

"yes biden is committing a genocide but," is so insanely craven yet youre already seeing it pop up everywhere

once you dehumanize a group of people for long enough while elevating their oppressors, it really soaks in

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010


The "you're all nihilist doomers!" thing has always been projection because this is the true doomer poo poo here

Andorra
Dec 12, 2012

Incredible one-two punch lmao

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


WampaLord posted:

The "you're all nihilist doomers!" thing has always been projection because this is the true doomer poo poo here

There's really nothing as truly doomer, pessimistic, or defeatist than liberalism.

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



Some Guy TT posted:

the bigger broader failure of the live action version that it turns the townspeople into sympathetic characters by also making them victims of the curse this completely changes the tone of the final act from gaston being a charismatic demagogue whipping the crowd into a kneejerk frenzy to him just being a weird...kindof...guy??? who noone really even likes all that much which is very much against the tone of the original which very unsubtly emphasizes that men should be judged according to their motivations not their competency in projecting a good public image which doesnt necessarily have anything to do with whether theyre actually a good person this was a very common third wave feminist idea and you can really see how the fourth wave shifted the conversation that this became toxic but that having gastons sidekick be gay (maybe???) is enough to make him sympathetic too when as gastons hype man hes arguably even more dangerous than gaston himself

A rather prominent example of this is during the song "Gaston" where our villain brags about how amazing and manly he is.

In the animated version, we have no reason to doubt that he's just as good as he boasts. He actually has done all the things he's bragging about, and the people love him for it. This sort of charisma makes him dangerous, and provides some foreshadowing of his later whipping the town into an angry mob. He's a popular bully, the sort of person that a child is likely to encounter many times throughout their life, and a warning to not listen to someone just because they're outwardly impressive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30PVdigjbFY

The live action jettisons all that, as we see Lafou bribing the crowd to sing along. No one believes that Gaston is actually a great hunter, the women aren't actually swooning over him because he's a successful and powerful man about town, the men don't actually want to be him. They just tolerate him because there's money to be made. Are we to believe that they were bribed again to go along with arresting Belle's father or storming the castle? The warning about charismatic and outwardly impressive people who discretely harbor ill intentions is lost.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOjquzGpu0Q

As with many adaptations, it apes the style of the old one, yet makes changes that demonstrate a complete misunderstanding of why the original was the way it was. It dumbs it down to make sure no one actually mistakes Gaston as someone to look out for, because as we all know, villains announce themselves and their plans and intentions very directly, and you, the viewer, would never be fooled by someone like that.

Now, let me take a sip of my drink and double check the 2008 election results...

Automata 10 Pack
Jun 21, 2007

Ten games published by Automata, on one cassette
lol yeah obama’s election victory speech was very much “lmao I ain’t doing poo poo you’re on your own”

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things

Al! posted:

"yes biden is committing a genocide but," is so insanely craven yet youre already seeing it pop up everywhere

"Yes Biden might have sexually assaulted Tara Reade but Trump definitely did it more!!" was a real live take that i've heard people say IRL - like not even just internet crazies.

edit: I also had someone say to me "Who cares what Biden did, he's not raping you" - a democrat!

silicone thrills has issued a correction as of 05:00 on Apr 16, 2024

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Point: modem live action remakes of classic stories shoehorn in toxic aspects of fourth wave feminism that contradict the themes of the original, upending the moral center of the tale and leaving audiences grasping for some sort of consistent meaning

Counterpoint: you care about movies for babies

PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

Nichael posted:

It's funny that no other Speaker did the "emiritus" bullshit by the way.

"The Democratic Caucus named her "Speaker Emerita".[54][55]"

Democrats are monarchists at heart

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

gradenko_2000 posted:

that graph shows that per capita CO2 emissions hit a peak around the year 2000, and then has been declining ever since

but, we know that the Earth has only been getting hotter since then

so if you take this as some kind of evidence that things are getting better... that's plainly climate change denialism

https://twitter.com/GalenMetzger1/status/1779590520383152352

speak of the devil, :ukraine: emoji havers agree

Probably Magic
Oct 9, 2012

Looking cute, feeling cute.
What got me about the live action Beauty and the Beast was them giving Gaston PTSD as a bit, which, (A) Nice job having able ism in your woke remake, dipshits, but (B) Now I kinda want an A24 style period piece about a traumatized Gaston recovering from the war who slowly realizes a literally monstrous monarch is kidnapping women from his village.

SixteenShells
Sep 30, 2021

Probably Magic posted:

What got me about the live action Beauty and the Beast was them giving Gaston PTSD as a bit, which, (A) Nice job having able ism in your woke remake, dipshits, but (B) Now I kinda want an A24 style period piece about a traumatized Gaston recovering from the war who slowly realizes a literally monstrous monarch is kidnapping women from his village.

reminds me a little of Brotherhood of the Wolf, but in reverse I guess

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Beauty and the Beast x The 13th Warrior crossover

Bootleg Trunks
Jun 12, 2020


minnesota has been in a drought for 3 years and we just had a bullshit winter with zero snow and 40 degree temps. hawaii has been losing its beaches as the waves wash all the sand away

both my home states aren't feeling this "innovation"

MadSparkle
Aug 7, 2012

Can Bernie count on you to add to our chest's mad sparkle? Can you spare a little change for an old buccaneer?

Probably Magic posted:

What got me about the live action Beauty and the Beast was them giving Gaston PTSD as a bit, which, (A) Nice job having able ism in your woke remake, dipshits, but (B) Now I kinda want an A24 style period piece about a traumatized Gaston recovering from the war who slowly realizes a literally monstrous monarch is kidnapping women from his village.

yikes never saw this

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Beauty and the Beast except in the end Gaston thinks the Beast is kickin rad and they go on adventures, and may or may not kiss

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Beauty and the Beast except in the end Gaston thinks the Beast is kickin rad and they go on adventures, and may or may not kiss

walt disney presents: brokeback mountain

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

MadSparkle posted:

yikes never saw this

Yeah I saw it on a plane out of morbid curiosity and I'd describe it as "tasteless on all levels."

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

https://twitter.com/SenFettermanPA/...ingawful.com%2F

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Cool, now do total CO2 instead of per capita. The earth doesn’t give a gently caress about per-capita and it sure as gently caress doesn’t care about imaginary boundaries humans made up.

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011



shut up you fev freak

Rubellavator
Aug 16, 2007


is this the one that leaves out shipping and travel emissions

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

a cautionary tale to not get upset when a journalist tells you a candidate has brain damage

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Here's what bothered me about the remake: Lumiere makes a guillotine joke, but how is he able to do that since the movie takes place before the revolution? Even if he saw the future in the magic mirror or something, who is it for?

And how can he have a French accent? They're all French!

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Rubellavator posted:

is this the one that leaves out shipping and travel emissions

As well as the entire DoD, of course.

joepinetree
Apr 5, 2012

Rubellavator posted:

is this the one that leaves out shipping and travel emissions

It does include shipping and travel, but only if they are produced within the US.

Of course, what that stupid person doesn't mention is that the real reason the US CO2 production declined was deindustrialization. But if you account for CO2 emissions embedded in trade, then the US simply shifted a lot of its CO2 production elsewhere.

The US is by far the world's biggest "importer" of CO2 emissions. Over 500 million tons of CO2 are emitted every year to produce the things the US imports (and we're just talking production here, not transportation). For the same of comparison, you'd have to add up countries 2 through 5 on the list of "biggest importers of CO2 emissions" to get to where the US is.

Goa Tse-tung
Feb 11, 2008

;3

Yams Fan
always funny to see Hank Green huffing copium

Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

FlapYoJacks posted:

Cool, now do total CO2 instead of per capita. The earth doesn’t give a gently caress about per-capita and it sure as gently caress doesn’t care about imaginary boundaries humans made up.
The US population in 1913 was around 97+ million.

Lin-Manuel Turtle
Jul 12, 2023

[HAMILTON]
Eliza, I don’t have a dollar to my name
An acre of land, a troop to command, a dollop of fame
All I have’s my honor, a tolerance for pain
A couple of college credits and my top-notch brain
Insane, your family brings out a different side of me
Peggy confides in me, Angelica tried to take a bite of me

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

lol

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
emerita is Latin for loser

Andorra
Dec 12, 2012

Toph Bei Fong posted:

In the animated version, we have no reason to doubt that he's just as good as he boasts. He actually has done all the things he's bragging about, and the people love him for it. This sort of charisma makes him dangerous, and provides some foreshadowing of his later whipping the town into an angry mob. He's a popular bully, the sort of person that a child is likely to encounter many times throughout their life, and a warning to not listen to someone just because they're outwardly impressive.

The song the mob sings when they're preparing to kill the beast was intentionally written to resemble gay panic by a songwriter who was dying of AIDS, so I find it a little weird and distasteful changing the story to that he's not beloved because he's pretty and "normal" but that the people are just paid or under a magical spell.

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006

i'm fuckin tired of community notes that are just just replies. if you want to shove your stupid words in my face pay your $8 like the rest of the shitheads

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
it is always, always projection. not me tho

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

the audience cannot be trusted to know who the villain is supposed to be they had to make some changes so they stopped cheering for bane

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

Danann posted:

https://twitter.com/zaugurz/status/1779589021192048960

alternatively: the us will lose ww3 because it has no industry, only spreadsheet touching

#NAFO lol

they're nazis who cares what they think

also lol that graph is only for industry which the west all exported to china so ...

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

His majesty Louis the XIV regrets to inform you that this was a double post.

DJJIB-DJDCT has issued a correction as of 12:41 on Apr 16, 2024

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DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

Toph Bei Fong posted:

A rather prominent example of this is during the song "Gaston" where our villain brags about how amazing and manly he is.

In the animated version, we have no reason to doubt that he's just as good as he boasts. He actually has done all the things he's bragging about, and the people love him for it. This sort of charisma makes him dangerous, and provides some foreshadowing of his later whipping the town into an angry mob. He's a popular bully, the sort of person that a child is likely to encounter many times throughout their life, and a warning to not listen to someone just because they're outwardly impressive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30PVdigjbFY

The live action jettisons all that, as we see Lafou bribing the crowd to sing along. No one believes that Gaston is actually a great hunter, the women aren't actually swooning over him because he's a successful and powerful man about town, the men don't actually want to be him. They just tolerate him because there's money to be made. Are we to believe that they were bribed again to go along with arresting Belle's father or storming the castle? The warning about charismatic and outwardly impressive people who discretely harbor ill intentions is lost.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOjquzGpu0Q

As with many adaptations, it apes the style of the old one, yet makes changes that demonstrate a complete misunderstanding of why the original was the way it was. It dumbs it down to make sure no one actually mistakes Gaston as someone to look out for, because as we all know, villains announce themselves and their plans and intentions very directly, and you, the viewer, would never be fooled by someone like that.

Now, let me take a sip of my drink and double check the 2008 election results...

In the live action version, isn't Gaston implied to be crippled by PTSD from Louis the XIV's wars? I swear there were articles about that.




Were they going for a "who are the real beasts?" thing?



e: They could have solved the "problem" of the Gaston song (???) and the "problem" of "is LeFou gay enough?" at the same time,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DDN5nhCUUU

DJJIB-DJDCT has issued a correction as of 12:46 on Apr 16, 2024

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