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KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

mazzi Chart Czar posted:

Found a program called stem roller.
It will split up your songs into bass, Drums, others (lead instruments), the whole instrumentals, and vocals
https://www.stemroller.com/

here are the vocals

https://vocaroo.com/1eCLbgSxncwR

This seems to be noticeably better than UVR5 https://ultimatevocalremover.com/

In testing the same song side by side. UVR gives you four stems (Bass, Drums, Other, Vocals) while Stemroller gives you five stems (Bass, Drums, Instrumental, Other, Vocals). Stemroller seems to just clip them all apart a bit cleaner and keep them isolated. It's a lot quicker on my system too, in the matter of seconds vs. the 4~ minutes or so with UVR tuned to saturate my 4090. Thanks for pointing it out!

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SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

moises.ai lets you choose from a bunch of different ways to split up tracks.

credburn
Jun 22, 2016
A tangled skein of bad opinions, the hottest takes, and the the world's most misinformed nonsense. Do not engage with me, it's useless, and better yet, put me on ignore.
https://www.udio.com/playlists/vPwV8HGvCmn1NhEp3sm3ah

I'm playing around making a metal album of Rime of the Ancient Mariner. This is goofy fun and artists are obsolete as gently caress

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

Wrapped up that faux 1968-era Beatles song I was working on. Only lightly edited in post, the mix is so thick with instruments that moises struggled to isolate much so I mostly shortened things and cleaned up some transitions.

https://voca.ro/1lJkDwdeRXFd
"Walkaround"

Dell_Zincht
Nov 5, 2003



Has Suno given all free users 550 credits a day now or am I benefitting from some weird glitch?

Anyway here's something I came up with, ignore the lyrics (they're about a local politician and without context make no sense) but the track itself is quite fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iJ9WKgaHl0

TIP
Mar 21, 2006

Your move, creep.



Dell_Zincht posted:

Has Suno given all free users 550 credits a day now or am I benefitting from some weird glitch?

I got an email from them saying they were giving me a bunch of free credits and I interpreted this as a sign that they're very aware a lot of their users just left for udio :lmao:

I have still not touched suno since udio came out

Commie Lasorda
May 15, 2009

IT'S CLOBBERIN' TIME!
Ever since I got my hands on suno (now using Udio exclusively) I came to the realization that I'm really good at writing really stupid lyrics

https://x.com/AngstHarrier/status/1778304981587886136

https://x.com/AngstHarrier/status/1778731399023124552

https://x.com/AngstHarrier/status/1779424815335735435

https://x.com/AngstHarrier/status/1779667525066015180

https://x.com/AngstHarrier/status/1779794455765426665

e: also learned I'm not good at posting links

Commie Lasorda fucked around with this message at 12:08 on Apr 16, 2024

PaleFigure
Sep 3, 2007

the other white meat
Like most of you, I've been pretty much addicted to playing with Udio over the last week or so.

I'm not at the point where I'm jumping ship from Suno just yet, primarily because I still have a few projects in the works over there. One of them is looking to require external editing though, unless Suno releases some more robust editing tools like the ability to splice and stitch two separate tracks together.

My favourite thing about Udio is its extension function, which I think blows Suno's out of the water. I love being able to specify the creation of an intro or outro, and while 0:33 is a good length for each new segment, I actually wish the initial track from a new prompt would default to (or at least offer the choice of) a double-length track of 1:06 which you can then add on to.

Nevertheless, I've had fun making a few things in it, like a werewolf rap:
https://www.udio.com/songs/2aJssVwzP8QmFpFvMirDXX

A children's cartoon theme about fat gnomes on sky islands, a la Danny Elfman:
https://www.udio.com/songs/2K1rGu49ctnRR3UFZfPKVk

And a Gilbert & Sullivan-esque operetta about Theseus and Asterion (The Minotaur) finding love (WIP):
https://www.udio.com/songs/kRtDbdBEa2e6tSLXYinfyx

(side note: Thanks mods for thread title update!)

Isomermaid
Dec 3, 2019

Swish swish, like a fish
This thing could be the best music discovery system ever if everything you generated with it came with some tags of what it scraped to put together what it gave you. And of course, it's the one thing they can't do.

TheGoonspiracist
Jul 24, 2002

The terrible secret of space... :stonk: the Mods, they knew!
Here's a mixtape I made, from some HP Lovecraft poems, and some loose ideas for prompts. The last song is lyrics from a song my friend wrote during covid.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b18oEY8hg9g




I'm going to make so much prog rock with this.

https://www.udio.com/songs/jr9v3uaimJv7W7p2kgFm21

https://www.udio.com/songs/tkX4eFyfRhEcyuNq8jLrZW

Ricky Wade
Mar 14, 2008

I was in Goonies.
Took the lyrics from another song of mine and made a pop punk version of it.

https://suno.com/song/e410bf3d-6c80-4357-949d-9c3f2be2e0d8

Obligatory Orange Man song. Wrote the lyrics, AI did the rest.

https://suno.com/song/341497de-9cc9-4340-ad22-3baa102595b4

Ricky Wade fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Apr 16, 2024

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

Finished an early mix of that prog/glam rock song
https://voca.ro/1db4q0h3k2KC
"Dead"

DJ Fuckboy Supreme
Feb 10, 2011

And when you stare long into the abyss, you become aggressively, terminally chill

Turns out Udio pokes my ASD in the best way. I've had a blast prompting dumb as hell songs about mountain dew, how good I am at karate, meditative sermons on fried chicken, the list goes on.

My "Discography," if anyone is interested

Highlights:

A nostalgic track about nostalgia and mountain dew, "Kings of Cheap"

Dream pop about the songstress' conflicted feelings towards hotdogs

Nancy Reagan please leave my dog alone

XYZAB
Jun 29, 2003

HNNNNNGG!!

TIP posted:

I got an email from them saying they were giving me a bunch of free credits and I interpreted this as a sign that they're very aware a lot of their users just left for udio :lmao:

I have still not touched suno since udio came out

One thing I'll give credit to Suno for that Udio hasn't figured out yet is regional accents. I want a Philadelphia accent, a or Yorkshire accent, or Australian, Suno bangs it out no problem. Udio goes loving mental and generates incomprehensible nonsense. I think I got maybe two results last night out of twenty that played nice with my specific accent requests in manual mode. Even if Suno flubs the accent, it at least provides understandable English words instead of broad-spectrum vocalization noises.

a dangerous thot
Dec 19, 2016
Anyone make it on the trending charts on suno yet?
I thought this would make it due to its novelty (sounds like korn) but idk
https://suno.com/song/2e818379-bd03-45b3-bd3d-503380e441c1

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!
Just as I'm getting bored with churning stuff out in Bing, along comes Udio as a new way to distract me from work! :negative:

A perky 1990s pop song (about the miseries and inequalities of unchecked capitalism): https://www.udio.com/songs/pUHPmrev8rNjKWMTxhQZnC

A pop song about AIs being used to steal the work of others and present it as new without paying for it: https://www.udio.com/songs/3vUuQPdkPUZtYYqrcshHoy

A 140bpm techno rap about playing Dungeons & Dragons: https://www.udio.com/songs/m7xWuS6dB8iXQpBLFsZMyD

Small Strange Bird fucked around with this message at 15:18 on Apr 17, 2024

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

I've been using lyrics I write for Suno songs to create Udio songs, and there's a few I've noticed. Udio seems to make more "chaotic" tracks, and the inability to start the next part of the track from where ever you want needs to be introduced as soon as possible, but the recreation of instruments and voices seems a lot better than Suno. Most importantly to me, the audio quality is much higher, with none of the weird background noises you get with Suno.
Here's one example on Suno, using the electronic, experimental, robot pop, krautrock, minimalistic tags:
https://soundcloud.com/brown-moses/anything-you-want

The Udio version just uses the tag "minimalistic"
https://www.udio.com/songs/mBNGGQ6ybb2LGFCJGQW2Uf
What I discovered with that track is the tracks on Udio currently have a maximum length, unlike Suno, so watch out for that when you're making tracks. I also found you have to be careful with exactly what happens at the end of a clip you plan to extend, because if it goes quiet or has a weird glitch in it that'll cause annoying weirdness in the next part of the song.

TheGoonspiracist
Jul 24, 2002

The terrible secret of space... :stonk: the Mods, they knew!
A song about making GBS threads your pants at the renaissance fair, {british prog rock]

https://www.udio.com/songs/eE6bgVxC7EhNKc2cv5UwA8

Its a mix between Phil Collins and King Crimson,

Roman
Aug 8, 2002

https://twitter.com/ezralaeux/status/1780610861897330843

Krustic
Mar 28, 2010

Everything I say draws controversy. It's kinda like the abortion issue.
I kinda wanna make a nu metal song about how I am an extremely tough hardened man whom you do not want to mess with. Also how I am close to the edge and if you mess with me I might just snap and take a huge poo poo in my Jnco jorts in an aggressively violent manner. Track would end with me yelling “You don’t want this poop, boy!” Over and over. Good thing AI exists so all my best ideas can come to life.

Soulhunter
Dec 2, 2005

Ten-Tooth Timmy (Bluegrass)
https://www.udio.com/songs/bzVZcuKK7jPD1KzzYcKkMc

Emergency Exit (EDM)
https://www.udio.com/songs/3pyuuSpYA2v7YBjiT5isM6

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!
Crossposting from the Trump lol thread: Six Three, Two Fifteen (gangsta rap): https://www.udio.com/songs/tRoHM1tU648tDtXDo4EwF4

Isomermaid
Dec 3, 2019

Swish swish, like a fish
One of those late seventies bands that was fighting the battles nobody else was concentrating on

https://voca.ro/1eu25gKGU2tz

(Udio, 100% generated, had to fade it cos it just wouldn't write an outro). "Call and response" is a great modifier for getting it to generate funny backing vocals

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

Brown Moses posted:

What I discovered with that track is the tracks on Udio currently have a maximum length, unlike Suno, so watch out for that when you're making tracks. I also found you have to be careful with exactly what happens at the end of a clip you plan to extend, because if it goes quiet or has a weird glitch in it that'll cause annoying weirdness in the next part of the song.

I find it best practice to not go further than around 3 extensions anyway, there's too much quality and style loss with both models. I asked an Udio dev about arbitrary extension points and they say it's a planned feature, it's necessary for me to switch from Suno, though the quality of Udio is so drat high.

Annoyingly, Udio's last update disabled "manual mode". I don't think many people know about it, but apparently it's basically feeding keywords directly instead of interpreting them through another AI that filters them somehow. Anyway, manual mode was awesome, it let you get very specific with styles. Without it I couldn't get anything close to psych-pop era Beatles, it kept leaning too modern. Manual mode nailed it. Apparently it's a bug according to the devs and they're adding it back? But people in the Discord talked about getting hit with moderation notices because they used keywords of real artists, there might be more to it.

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

SCheeseman posted:

I find it best practice to not go further than around 3 extensions anyway, there's too much quality and style loss with both models. I asked an Udio dev about arbitrary extension points and they say it's a planned feature, it's necessary for me to switch from Suno, though the quality of Udio is so drat high.

Annoyingly, Udio's last update disabled "manual mode". I don't think many people know about it, but apparently it's basically feeding keywords directly instead of interpreting them through another AI that filters them somehow. Anyway, manual mode was awesome, it let you get very specific with styles. Without it I couldn't get anything close to psych-pop era Beatles, it kept leaning too modern. Manual mode nailed it. Apparently it's a bug according to the devs and they're adding it back? But people in the Discord talked about getting hit with moderation notices because they used keywords of real artists, there might be more to it.

Manual mode is back and seems to be working fine, though the Udio devs do have a thing open to report if you have issues with it. My guess is they did pull it on purpose to stop people from summoning training data out of it which is why they are asking for any errors people encounter.
Seems to work just fine for my uses though!

Paracausal
Sep 5, 2011

Oh yeah, baby. Frame your suffering as a masterpiece. Only one problem - no one's watching. It's boring, buddy, boring as death.
gave Udio a crack to do some shifting ambient style music, really easy to play with and make something listenable, weird
https://www.udio.com/songs/jSV97vFurSTdpCE15SfghK

XYZAB
Jun 29, 2003

HNNNNNGG!!
gently caress me.

gently caress you.

BHB
Aug 28, 2011

gently caress you.
https://www.udio.com/songs/pbtqXmoZ7jumiCNAGSQox9

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

https://www.udio.com/songs/rmNk53BzwiwcJidTa5PESU
"I'm gay"

DJ Fuckboy Supreme
Feb 10, 2011

And when you stare long into the abyss, you become aggressively, terminally chill

Udio's been lovely for allowing me to vicariously live my love of hardcore

Stubbing your toe as a consequence of failing to address that loose step

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!
Udio really doesn't have a clue what an 'outro' is, does it? Almost everything I've generated, I've had to clip and fade out in Audacity because it reaches what seems like a natural end point and then just... keeps going.

It's also infuriating when you create something piece by piece where you start to think "hey, this is actually pretty good", and then no matter what you do it absolutely refuses give you a seamless mix when you add another section, even though all the prior ones flowed perfectly.

DJ Fuckboy Supreme
Feb 10, 2011

And when you stare long into the abyss, you become aggressively, terminally chill

Yeah it's hit and miss for me.

Personally, I wish there was a way to 100% replicate a chorus as opposed to another interpretation of the same sequence of prompts and lyric

Small Strange Bird posted:

It's also infuriating when you create something piece by piece where you start to think "hey, this is actually pretty good", and then no matter what you do it absolutely refuses give you a seamless mix when you add another section, even though all the prior ones flowed perfectly.

I've found that manually adding [bridge] helps with some of those more awkward transitions, though


e: have a song about being really tall, in a twee Wes Anderson aesthetic

Edit again:
Inspired me to write lyrics for and then prompt

CORPSE CROTCH HONEY


a series of unfair stereotypes surround the average monster energy drink consumer

DJ Fuckboy Supreme fucked around with this message at 12:31 on Apr 22, 2024

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!
Something I made for Alien Day this Friday:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdpHhBc_xAM

DJ Fuckboy Supreme
Feb 10, 2011

And when you stare long into the abyss, you become aggressively, terminally chill


Taylor Swift, Pop Star, Icon, Horror

TIP
Mar 21, 2006

Your move, creep.




I figured out what site they were using in that video:
https://www.rateyourmusic.com

it's actually a pretty useful place to grab tags to guide your music gens

it may actually be where they got descriptions for their training data because I tried copying the tags for a beatles album and generating something in manual mode and they blocked all my requests

I got endless moderation warnings despite not using any words directly related to the beatles

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

I just tried it with a couple of obscure artists' albums and the prompt was blocked until I removed one style tag, so it looks like you're right.

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:
Confirming that it seems to be exactly what is happening. And yeah, just remove a single tag and viola! It works.

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!

TIP posted:

I got endless moderation warnings despite not using any words directly related to the beatles
I used "1960s, psychedelic rock, experimental" in a prompt and almost every result included the lyrics "Picture yourself in a..." :v:

Also, how do you add your own artwork to a track in Udio?

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

Small Strange Bird posted:

I used "1960s, psychedelic rock, experimental" in a prompt and almost every result included the lyrics "Picture yourself in a..." :v:

Also, how do you add your own artwork to a track in Udio?

You don't add it, you generate it inside Udio itself. Select a song, Edit, then you'll see 'Edit image' over the cover art to the left, click that and you get an interface to prompt for it to generate artwork.

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exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Is there any version of this stuff that is more modular, where you can edit and arrange parts in real time and say "give me this exact chord progression at 90bpm" or is it all entirely generative? I'm guessing based on the way it appears to function that it's the latter, and it wouldn't actually work with more precise instructions.

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