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Is Walton Goggins a character actor?
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Apr 15, 2024 14:45
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zoux posted:Is Walton Goggins a character actor? yes
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Apr 15, 2024 14:50
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Apr 15, 2024 14:53
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Well then he's gotta be in the conversation for GOAT character actor
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Apr 15, 2024 14:55
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I'm working through the new Mr. and Mrs. Smith series right now, and it has exceeded my expectations. I figured Donald Glover would be good in it, but I'm stunned by how great Maya Erskine is in this role -- I only knew her from Pen15, and she's absolutely killing it here. I'm a sucker for spy/heist stuff, especially if it isn't so dark and gritty that it can't have some lighthearted moments. Are there any other good recent shows in this vein? People seem to like Slow Horses, though I don't know much about it. And I have The Americans on my watchlist, but I think it's way more intense.
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Apr 15, 2024 16:09
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Yo Muscles, your show is back https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UkDdTMZh14
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Apr 15, 2024 16:58
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Dang, am I going to have to start watching Jack Reacher? https://twitter.com/notcapnamerica/status/1779632187148468721
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Apr 15, 2024 17:44
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ruddiger posted:Dang, am I going to have to start watching Jack Reacher? This is especially funny because while I really enjoyed Season 1, Season 2 is old boomer porn.
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Apr 15, 2024 17:46
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ruddiger posted:Dang, am I going to have to start watching Jack Reacher? He's a good dude but season 2 had a lot of random murders that made me feel ick. And I like violent media.
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Apr 15, 2024 17:46
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Yeah season 2 he beats up some local drug merchants, steals their money, and gives it to some creepy preacher and the show expected us to think it was charming somehow. Couldn't finish the season, but glad Reachers actor is a solid dude.
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Apr 15, 2024 18:03
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ruddiger posted:Dang, am I going to have to start watching Jack Reacher? The people mad about this 100% thought Reacher season 2 was perfection.
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Apr 15, 2024 19:36
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Khanstant posted:Yeah season 2 he beats up some local drug merchants, steals their money, and gives it to some creepy preacher and the show expected us to think it was charming somehow. Couldn't finish the season, but glad Reachers actor is a solid dude. Don't forget when he rolls them again when he needs a second gun.
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Apr 15, 2024 20:26
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Finished Fallout yesterday, what a quality series. I got my mom watching it too and she’s like “I don’t know how this could be a game” and I said, this is more like the game than any other adaptation I can think of, so obviously that structure doesn’t stick out to people who’ve never played FO
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Apr 16, 2024 16:24
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I've only seen the first two episodes but people think the BoS squires carring around those giant sacks are an extended reference to being overencumbered which is lol
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Apr 16, 2024 17:08
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Arist posted:I've only seen the first two episodes but people think the BoS squires carring around those giant sacks are an extended reference to being overencumbered which is lol I assumed it was that they were intended to be carried by the soldier wearing the power armor. But the BoS got into this knight and squire poo poo, so now the squire carries the bag.
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Apr 16, 2024 17:27
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Arist posted:I've only seen the first two episodes but people think the BoS squires carring around those giant sacks are an extended reference to being overencumbered which is lol I think its a reference to being over encumbered and to using your companion to just carry all your poo poo, which is the primary purpose of any companion in any Bethesda game.
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Apr 16, 2024 18:19
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zoux posted:Finished Fallout yesterday, what a quality series. I got my mom watching it too and she’s like “I don’t know how this could be a game” and I said, this is more like the game than any other adaptation I can think of, so obviously that structure doesn’t stick out to people who’ve never played FO It’s funny, I have a friend who flew through the entire season over the weekend and aside from a few questions about ghouls he had zero issue enjoying the show without ever having played the games.
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Apr 16, 2024 18:20
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Yeah, I've never gotten around to playing them, only knowing the stuff that has seeped into general gaming culture, and I'm enjoying the hell out of the series (I have three episodes left.) I have to say though that this series has brought out all the weekly release trolls. About every online discourse is complaining about the drop of all episodes at once and is begging Amazon to do weekly releases. What in the actual hell? If you want to watch it weekly, watch it weekly. I, for one, don't really feel like paying Amazon more than I have to, so getting them all at once is a boon.
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Apr 16, 2024 18:25
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Given its success, next season I wouldn't be surprised to see it go to 2 ep premiere + weekly after that
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Apr 16, 2024 18:28
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bull3964 posted:I have to say though that this series has brought out all the weekly release trolls. They're probably not trolls, and I don't think it helps the discussions to characterize the people you're disagreeing with this way.
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Apr 16, 2024 18:30
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I wish it was weekly because I really enjoy weekly discussions on each episode on this here forums. Halo was a lot of fun to discuss.
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Apr 16, 2024 18:34
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bull3964 posted:What in the actual hell? If you want to watch it weekly, watch it weekly. I, for one, don't really feel like paying Amazon more than I have to, so getting them all at once is a boon. To reverse this, you'd just need to pay Amazon for a single month 8 weeks later. If you want to watch it all at once watch it all at once.
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Apr 16, 2024 18:35
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Open Source Idiom posted:They're probably not trolls, and I don't think it helps the discussions to characterize the people you're disagreeing with this way. When every single post uses the exact same phrasing in the complaint and are posted by accounts that haven’t seen much activity or haven’t talked about TV much before, yeah I’m going to classify them as trolls. It feels like an elaborate astroturfing campaign.
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Apr 16, 2024 18:37
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Who would AstroTurf SA
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Apr 16, 2024 18:42
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GreenNight posted:I wish it was weekly because I really enjoy weekly discussions on each episode on this here forums. Halo was a lot of fun to discuss. Yeah, this is where I sit on it. Unless it's a show targeted at teens single drops just don't tend to generate the discourse that I think television benefits from. Not just theory crafting, but memeing and generally spending time in the headspace of the show as a group. The idea that people can watch a show one way or another, I mean that's true of however you release the show. Arguments about payment and such, again that's true regardless of how a show is released. But a show nearly always has a longer shelflife in the collective imagination if it comes out weekly. It's one of the inherent benefits of serialisation, not just the multiple breaks in the structure of the serial but the universally enforced duration of those breaks and the way discourse evolves during that space. Sure, binge drops are capable of simulating that on a local level, but it's just not achievable on a mass scale. Binge releases prioritize the individual -- "watch at your own pace". Weekly releases are about the collective.
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Apr 16, 2024 18:43
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Azhais posted:To reverse this, you'd just need to pay Amazon for a single month 8 weeks later. If you want to watch it all at once watch it all at once. Of course, but this is asymmetrical. You end up forcing the people who do not want to wait, to wait, while nothing is forcing people who do want to wait from watching it slowly. Spoilers aren’t really an excuse anyways because spoilers are up on the internet and bubbling up in the algorithm immediately after the episode (+plus episode’s length) goes live. If anything, it makes the spoiler issue worse since discussion is concentrated around one specific episode each week and is therefore given priority by the algorithm. I was spoiled more times for weekly shows in this past year than bingeable stuff because most of the time spoilers surfaced up on my feed first thing in the morning because someone had to watch and write an article about an episode the instant it went live. Cojawfee posted:Who would AstroTurf SA I’m not talking about SA. There is internet outside these walls.
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Apr 16, 2024 18:44
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bull3964 posted:When every single post uses the exact same phrasing in the complaint and are posted by accounts that haven’t seen much activity or haven’t talked about TV much before, yeah I’m going to classify them as trolls. I don't really follow this. Who would be astroturing and why? If Amazon really wanted to release a program weekly they'd do it themselves, like they do with plenty of their other shows. They wouldn't need to do this. And I can't imagine anyone else wanting to push this. Am I missing something here? Regardless, you're introducing a strawman into the conversation in a way that polarises the discussion. I get that you want to vent about things, but it's not helpful in this context and just instigates the kind of argument you'd probably want to avoid.
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Apr 16, 2024 18:47
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bull3964 posted:Yeah, I've never gotten around to playing them, only knowing the stuff that has seeped into general gaming culture, and I'm enjoying the hell out of the series (I have three episodes left.) Because it sucks having to binge a show, get spoiled, or just miss any discussion entirely because shows often come and go in a single week now. People aren't trolling you. If paying for Amazon is a thing you don't want to do, just don't. If that's a problem too, wait 2 months and binge it then.
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Apr 16, 2024 18:53
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bull3964 posted:When every single post uses the exact same phrasing in the complaint and are posted by accounts that haven’t seen much activity or haven’t talked about TV much before, yeah I’m going to classify them as trolls. Ah yes, the infallible logic that if a bunch of people have a similar opinion, that is proof the opinion is wrong. People like discussing a show week to week with other people who have seen exactly as much of the show as they have. This isn't super hard to figure out. It is a lot easier than trying to read pages and pages of a CIA document while going through a show, where some spoilers are relevant to how far you are, some are not, most are marked so you can know but not all of them, and of course with the caveat that there will always be at least one rear end in a top hat who is going to skip to the end and not use spoilers in the thread because "lol you actually care about enjoying a thing unspoiled, what a loser" has always been part of the goon identity.
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Apr 16, 2024 18:54
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I hate binging because it's just nice to be able to participate in the conversation a couple days later and pick up on things you might have missed. I just finished Fallout last night and I feel like the discussion cycle is already over.
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Apr 16, 2024 18:59
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GreenNight posted:I wish it was weekly because I really enjoy weekly discussions on each episode on this here forums. Halo was a lot of fun to discuss. Yeah, that's my take as well. I'm hesitant to make broad assumptions, but I wonder how closely the weekly vs binge divide is to the discuss with others vs not divide. Like, my folks prefer to binge watch series. They will wait until entire seasons are out (or even until the entire series is completed) before they start the very first episode. They'll watch 3-4 episodes a day until they finish the show. They hate weekly releases. But, they also don't talk about the shows they're watching with anyone but each other. And they tend to never engage the shows they watch with any sort of critical lens. Meanwhile, my wife and I prefer the weekly model. I like time to soak in each episode of a show. Time to let the storylines marinate. I also like to talk about the shows I'm watching with people here and other friends. I enjoy the weekly model because I feel like it gives time for the tension to breathe. Nothing sucks any tension out of a cliffhanger than immediately being able to start the next episode. Hell, even when an entire show/series is out, I tend to pace myself on the show - never more than an episode a night, and rarely more than a couple episodes a week.  theflyingexecutive posted:I hate binging because it's just nice to be able to participate in the conversation a couple days later and pick up on things you might have missed. I just finished Fallout last night and I feel like the discussion cycle is already over. That's the other aspect of the binge model I loving hate. There is no space for discussion of individual episodes. The whole show is out day 1 so you better be ready to discuss the entire series day 2. Mordiceius fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Apr 16, 2024 |
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Apr 16, 2024 19:00
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Open Source Idiom posted:I don't really follow this. Who would be astroturing and why? If Amazon really wanted to release a program weekly they'd do it themselves, like they do with plenty of their other shows. They wouldn't need to do this. And I can't imagine anyone else wanting to push this. Am I missing something here? It’s just bizarre that there are were literally 20 different posts by 20 people in my Threads feed over the past day or so begging Amazon to do a weekly release on the show next time. It struck me as super odd and wasn’t really something I’ve seen lately with any other show. If I were to guess, it’s engagement farmers who don’t like the fact that they don’t have something spread out over 8 weeks to mine articles about rather than a drop all at once. Sites like GiantFreakinRobot with clickbait articles over one dumb detail about something. Drops of full seasons hurt their engagement for the same reasons you are talking about, the show drops from public chatter faster. I’m all for actual real discourse on this matter, but these posts aren’t anything like that. It’s literally just someone saying that binges are bad and please don’t do them anymore while not actually engaging in conversation about it.
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Apr 16, 2024 19:03
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bull3964 posted:Threads lol well theres your fuckin problem
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Apr 16, 2024 19:04
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bull3964 posted:It’s just bizarre that there are were literally 20 different posts by 20 people in my Threads feed over the past day or so begging Amazon to do a weekly release on the show next time. It struck me as super odd and wasn’t really something I’ve seen lately with any other show.
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Apr 16, 2024 19:06
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bull3964 posted:If I were to guess, it’s engagement farmers who don’t like the fact that they don’t have something spread out over 8 weeks to mine articles about rather than a drop all at once. Sites like GiantFreakinRobot with clickbait articles over one dumb detail about something. Drops of full seasons hurt their engagement for the same reasons you are talking about, the show drops from public chatter faster. Ah yeah, I'm picking up what you're putting down now, yeah. Thanks for sharing. Like I said above, I'm very much in the weekly space -- I'm still only a handful of episodes in four different shows that did full season drops the last two weeks, it's frustrating if you follow a lot of different shows like I do. It's another reason why I prefer weekly. I'm guessing you're a one show at a time kind of person? Mum's like that. She's like Mordiceius's parents in that way. She's not like that with books though, which is interesting, but I think she's in a lot of different book clubs and values that discourse more than film or television.
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Apr 16, 2024 19:08
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Open Source Idiom posted:I'm guessing you're a one show at a time kind of person? Mum's like that. She's like Mordiceius's parents in that way. She's not like that with books though, which is interesting, but I think she's in a lot of different book clubs and values that discourse more than film or television. My folks are insane. They watch 3-4 hours of TV every night. And they only watch one show at a time. Then move on to the next. They'll weave in movies, but when it comes to shows, it is a single show until they watch it to completion (which only takes a few days). And then they'll bitch that they have to wait for the next season.
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Apr 16, 2024 19:13
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bull3964 posted:It’s just bizarre that there are were literally 20 different posts by 20 people in my Threads feed over the past day or so begging Amazon to do a weekly release on the show next time. It struck me as super odd and wasn’t really something I’ve seen lately with any other show. https://www.ign.com/articles/fallout-is-pretty-great-it-wouldve-been-better-weekly https://comicbook.com/anime/news/scott-pilgrim-takes-off-streaming-weekly-binge/ There have been a couple of big pro-weekly articles lately, so people are simply reacting to those and feeling energized to post their own opinions. It's not astro-turfing; discourse can often be self-perpetuating like that.
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Apr 16, 2024 19:13
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Open Source Idiom posted:
I'm a watch in bursts kind of person. I only have three episodes of Fallout left, but if it weren't for the Amazon payment clock ticking, it could take me anywhere where from a day to 6 months to finish. It really all depends on what I have going on and what mood I'm in. I find I am more likely to finish shows that have everything dropped at once rather than weekly because I'll get distracted at some point during the multi-week release of a show and one episode backlog will turn into two will turn into "might as well wait till the season is done" and by that point I was distracted by something new and shiny (may not even be TV related) and I might not get back to the show. None of my friends really watch anything on approaching a regimented schedule, if there's even show overlap, so there no discussion potential there. SimonChris posted:https://www.ign.com/articles/fallout-is-pretty-great-it-wouldve-been-better-weekly The thing that sticks out to me there is the whole reason why I got through all of Scott Pilgrim and enjoyed it as much as I did is that it was something that my friend group was excited about and watched basically instantly on release and we could talk about it. Had it been a weekly release, we probably wouldn’t have all watched it around the same time (since some would have waited until it was done and some would have watched it semi in real time). It’s a lot easier for some people to carve out a block of time to watch something rather than pick up an episode here or there as they become available. bull3964 fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Apr 16, 2024 |
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Apr 16, 2024 19:24
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I prefer weekly shows as I don't really binge stuff and usually everyone has moved on after I have watched something.
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bull3964 posted:I'm a watch in bursts kind of person. I only have three episodes of Fallout left, but if it weren't for the Amazon payment clock ticking, it could take me anywhere where from a day to 6 months to finish. More points to my theory that people who have preference for the binge watch model are probably not spending much/any time discussing shows they're watching with others.
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