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BrotherJayne
Nov 28, 2019

Hexel posted:

Wanna make my cock explode?

"Really?"
*pause*
"Oops."
*glances around*
"Uh, is someone... gonna check on that guy?"

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Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

Show's pretty good but I don't buy Maximus and Lucy as a thing at all, they had their moment and I was just like huh.

Also we need more energy weapons in S2.

golden bubble
Jun 3, 2011

yospos

counterfeitsaint posted:

It's been a long time since I played Fallout 2, but from what I can remember, it was really just the military industrial complex that were the bad guys. Vault-Tec, various elements of the government, particularly the intelligence agencies, several other companies, were all so intertwined that they might as well have just been one entity. I have no idea how anyone could dream up such an unrealistic concept, something like that could never happen for real! They built the vaults to be social experiments, and then built a tricked out Oil Rig in the middle of the ocean. It did technically pump petroleum up from the last known deposit in the deep pacific, but it also had everything they'd need, heavy industrial facilities, science labs, etc. The Enclave can trace their roots back, in an unbroken line, to the actual US Government.

You blow up their oil rig in Fallout 2, and because the faction is recognizable, they magically cross the country to be badguys again in Fallout 3, where they are once again destroyed. They're still around in the show because it's a thing people recognize.

The Enclave is the direct descendent of the military industrial complex and the US Government. It would honestly be more unrealistic for them to have only one secret base for surviving nuclear armageddon. Realistically there should also be an Alaskan Enclave and and Hawaiian Enclave and Texan Enclave and even a Canadian Enclave, because Fallout US annexed Canada before the nuclear war happened.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
There's an Enclave base in Chicago and there's mention of a BOS chapter thst went rogue there as well. Maybe that's where Siggi was coming from.

BrotherJayne
Nov 28, 2019

Yardbomb posted:

Show's pretty good but I don't buy Maximus and Lucy as a thing at all, they had their moment and I was just like huh.

... they were adorable.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Arc Hammer posted:

There's an Enclave base in Chicago and there's mention of a BOS chapter thst went rogue there as well. Maybe that's where Siggi was coming from.

The BOS chapter is a reference to Fallout Tactics, which is quasi-canon--they've referenced a bunch of parts of it in later Fallouts but the main plot has some issues fitting into the setting.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Grand Fromage posted:

The BOS chapter is a reference to Fallout Tactics, which is quasi-canon--they've referenced a bunch of parts of it in later Fallouts but the main plot has some issues fitting into the setting.

The plot of Tactics is tricky to fit in, sure but the Enclave base is definitely extant at some point between Fallout 3 and New Vegas because ED-E made a pit stop there on his way from DC to Navarro. The Brotherhood out east also re-absorbed the outcasts from 3 by the time FO4 happens so maybe they've also picked up the Chicago chapter too by the time the show happens. Maybe the Chicago BOS were the ones who tipped everyone off about Siggi fleeing the Enclave.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

I'm a girl, and you're
gnomes, and it's like
what? Yikes.
In Tactics the BoS end up with deathclaws and ghouls and even supermutants in their ranks. I don't see Maxson taking too kindly to any of them.

Aurubin
Mar 17, 2011

I haven't seen it brought up but I really liked the BoS cleric, in as much as he was a piece of poo poo. That said, it was neat watching him manipulate? Max into giving up the location of the bubble fusion McGuffin. I'm bad at reading people to begin with, but I think he sounded sincere? Just that the BoS sucks, so obviously them having cold fusion isn't in the long-term benefit of anyone not in the BoS of course.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Arc Hammer posted:

The plot of Tactics is tricky to fit in, sure but the Enclave base is definitely extant at some point between Fallout 3 and New Vegas because ED-E made a pit stop there on his way from DC to Navarro. The Brotherhood out east also re-absorbed the outcasts from 3 by the time FO4 happens so maybe they've also picked up the Chicago chapter too by the time the show happens. Maybe the Chicago BOS were the ones who tipped everyone off about Siggi fleeing the Enclave.

Maybe. I like the idea of never really talking about them so there's just this weird poo poo going on out in the middle of nowhere and no one knows details.

Anyway: yay. Season 2 official.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/fallout-renewed-season-2-amazon-1235873331/

roomtone
Jul 1, 2021

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 7 days!)

Aurubin posted:

I haven't seen it brought up but I really liked the BoS cleric, in as much as he was a piece of poo poo. That said, it was neat watching him manipulate? Max into giving up the location of the bubble fusion McGuffin. I'm bad at reading people to begin with, but I think he sounded sincere? Just that the BoS sucks, so obviously them having cold fusion isn't in the long-term benefit of anyone not in the BoS of course.

yeah that elder had some gravitas. i don't recognise the actor but it feels like i should.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


roomtone posted:

yeah that elder had some gravitas. i don't recognise the actor but it feels like i should.

He was Philip Price in Mr Robot. Not sure what else he's been in.

Hexel
Nov 18, 2011




Show was great. I only ever played Fallout 4 for a bit so I didn’t go into it with nerd lore baggage.

Creepy, weird, vault plot twists are kinda interesting. All of the wasteland factions are cool and interesting.

TBH who gives a poo poo about the plot as long as Goggins delivers sick one-liners and smokes fools :clint:

Back Hack
Jan 17, 2010


golden bubble posted:

The Enclave is the direct descendent of the military industrial complex and the US Government. It would honestly be more unrealistic for them to have only one secret base for surviving nuclear armageddon. Realistically there should also be an Alaskan Enclave and and Hawaiian Enclave and Texan Enclave and even a Canadian Enclave, because Fallout US annexed Canada before the nuclear war happened.

Back when Black Isle was making their version of Fallout 3 before Interplay imploded, there was stuff that heavily implied that Enclave successful established a stellar base somewhere (probably on the moon or something) before bombs fell and they could return one day. Doubt Beth would ever put Space Enclave in though, and I'm even less confident that could pull off such a concept without being extremely corny and goofy.


Could they not find a better picture than Max being angry? lol

Back Hack fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Apr 19, 2024

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

zoux posted:

I think he was sick of being persecuted for his scientific curiosities.

e: oh, what was your guys' favorite joke in the series?

When Lucy gets evicted from the vault and they say she can take 2 weeks worth of supplies, and she says "can I ask something" and the overseer says "yes obviously someone will carry the supplies up for you"

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
My favorite joke isn't a joke but the Ghoul saying "your daddy was the first on the grill with a bib" conjured up the image of agent Cooper in a vault suit with a bib.

Accipiter
Jan 24, 2004

SINATRA.
I with Seizure's Luncheon.

Dongicus
Jun 12, 2015

episode 1

the guy from the shield plotline

This is cool. i like this actor.

vault plotline

this is pretty good. i think the vault dweller stuff is a little dull for a fan of the series but its a good hook for the plot. i think the actor is good.

brotherhood of steel plot line



epic power armor



fallout 4 brotherhood ship



the enclave zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAa-394U4zc

Vinylshadow
Mar 20, 2017

https://twitter.com/falloutonprime/status/1781095366315888903

I hope ED-E shows up

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

thebardyspoon posted:

I enjoyed most of the individual scenes of this show but the larger plot utterly falls apart if you think about it for a second. So Moldaver is implied to have been in love with Rose, Lucys mom and also wants to finish off her pre war lifes goal of cold fusion, with the latter presumably being more important than honoring the former.

So, using Roses pip-boy, she breaks into Vault 32 where the populace has found out about the vault stuff I guess and killed themselves? Like the one guy has a fork stuck in a toaster and such, nobody else did that. They hid in that vault for awhile pretending everything was good to Vault 33 (while also not cleaning it up so that Norm and Chet can have their spooky discovery adventure that then gets cleaned up in a single night) and then say that they need to trade some supplies and suggest a trade for a husband for Lucy. 31 and 33 have no way of verifying this despite the whole thing being 31 are all secretly management who have a huge amount of leeway, responsibility and power, or at least think they do (this part at least works because Vault-Tec is like that).

Anyway, the reveal in the end of the show is that Moldaver and presumably large amounts of her crew are NCR remnants to some degree, they and she are fine to be murdering the gently caress out of random vault dwellers who aren't management and Lucy, the daughter of someone she seems to have cared alot about being raped (since she's not in full knowledge of the facts that this guy isn't who he says he is) and probably murdered? Since his immediate response to her realising he's irradiated is to try and murder her.

Moldaver is incredibly lucky but doesn't acknowledge it in retrospect that Lucy kills the guy rather than being murdered by him, then when she comes face to face with Lucy, she opts to just kidnap Hank and torture him for the code she needs I guess, and not to take Lucy at that point when that would be very good leverage, she also doesn't kill any of the other vault 31ers there either. She also decides not to pop along to the nearby town the dude carrying her entire lifes work is going to be at a few days later to provide escort for him? She then goes back to her observatory base and waits for..... something? Lucy arriving feels like it should be a huge surprise to her but she acts kinda like it was something she's expecting but that's insane.


I don't think that character was supposed to be good person in a contemporary way. She is just driven. The Vault Dwellers in the tri-vault-area destroyed her home and turned her lover into a shambling zombie. As far as she knows, in episode one theres no idea of who is being paired off with who. She just knows that Hank is the overseer of the Vault, is one of Bud's Buds and therefore has the access codes to unlock clean fusion. As far as she is concerned, Lucy is one of those vault dwellers who are just collateral.

boo boo bear
Oct 1, 2009

I'm COMPLETELY OBSESSED with SEXY EGGS

Sharkopath
May 27, 2009

Yardbomb posted:

Show's pretty good but I don't buy Maximus and Lucy as a thing at all, they had their moment and I was just like huh.

Also we need more energy weapons in S2.

They're two naive kids entwined by fate. One was giving an upbringing that inadvertently prepared them to survive on the surface and the other is just holding on to whatever they can as they discover who they really are. Both are out here really just looking for love and home and the place they belong and they recognize it in each other.

I think they have a ton of chemistry, I'm a big fan.

Sharkopath fucked around with this message at 02:13 on Apr 19, 2024

GoatSeeGuy
Dec 26, 2003

What if Jerome Walton made me a champion?



You misspelled Fisto.

Compendium
Jun 18, 2013

M-E-J-E-D
Binged the show, liked it a lot. Never played the games, just listened to lore videos while drawing and crafting so I liked the show capturing the vibe of exploring the Wastelands and finding and getting involved in apocalyptic BS that people have described in the games.

I didn't really feel the romance had enough time to build up enough chemistry so that part was my least favorite, everything else was solid 8/10.

covidstomper58
Nov 8, 2020

I hope Lucy uses her repair skill to get a car running. And Max doesn't like it because he can't sit in it with his power armor unless he sits in the trunk with it open or something.

So much mileage they could get out of this.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Best Fallout Lore videos are the ShoddyCast's The Storyteller series.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
🍀👽🆚🪖🏋

Fallout 76 is the best one because it has the mothman and the flatwoods monster in it. I caught just a glimpse of the flatwoods and my heart was racing. I’ve become a paranormal investigator now looking for these amazing cryptids

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
Episode 7:

the severed heads kissing. Incredible! Who comes up with this stuff

Dongicus
Jun 12, 2015

episode 3 finished. maybe i'll come back to it, but it's just not for me. it isn't outright bad by any measure but its just not possible for me to watch this and not think about how much cooler fallout 1 and new vegas are. farewell.

Dongicus
Jun 12, 2015

Dongicus posted:

Looks like poo poo

Red Rox
Aug 24, 2004

Motel Midnight off the hook
Turn on your pipboy

Booty Pageant
Apr 20, 2012
oh yeah... how the hell do you drm what was basically a nuclear reaction???? vault tec is truly evil

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
Just finished. Great writing. They’re juggling so many plot lines and made them all crescendo in a satisfying way at the same time. Impressive stuff.

Wee Bairns
Feb 10, 2004

Jack Tripper's wingman.

Steve Yun posted:

Episode 7:

the severed heads kissing. Incredible! Who comes up with this stuff

Such a dumb, fun sight gag, one of so many littered within the run.

BrotherJayne
Nov 28, 2019

Sharkopath posted:

They're two naive kids entwined by fate. One was giving an upbringing that inadvertently prepared them to survive on the surface and the other is just holding on to whatever they can as they discover who they really are. Both are out here really just looking for love and home and the place they belong and they recognize it in each other.

I think they have a ton of chemistry, I'm a big fan.

Well put

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat


Wanna also say I appreciate the cinematography and lighting. Such wonderful color in every shot, such deep black shadows.

Edit: as things heat up in the climax, warm colors fill the screen. When the climax is over, it gives way to cooler colors. Great stuff

Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 06:26 on Apr 19, 2024

BrotherJayne
Nov 28, 2019


Post/Username combo, impeccable

Compendium
Jun 18, 2013

M-E-J-E-D
Barok would totally be that guy about Fallout lore and games

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
I feel like the only weak link in this show is maybe the stunt work and action directing. The way the armors move around looks like robot cosplay instead of convincing powered suits

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Ralph Crammed In
May 11, 2007

Let's get clean and smart


The production crew really nailed the game's (Fallout 4) aesthetic. I noticed you would see the imprints of individual lumber pieces from the wooden forms they used to pour the concrete for the walls in the Vault, which is also something I noticed in the game.

I am curious to see how Fallout 4's aesthetic looks in New Vegas, as they are noticeably different what with being on different console generations.

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