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sullat posted:Yeah my kids get free lunch from an expanded Department of Agriculture program. It used to be that you had to apply for it but now (thanks Trump) if the overall income level at your school is low enough everyone there gets free lunch and breakfast. Are you talking about this program? https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/h...viding%20meals. Federal support for it ended under Biden. Now you might be in one of the minority of states that do have it, like NY and Colorado. But it depends on the state and afaik state support. Thanks Biden! E: ah my bad you said lunches. Yeah depending on your income you get it for free at participating schools through CEP depending on your income quote:Any student in a participating school can get an NSLP lunch. Students from households with incomes: At or below 130 percent of the Federal poverty line can receive a free lunch. Between 130 and 185 percent of the Federal poverty line can receive a reduced-price lunch Pretty sure it wasn't means tested during the bump up during the Trump administration but I don't have a kid. Either way this sucks. Shageletic has issued a correction as of 12:00 on Apr 18, 2024 |
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:I was just at a conference where someone presented a paper on spiritual care in hospitals, and said he was surprised that the hospitals' policies adhere to the written doctrine of their faiths, the argument being that we have to take people just as seriously when they believe in idiosyncratic volkish woo woo because they had an incomplete catechesis, as opposed to providing care their faith proscribes. Um, I don't know. I would say I'm questioning. I was raised Catholic, like, did all the sacraments. Sebastian was actually my saint's name before it was my son's name. And then I sort of did the teen-questioning thing of everything. I had a great Eastern Religions class in high school. We had a great teacher, Irv Steinfink, who showed us Groundhog Day because he said this is the best example of a bodhisattva. This is a guy living life over and over again until he learns something, and he gets to go on to the next day. And I was like, "poo poo, I didn't know Groundhog Day was that deep." I don't go to church, but at the same time religion keeps popping up in my work. You know? I'm not religious, but Abuela Claudia in In the Heights is. I'm not religious, but Hamilton really leaned on religion during some of the trauma of his later years. So that's my answer. I don't consider myself religious, but at the same time it keeps popping up on me.
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:I was just at a conference where someone presented a paper on spiritual care in hospitals, and said he was surprised that the hospitals' policies adhere to the written doctrine of their faiths, the argument being that we have to take people just as seriously when they believe in idiosyncratic volkish woo woo because they had an incomplete catechesis, as opposed to providing care their faith proscribes. Them: we don't want to provide material care to people because that has real costs associated with it, but we found this really neat way to get them to be happy about not receiving material care! You: Wait, but that isn't how you provide proper spiritual care to people. Them: ??? You: ??? The issue is that you think they are trying to achieve one end (helping people) while they are actually trying to achieve another end (saving money by not helping people and getting away with it). The goal is for the patient to go away and not come back, with the lowest cost possible, not to help them become less ill. Did they say anything about how AI can provide spiritual care for a fraction of the cost of a traditional spiritual practicianer? Because I'd bet good money they have that proposal written up whether they shared it with you or not.
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Lin Manuel-Turtle posted:Um, I don't know. I would say I'm questioning. I was raised Catholic, like, did all the sacraments. Sebastian was actually my saint's name before it was my son's name. And then I sort of did the teen-questioning thing of everything. I had a great Eastern Religions class in high school. We had a great teacher, Irv Steinfink, who showed us Groundhog Day because he said this is the best example of a bodhisattva. This is a guy living life over and over again until he learns something, and he gets to go on to the next day. And I was like, "poo poo, I didn't know Groundhog Day was that deep." I don't go to church, but at the same time religion keeps popping up in my work. You know? I'm not religious, but Abuela Claudia in In the Heights is. I'm not religious, but Hamilton really leaned on religion during some of the trauma of his later years. So that's my answer. I don't consider myself religious, but at the same time it keeps popping up on me.
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HazCat posted:Them: we don't want to provide material care to people because that has real costs associated with it, but we found this really neat way to get them to be happy about not receiving material care! That's uncanny, because at the reception they were talking about this being a great way to meet mental health needs of patients. A sort of work around of the waitlists for mental health in the province, which I pointed out had destroyed the military chaplaincy when they tried that trick during Afghanistan. They had hoped that they could send soldiers to the padre instead of mental health because then they wouldn't have to go on medical category, and related, because visits to the padre have confidentiality, there's no stats. Only, it burned through the chaplaincy who could not possibly be asked to take on the mental heath crisis going on with no support, and without the ability to provide clinical care or prescribe medication, it was like 20 minute talk therapy using a modality that, unlike CBT or whatever, requires a belief system to operate through - and still is not a way to treat OSIs. This was somehow interpreted backwards as the CAF needed to "secularize" the chaplaincy so they don't talk about God (never mind the other religions represented), which on top of being the formless woo woo typical of Canadian liberalism, is pretty obviously just a way to keep doing what they're doing in finding a cheap, unrecorded way to not deal with mental health issues, but without getting angry phone calls from Anglican and Catholic bishops when word gets out. When I pointed out that the recent language of the military investigating being more open minded and respecting traditions outside the established religions, really they were trying to find candidates without the required Masters of Divinity, and without a religious body to complain to, he said he was trying to encourage the same thing, though again he framed it in terms of the structures of organized religions not respecting the diversity of views, and someone shouldn't need a masters of divinity. If they don't have a masters of divinity it's easy enough to get them certified in what they need to work in the hospital system (whatever that means). and when I told this story, it's like I made the opposite impression from what I intended, so... e: I should mention, I didn't follow-up, in the slides it talked about how the spiritual health care team, with the pompous educations in theology and bound to these stuffy rules, have been slowing down the process of rationing, since they're consulted on that, and cases where MAiD is being considered, and apparently either have, or there's a fear of, talked patients who had otherwise agreed to the hospital's treatment plans out of them.  ee: I suppose this is more agreeable, but it was pointed out that Hasidic rabbis get in the way of organ donations by informing patients that have otherwise agreed that organ donation falls under some obscure (to me) Hasidic rules and is forbidden. Similarly, everybody knows about Jehovah's Witnesses and Christian Scientists refusing care, and donations, it makes the newspaper every now and then. I agree in principle that it would be good for the province if we had more donors, but, it's hardly a representative of their religion "getting in the way" of a healthy lung or kidney if they inform the patient that their faith forbids it right? Their responsibility is the spirit of the patient, not the organ? DJJIB-DJDCT has issued a correction as of 12:49 on Apr 18, 2024 |
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Yeah there's a bunch of health policy papers about this, Organ Donation and the Ars Moriendi "Organ donation is rightly understood as a gift that is a genuine act of love. Organ donation as an act of love requires it to be an act of freedom that honors the integrity of the human person who is in the process of dying. However, the process of organ donation, by necessity, inserts a third party of interest whose primary aim is to assist someone other than the dying person. Caregivers can become “organ focused” instead of “patient focused.” The procurement of organs potentially results in the commodification of the potential organ donor. Furthermore, death is not a momentary event but rather an ontological change in the person where the union of body and soul becomes divided. This Catholic understanding of death is important to assess the impact of organ donation on the process of dying. Family members of organ donors often have traumatic memories associated with the organ donation process, potentially overshadowing the ars moriendi—the art of dying." My eyebrow is raised because this shouldn't be a problem, the Church doesn't just support, it encourages organ donation. So, it seems like it's not the spiritual care getting in the way at all (with this specific denomination), but as you say, "The issue is that you think they are trying to achieve one end (helping people) while they are actually trying to achieve another end (saving money by not helping people and getting away with it). The goal is for the patient to go away and not come back, with the lowest cost possible, not to help them become less ill."
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give yourself Havana Syndrome by getting angry online
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I do think Harris could win the election if Biden died by the end of May.
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Gripweed posted:I do think Harris could win the election if Biden died by the end of May. I don't
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If God is real, there's no way He said "ok I'm going to make this one family of horrible inbred Germans my supreme governors on Earth", so Anglicanism is one of the very few religions out there we can know for certain is fake. Therfore I don't see why what any random patient thinks Anglicanism is is any worse than what King Charles Saxe-Coburg-Gotha III thinks. You're already doing what the patient wants anyway, might as well just do it then rather than insisting they're supposed to want whatever Henry Tudor said to get some snatch.
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Gripweed posted:I do think Harris could win the election if Biden died by the end of May. I can't believe how excited Gripweed is about the Biden-Harris campaign!!!
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Goa Tse-tung posted:I don't It would turn the age thing from Biden's biggest weakness to Trump's. But it has to be early enough that Harris feels like the candidate by the election. If Biden dies too late she'll still feel like the replacement in November
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VitalSigns posted:If God is real, there's no way He said "ok I'm going to make this one family of horrible inbred Germans my supreme governors on Earth", so Anglicanism is one of the very few religions out there we can know for certain is fake. lol saving this
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A loving tour de force of democrat propaganda. If you like Beyonce, you have to like Kamala. quote:Although the vice president wasn't far behind the superstar when it comes to favorability, there were twice as many voters who held an unfavorable opinion of Harris, 52 percent to 26 percent. 
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Am I having a stroke? "The vice president is almost as popular as Beyonce, but one is far more unpopular than the other" Are they treating popularity and unpopularity as two totally unrelated things?
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:Am I having a stroke? yes and yes
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in high school I was one of the most popular students if you polled my 5 friends who liked me
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:"The vice president is almost as popular as Beyonce, but one is far more unpopular than the other" This sounds like one of those logic puzzles. "The vice president is almost as popular as Beyonce, but one is far more unpopular than the other. Which is more popular?".
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FF is right, the results imply there are people out there with both a favorable and unfavorable opinion of Harris. 
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So Biden clearly can't do debates at this point. But is he even campaigning to open audiences? This time in the cycle for 2020 he was challenging people at these events to push up contests like every other day. I guess they actually (pretended) to have a primary last time.
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The Sean posted:So Biden clearly can't do debates at this point. But is he even campaigning to open audiences? This time in the cycle for 2020 he was challenging people at these events to push up contests like every other day. can't do open audiences because there's too many Palestine protesters and chanting 'four more years' at people saying 'stop the genocide' looks unfathomably bad to squishy liberals
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Goa Tse-tung posted:I don't
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PoontifexMacksimus posted:The one who made that Tweet blames Barthes (and to be fair to the Ukraine-and-Taiwan-flag-haver "death of the author" is some very annoying poo poo to always have to wade through): what this nerd bitch talking about
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:can't do open audiences because there's too many Palestine protesters and chanting 'four more years' at people saying 'stop the genocide' looks unfathomably bad to squishy liberals Lol good point
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/GoodVibePolitik/status/1780759099786887185?t=CaIJJWXpSbOPdgmI1OhgAg&s=19 Dumb Shits of America
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I crunched the numbers so yall don’t have to. here is computer simulation of Biden aging during his next term 2024-2028
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Gripweed posted:I do think Harris could win the election if Biden died by the end of May. There is definitely some magic sweet spot of post-death sympathy votes and pre-exposure Harris hatred, that results in Democratic victory. That said, I think May is too much Harris exposure.
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Nothus posted:FF is right, the results imply there are people out there with both a favorable and unfavorable opinion of Harris. I think she's loving hilarious (favorable) but would gnaw my own leg off rather than vote for her (unfavorable) and I really think her being on the Supreme Court would be good (favorable) for nihilistic comedy (unfavorable)
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Nichael posted:There is definitely some magic sweet spot of post-death sympathy votes and pre-exposure Harris hatred, that results in Democratic victory. That said, I think May is too much Harris exposure. My guess is Canuck Thanksgiving You get her boost from the mourning and funeral, October surprise is already to fire for a corpse and useless, and Harris can avoid a lot with 2 of the four weeks in funeral stuff.
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Ok but seriously, I don't see how you can respect everyone's religious beliefs, implicitly accepting that their religion is a personal belief and not an objective truth that controls where their souls end up, but then also insist that you're a better judge of their beliefs than they are and you have to override their beliefs and do it "right" to save their soul. That just makes no sense to me. It seems like you should either: Pick the religion you think is the objective truth and treat everyone with that to save their very real souls regardless of what they want. Sorry, Islam is fake, and your soul is on the line so here's the last rights in God's native language: English OR Respect their beliefs by actually respecting their beliefs whatever they are. This third thing where you respect their beliefs, unless you think they're doing their religion wrong, then you stop respecting what they want and do what you think they're supposed to believe instead, and justify this by saying only this specific Anglican ritual will save their soul (but you'd do a different ritual if they say they're Catholic or Jewish) is not very logical imo. VitalSigns has issued a correction as of 14:17 on Apr 18, 2024 |
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The Sean posted:So Biden clearly can't do debates at this point. But is he even campaigning to open audiences? This time in the cycle for 2020 he was challenging people at these events to push up contests like every other day. No. Also, nope the push-up contests stopped and he went into basement isolation in March 2020. StealthArcher posted:My guess is Canuck Thanksgiving Yes, I think it's roughly four or five weeks at most.
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mags posted:I crunched the numbers so yall don’t have to. here is computer simulation of Biden aging during his next term 2024-2028 mfw when someone tells me to vote for Biden
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