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🦋 | 15 | 3.71% | |
🦇 | 115 | 28.47% | |
🪰 | 12 | 2.97% | |
🐦 | 67 | 16.58% | |
dragonfly | 94 | 23.27% | |
🦟 | 14 | 3.47% | |
🐝 | 87 | 21.53% | |
Total: | 404 votes |
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Love to protest against government transparency
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 12:56 |
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# ? Jun 8, 2024 09:31 |
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lmao, very hinged twitter.com/sopjap/status/1779938822949671395#m edit: lmao twitter.com/bryan_gigantino/status/1779834131435684271 genericnick has issued a correction as of 13:16 on Apr 17, 2024 |
# ? Apr 17, 2024 13:03 |
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Truga posted:https://twitter.com/wartracker4/status/1780350046539506026 Get ready to hear about how violent and oppressive the Georgian police are.
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 13:03 |
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NinjaPaco posted:THank you very much, could someone also post angry zelenksky at that party with those glaring eyes, and also again I really want to send a thanks out to all the posters of this thread, its been extremely informative and I can't thank you enough, special shout out to dk2m who really helped me, a stupid liberal, understand some things with this post That's a good post, it leaves out an important part of the story that's useful for understanding why the US loves the Ukranian Nazis so much. Which is that the OUN never went away, after WW2 and Bandera's death it took a journey to the West, both as part of the greater Ukranian diaspora and in smaller spurts. And as part of international anticomminust organizations. The first of these is why you see so many Ukranian Nazi memorials in Canada, lots of OUN people emigrated there. In the US Chicago was and I think still is the center of the OUN in America. These groups still exist and they still have powerful political connections. Chrystia "She-Wolf of the SS" Freeland is the most obvious example, but... ...Ukranians with OUN ties had huge influence in the US too. A guy named Lev Dobriansky was the nexus/fixer here; he chaired something called the National Captive Nations Committee, an essentially Nazi/Banderite organization, which was successful in lobbying the Eisenhower administration to create Captive Nations Week in the US. This is a US government-sponsored week that celebrates anticommunism, and it is very important to understand that anticommunism is fascism, they are one in the same. It still happens. Joe Biden celebrated it in July of last year - https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2023/07/14/a-proclamation-on-captive-nations-week-2023/ Dobriansky is dead but his daughter Paula Dobriansky, who is every bit as much a psycho Nazi as her father, has been a high-level member of several Presidential administrations, most recently Bush II and almost Trump's. The point of all this is that Ukranian nationalism, i.e. fascism, has had close ties to the US federal government and especially the foreign policy apparatus, since WW2 and probably before. The US working with, arming, and training far right groups in Ukraine around 2014 up through today isn't an aberration. It's a continuation of policy exactly has it has existed for decades. In 1983 a guy named Yaroslav Stetsko was greeted warmly and honored by both Reagan and Bush I at the White House. Stetsko was one of the worst criminals of the Holocaust in Ukraine, Bandera gets all the attention but Stetsko was arguably imo the Worse Ukranian Hitler. America loved him. He led the Anti-Bolshevik Bloc of Nations, which later fused with KMT and South Korean anticommunist groups to form the World Anti-Communist League. You can think of WACL as basically the fascist international of the Cold War era. It was an org that linked fascists and Axis war criminals from all around the world. The US was a big supporter. Ukranian nationalists were a huge part of it. This is an enormously deep rabbit hole to go down so I will stop here. Haven't even mentioned how the CIA recruited mass murdering Ukranian criminals like Michael Lebed. But I hope it's clear that the US has supported Ukranian fascism for a very long time, and that they continue to do so in 2024 is just business as usual.
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 13:12 |
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lmao quote:Salome Zourabichvili, 5th President of Georgia
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 13:13 |
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USA was supporting fascism in ukriane even before ww2. maybe you said that, I am not up to reading whole posts yet today.
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 13:14 |
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Organically rising up for the rights of foreign intel cutouts (again)
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 13:17 |
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Shogi posted:Organically rising up for the rights of foreign intel cutouts (again) Zourabichvili's party is the one actually pushing the law, so you someone born in Paris...actually opposing the US.
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 13:23 |
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Ardennes posted:Zourabichvili's party is the one actually pushing the law, so you someone born in Paris...actually opposing the US. Zourabichvili does not belong to any party. The president is a largely ceremonial position. Power rests with the prime minister.
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 13:29 |
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genericnick posted:what do they die of though?
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 13:29 |
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Ardennes posted:Zourabichvili's party is the one actually pushing the law, so you someone born in Paris...actually opposing the US. I think the government that's pushing the law actually tried to impeach her at some point?
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 13:30 |
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Metal gear…the missing link between tank and shed.
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 14:11 |
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Looks more like a shagohod
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 14:13 |
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quote:The current US debate about providing additional military assistance to Ukraine is based in part on the assumption that the war will remain stalemated regardless of US actions. That assumption is false.[1] The Russians are breaking out of positional warfare and beginning to restore maneuver to the battlefield because of the delays in the provision of US military assistance to Ukraine. Ukraine cannot hold the present lines now without the rapid resumption of US assistance, particularly air defense and artillery that only the US can provide rapidly and at scale.[2] Lack of air defense has exposed Ukrainian front-line units to Russian aircraft that are now dropping thousands of bombs on Ukrainian defensive positions for the first time in this war.[3] Ukrainian artillery shortages are letting the Russians use armored columns without suffering prohibitive losses for the first time since 2022.[4] The Russians are pressing their advantage and advancing slowly but steadily on several sectors of the front. Since the beginning of this year, Russian forces have seized over 360 square kilometers - an area the size of Detroit. Russian advances will accelerate absent urgent American action. US policymakers must internalize the reality that further delaying or stopping American military assistance will lead to dramatic Russian gains later in 2024 and in 2025 and, ultimately, to Russian victory. maneuver's back on the menu
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 14:24 |
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OhFunny posted:Zourabichvili does not belong to any party. She ran against the UNM, and was part of the Georgian dream alliance as an independent, it is just that there has been a falling out. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 14:31 on Apr 17, 2024 |
# ? Apr 17, 2024 14:28 |
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:Looks more like a shagohod Shedohod
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 14:30 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 14:34 |
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One of the colour revolution books bemoaned that “for some reason” Georgian politics consisted of factions fighting for resources and patronage, rather than democratic ideals burning brightly in the hearts of the Georgian people, aiming to perfect Fukuyama’s ideal society. It suggested that western NGOs basically reshape Georgian media and society so people don’t say things like: “these elections don’t matter”, “both sides are the same”, “I support whoever is willing to give me stuff”.
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 14:35 |
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From Japaridze's monster article about the current state of affairs in Georgia https://lefteast.org/sovereignty-foreign-influence-and-the-search-for-the-georgian-dream/:quote:Foreign funds are ubiquitous in Georgia. I’m not sure if any research on the impact of foreign funding on all aspects of society has been conducted (and who would fund such a study?). The government receives significant grants and loans; simply visiting any ministry’s website reveals a plethora of foreign “partners.” Foreign grants almost entirely support Georgia’s civil society. Unions receive grants. Foreign funds are used to fund everything from municipal projects to small farmers and businesses to academic institutions. Foreign governments and funds finance films and culture. Foreign grants also contribute to the funding of political parties, either directly or indirectly – political parties have an NGO wing that receives funding. Many politicians are involved with non-governmental organizations (NGOs). An NGO can be registered in one day. At the same time, many Georgian families get by on remittances from Russia and EU.
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 14:43 |
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Washington post with the breaking and shocking news that reveals that russia is trying to weaken american influence. wow. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/04/17/russia-foreign-policy-us-weaken/
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 15:12 |
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dead gay comedy forums posted:bit ot but it's a tidbit I really like: Nadezhda Krupskaya, the Soviet commissar of education (and Lenin's wife), was instrumental in developing an entire new pedagogy that dismissed the normative/prescriptive aspects and applied dialectical materialism into linguistics. that owns
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 15:24 |
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NinjaPaco posted:THank you very much, could someone also post angry zelenksky at that party with those glaring eyes, and also again I really want to send a thanks out to all the posters of this thread, its been extremely informative and I can't thank you enough, special shout out to dk2m who really helped me, a stupid liberal, understand some things with this post
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 15:26 |
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:One of the colour revolution books bemoaned that “for some reason” Georgian politics consisted of factions fighting for resources and patronage, rather than democratic ideals burning brightly in the hearts of the Georgian people, aiming to perfect Fukuyama’s ideal society. It suggested that western NGOs basically reshape Georgian media and society so people don’t say things like: “these elections don’t matter”, “both sides are the same”, “I support whoever is willing to give me stuff”. I assume instead they should say "these are the most important elections ever" and "the election is between democracy and autocracy" every single election?
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 15:27 |
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don’t say: ‘I call it politricks’ do say: ‘Vote.’
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 15:34 |
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Orange Devil posted:I assume instead they should say "these are the most important elections ever" and "the election is between democracy and autocracy" every single election? lol essentially. Here's a problem. It's clear that "civil society" set up via USAID and NED in all of these other states is essentially a fifth column. We treat our own NGO sector as make-work jobs for annoying liberal PMC (like the financial advice columnist who gave a shoebox full of cash to a scammer), and they are - but - what if they also function the same way here? If we know that Lebanese NGOs, and Georgian NGOs, and Ukrainian NGOs, exist to subvert society and serve a very specific agenda, via their control over the media and huge financial resources, wouldn't that make our annoying land acknowledgement and green initiative liberals dangerous as well? I mean, how many people who went on MSNBC to say that Bernie seemed "yelley" and reminded them of their mean dad, had gone to Georgetown and then worked at some NGO in the former Warsaw Pact? I can think of at least two. Even Terrell Jermaine Starr, who is incredibly annoying, seems like a harmless liberal grifter, it turns out has the CV of a spook, has graduate education in Eastern European languages, worked in Georgia and Ukraine - and is now on the BLM circuit stateside. Well, he's not competent and dangerous abroad and an oaf scamming for donations at home, surely? e: but yes the book on Colour Revolutions being rolled back said that they should use the messaging "the election is between democracy and autocracy", have mass street demonstrations if they're ever voted out of power etc etc. I guess the fact that eastern Ukrainians kept getting elected really pissed people off. They had gone through all that work for the Orange Revolution, and then they had to do it again at Maidan. I think maybe the Nazis are a work around. It's a 180 to that narrative about opposing pro-Russia autocracy, sure, but it means that they don't have to worry about getting thrown out of office. We'll see if that pops up in Armenia, Serbia, and Georgia, where the pro-west leaders and the NGO and media apparatus backing them, seem to be more unpopular by the day. It's also easy to forget that Orban was originally their guy, and now the "radical pro-democracy activist" is the next coming of Horthy? Funny how that works. DJJIB-DJDCT has issued a correction as of 16:32 on Apr 17, 2024 |
# ? Apr 17, 2024 16:25 |
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Al-Saqr posted:Washington post with the breaking and shocking news that reveals that russia is trying to weaken american influence. wow. quote:Using much tougher and blunter language than the public foreign policy document, the secret addendum, dated April 11, 2023, claims that the United States is leading a coalition of “unfriendly countries” aimed at weakening Russia because Moscow is “a threat to Western global hegemony.” The document says the outcome of Russia’s war in Ukraine will “to a great degree determine the outlines of the future world order,” a clear indication that Moscow sees the result of its invasion as inextricably bound with its ability — and that of other authoritarian nations — to impose its will globally. Secret document reveals Russia has same opinion of war as west
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 16:35 |
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my bony fealty posted:That's a good post, it leaves out an important part of the story that's useful for understanding why the US loves the Ukranian Nazis so much. Which is that the OUN never went away, after WW2 and Bandera's death it took a journey to the West, both as part of the greater Ukranian diaspora and in smaller spurts. And as part of international anticomminust organizations. lol just when i thought i had a vague understanding about nazis in ukraine now i gotta digest this. thank you, this is a fascinating and disturbing rabbit hole
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 16:39 |
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Officer Sandvich posted:Secret document reveals Russia has same opinion of war as west Surprised much? Of course not, although proof of ill will is a nice touch. That said, obviously Russia does not grasp the wide reach of sowing discord; that is, reaping the whirlwind once it is sown. Proof of that ill wind that blows. No one good, are the puppet masters pulling the orange useful idiots strings now. Do you really think the rapidly devolving ex prez is anything but a front for the likes of evil doers such as Miller, Brannon, Stone? tRUmp is increasingly showing signs of rapidly advancing dementia.
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 16:41 |
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:It's also easy to forget that Orban was originally their guy, and now the "radical pro-democracy activist" is the next coming of Horthy? Funny how that works. Yeah but Horthy is good now because of the "heroes of 56"
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 16:43 |
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KomradeX posted:Yeah but Horthy is good now because of the "heroes of 56" It's going to drive me insane to see Hungary and Romania get the same makeover as Ukraine. They may as well do the same for Croatia and Bulgaria, honestly, it's not like most people even know they were in the Axis.
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 16:45 |
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:Shedohod
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 16:51 |
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:It's going to drive me insane to see Hungary and Romania get the same makeover as Ukraine. Aren't there a bunch of Milosevic guys in the current Serbian government lol. Or is Serbia still an enemy because they uh didn't send enough guns or didn't sanction Russia or whatever
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 16:53 |
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genericnick posted:what do they die of though? Elan deficiency
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 16:57 |
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Not So Fast posted:I find it funny how the USA is the only player here when the EU is right next door and supposedly next on the list after Ukraine? https://twitter.com/EricProlet/status/1780612814551536028
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 16:57 |
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European industry
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 16:58 |
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lol the Nordic “countries”
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 16:59 |
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KomradeX posted:Yeah but Horthy is good now because of the "heroes of 56" Bela Kun ftw
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 17:01 |
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Not So Fast posted:https://twitter.com/PolyglotFella/status/1779309189208170942?t=7KZ6x4OTUpwAQr4DDIozbA&s=19 huh its almost as if the motivation of the united states for arming ukraine in this conflict had nothing to do with belief that the post maidan government in ukraine was engaging russia from a position of moral superiority
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 17:03 |
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Also, it kind of ignores that a bunch of missiles clearly went though and the Western press is really quiet about it.
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 17:07 |
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# ? Jun 8, 2024 09:31 |
my bony fealty posted:That's a good post, it leaves out an important part of the story that's useful for understanding why the US loves the Ukranian Nazis so much. Which is that the OUN never went away, after WW2 and Bandera's death it took a journey to the West, both as part of the greater Ukranian diaspora and in smaller spurts. And as part of international anticomminust organizations. oun folks end up in the strangest places, like wuhan china researching coronaviruses for nih grants that are definitely NOT bioweapons programs
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# ? Apr 17, 2024 17:19 |