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Smugworth posted:Where are the lady orks The Seinfeld 40K Thread clearly states that Kramer was dating one, and as far as I'm concerned that thread is canon. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3789940&pagenumber=3 Triggered posted:George tries to be proactive but accidently orders an exterminatus on his bosses home planet. Jerry does not understand why his assassin has failed yet again to kill his political rival. Kramer arrives for a tour of the inner sanctum and is mistaken for the tech priest he pushed off a ledge by accident 5 minutes before. He is tasked with entering the webway to discover a fix for the golden throne.
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Are there any other instances of Games WOKEshop doing more lore reveals or retcons on things like what's happened with the Custodes?Froghammer posted:GW is riding a weird fine line with Orkz in that they're technically genderless because fungus but also they refer to themselves as either boyz or lads because soccer hooligans Is any of the fact that they're non-binary explicitly in the lore, or is it discussed ever or is it just only mentioned in how Orkz reproduced and biology in like the codex or something? e: grammar thin blue whine fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Apr 16, 2024 |
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 this dope never read 40k in his life and it shows.
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thin blue whine posted:Is any of the fact that they're non-binary explicitly in the lore, or is it discussed ever or is it just only mentioned in how Orkz reproduced and biology in like the codex or something? Original lore was that they were all male but sometimes one of them would turn female, get embarassed, and wander off saying they "had to take care of sumfin'" and come back later with babies, but this was discarded on the grounds that it was real fuckin' stupid
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thin blue whine posted:Are there any other instances of Games WOKEshop doing more lore reveals or retcons on things like what's happened with the Custodes? They retconned the necrons and C'tan but not quite the same way
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Orkz should be boys and eldar should be girls
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sharknado slashfic posted:They retconned the necrons and C'tan but not quite the same way Also Iirc there were Ork Genestealers back in the day, but when they made the new Genestealer Cults army they created new lore that said Ork Genestealers don’t really work because other Orks can feel something’s wrong through the waaaugh.
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chaos and tyranids and all that poo poo doesn't work on Orkz because the Orkz believe they're immune to it they'd be bulletproof if you could convince the fight-happy bastards that getting shot wasn't funny
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sharknado slashfic posted:They retconned the necrons and C'tan but not quite the same way I remember the first iteration. I think 3rd edition? I started playing right as the Necron codex was released (and took a very looooong hiatus a few years after). The new lore is much better, I think. Specifically though, I was thinking more like any crazy gender reveals or anything that outraged some of the bigger losers in the fandom for being too "woke".
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CapnAndy posted:chaos and tyranids and all that poo poo doesn't work on Orkz because the Orkz believe they're immune to it Wll akshually! There were definitely chaos orks in the old codex.
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Yeah Orks have a natural resistance to Genestealers and Chaos, especially compared to humans who are insanely susceptible to every drat thing, but they are definitely not immune.
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I see this misconception of the power of the Waaagh all over the place, and I have to assume it comes from irresponsible Youtubers and other misinformation peddling foreign agents. The Waaagh bends reality slightly so things work as Orks expect them to work. It makes an engine that normally would instantly stall out run basically OK. It doesn't turn a cardboard box with "gun" on it into a gun.
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thin blue whine posted:I remember the first iteration. I think 3rd edition? I started playing right as the Necron codex was released (and took a very looooong hiatus a few years after). The new lore is much better, I think. There was a black space marine on the cover of the first "Guilliman is in charge now" book which I think caused a mild stir and they also acknowledged the existence of the sisters of silence. That's all I can think of off the top of my head.
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thin blue whine posted:thought this said "extra kinks" Well, I was trying to stay on topic, but since you brought it up...
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thin blue whine posted:Are there any other instances of Games WOKEshop doing more lore reveals or retcons on things like what's happened with the Custodes? as others mentioned, not really but they should do a lot more, because the outrage at female custodes is loving hilarious
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Vampire Panties posted:as others mentioned, not really  Boys mad.
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Next step is to reveal that the missing 2 primarchs were women, but stricken due to some ecclesiastical nonsense for being so. And their stats are better than Guillioman.
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sharknado slashfic posted:There was a black space marine on the cover of the first "Guilliman is in charge now" book which I think caused a mild stir and they also acknowledged the existence of the sisters of silence. That's all I can think of off the top of my head. arent the salamanders black? im not a 40k nerd but i thought there was an entire company of black space marines and it was salamanders
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the salamanders are basically genetic blackface. they turn black(er) when they get the geneseed im not even kidding
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snergle posted:arent the salamanders black? im not a 40k nerd but i thought there was an entire company of black space marines and it was salamanders The Salamanders are black like charcoal, not melanin. POC marines have always existed. It's loving stupid to think that after 10000 years on every type of planet that everyone would somehow end up on the white to ham side of the spectrum.
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They should keep quiet on the female space marines issues, cause watching dumbasses on both sides fight eachother is funny.snergle posted:arent the salamanders black? im not a 40k nerd but i thought there was an entire company of black space marines and it was salamanders I always thought that the Salamanders were black, but less regular human dark skin and more onyx-like black.
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Gripweed posted:I see this misconception of the power of the Waaagh all over the place, and I have to assume it comes from irresponsible Youtubers and other misinformation peddling foreign agents. The Waaagh bends reality slightly so things work as Orks expect them to work. It makes an engine that normally would instantly stall out run basically OK. It doesn't turn a cardboard box with "gun" on it into a gun.  it used to and that was funner
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it's extra stupid because space marines have always canonically had a skin implant that adjusts their melanin levels to optimal for whatever level of UV they're exposed to and yet no author has ever brought that up as far as I know, anybody remember them referencing that in a book? Even an imperial guard liason or something going 'oh hey that guy's pale as a ghost inside but bronze god outside" the reason the salamanders are charcoal black is because theirs doesn't turn off.
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Chaos Orks do happen, they're just rare for a few reasons mostly that Chaos doesn't really have a lot to offer them. I imagine the exceptions are mostly when a Khornate daemon manages to convince an Ork they'll have hella fun letting them come along for the ride.
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Look if the 10 foot tall vaguely human shaped demigod that can crush a space marine like a space marine can crush a human says its preferred pronouns are she/her then Im not really gonna contest the issue. I am, however, going to ask if she can give me a piggy back ride.
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Benagain posted:it's extra stupid because space marines have always canonically had a skin implant that adjusts their melanin levels to optimal for whatever level of UV they're exposed to and yet no author has ever brought that up as far as I know, anybody remember them referencing that in a book? Even an imperial guard liason or something going 'oh hey that guy's pale as a ghost inside but bronze god outside" dan abnett, know no fear, in the attack on calth
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generally, the specific implants getting discussed are the weirder ones like omophagea and belchers gland
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Archer666 posted:I always thought that the Salamanders were black, but less regular human dark skin and more onyx-like black. That, and they all have glowing red eyes because of an inherited condition caused by weird radiation on their Primarch's home planet. As far as Space Marine chapters go they're about the closest thing 40k has to "good guys" and they're the only ones who value ordinary human life over their own.
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cult_hero posted:The Salamanders are black like charcoal, not melanin. POC marines have always existed. It's loving stupid to think that after 10000 years on every type of planet that everyone would somehow end up on the white to ham side of the spectrum. Archer666 posted:They should keep quiet on the female space marines issues, cause watching dumbasses on both sides fight eachother is funny. oh so they arent melanin black just black as in the color thats wierd
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IIRC it was both for a while because of some confusion between the lore writers and artists. Supposedly the Drow style black skin/red eyes was the intent, but the artists heard "black skin" and just assumed melanin-black.
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Grammarchist posted:The Seinfeld 40K Thread clearly states that Kramer was dating one, and as far as I'm concerned that thread is canon. lol ty for linking that thread
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:That, and they all have glowing red eyes because of an inherited condition caused by weird radiation on their Primarch's home planet. As far as Space Marine chapters go they're about the closest thing 40k has to "good guys" and they're the only ones who value ordinary human life over their own. And I'm pretty sure that they look scary by default and are particularly brutal in combat (they love flamethrowers almost as much as the Sororitas) is meant to be a deliberate contrast there. They should really do more with the Iron Hands, as one-note as they often are there's genuinely interesting poo poo going on with how they embrace bionics to the point where it's implied a lot of them go full-body conversion, in a way that's nearly unique in the setting and especially among Space Marines.
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snergle posted:oh so they arent melanin black just black as in the color thats wierd they all talk like Robin William's impression of a black person it's very cringe
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Smugworth posted:they all talk like Robin William's impression of a black person it's very cringe Now I'm reminded of the audio book version of Scars, where the narrator had all the White Scars talk with the faux asian accent
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Gripweed posted:I see this misconception of the power of the Waaagh all over the place, and I have to assume it comes from irresponsible Youtubers and other misinformation peddling foreign agents. The Waaagh bends reality slightly so things work as Orks expect them to work. It makes an engine that normally would instantly stall out run basically OK. It doesn't turn a cardboard box with "gun" on it into a gun. if they tape together a bunch of cardboard into the vague shape of a gun and load a clip into it, will it at least explode?
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