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PhilippAchtel
May 31, 2011

https://twitter.com/bluepashminas/status/1781130409213837335

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Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

mags posted:

Biden only gets pissed when a woman tells him “no”

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

The Oldest Man posted:

the other 91% is automated sniper rifles to shoot kids in the knees and quadcopters with guns on them to mow down people at an emergency food distribution point

I could dig around for the papers on this, but yeah, it's deceptive.

The US subsidizes Israel thrice over: By providing all of the industry intensive parts of the Israeli military, and munitions, their basic equipment needs are met, so they can focus on high tech goods exclusively, which they then turn around and sell on the global arms market - including selling these heavily subsidized high tech items back to the US via IAI, Elbit Systems and Rafael. The US essentially pays Israel to sell arms abroad, crowding US firms out of the market, and because they're subsidized, undercutting US suppliers for American procurement as well.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017




DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

The US pays Israel to have a fart app based economy, essentially. Which feeds into the Israeli sense of superiority about being knowledge workers and entrepreneurs as well, but that's all underwritten by US taxpayers money.

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

quote:

If anything at all can stop the path we’re on, it’s voting.



You are 100% correct, but most people aren't going to like the timeframe: It took the right-wing 40 years of chain voting to remove abortion rights, and it may very well take 40 years of chain voting in the other direction to fix it.

That means...showing up for every election (including non-presidential ones!). For 40 years. It is unfortunate that many on the left get angry when they show up once a decade and everything they want isn't instantly implemented.

Trabisnikof has issued a correction as of 17:12 on Apr 19, 2024

Excelzior
Jun 24, 2013

Trabisnikof posted:

You are 100% correct, but most people aren't going to like the timeframe: It took the right-wing 40 years of chain voting to remove abortion rights, and it may very well take 40 years of chain voting in the other direction to fix it.

That means...showing up for every election (including non-presidential ones!). For 40 years. It is unfortunate that many on the left get angry when they show up once a decade and everything they wa

man if only the democrats had done literally anything to make Roe v Wade an actual law during this giant span of time

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things

*jerking off motion*

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

The US pays Israel to have a fart app based economy, essentially. Which feeds into the Israeli sense of superiority about being knowledge workers and entrepreneurs as well, but that's all underwritten by US taxpayers money.
Should I say it? I'm not supposed to say it. I'm going to say it. Israel is not a technology leader.

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

Excelzior posted:

man if only the democrats had done literally anything to make Roe v Wade an actual law during this giant span of time

It was a strategic retreat. Now the conservatives are right where they want them. In a brisk 40 years the libs will have sprung the pincer attack and carried the field :smug:

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Excelzior posted:

man if only the democrats had done literally anything to make Roe v Wade an actual law during this giant span of time

but then how could they threaten voters with it? it's like you know nothing about democracy

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer

silicone thrills posted:

*jerking off motion*

https://x.com/TheDemocrats/status/1781330692263043288

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



Excelzior posted:

man if only the democrats had done literally anything to make Roe v Wade an actual law during this giant span of time

Sorry, sweaty, but you can only appreciate things after we fail to lift a finger to preserve them for you.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
What's with the "sweaty" thing and can we please stop

As an alternative to not doing it any more, could someone please explain to me why it's funny

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

Trabisnikof posted:

You are 100% correct, but most people aren't going to like the timeframe: It took the right-wing 40 years of chain voting to remove abortion rights, and it may very well take 40 years of chain voting in the other direction to fix it.

That means...showing up for every election (including non-presidential ones!). For 40 years. It is unfortunate that many on the left get angry when they show up once a decade and everything they want isn't instantly implemented.

Such as? Also challenge mode: it has to adhere to the rule of law and the principles of liberal democracy.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008


and ANN B. DAVIS as PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

Halloween Jack posted:

What's with the "sweaty" thing and can we please stop

As an alternative to not doing it any more, could someone please explain to me why it's funny

I'm fairly sure it's just a typo joke directed at condescending dems calling people sweety when they're explaining why we have to vote for a senile genocidal rapist

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Halloween Jack posted:

What's with the "sweaty" thing and can we please stop

As an alternative to not doing it any more, could someone please explain to me why it's funny

liberals used to talk down to people like children(and still do but less in this specific way) and used "sweetie" a lot except they couldn't spell it

ex post facho
Oct 25, 2007

Trabisnikof posted:

You are 100% correct, but most people aren't going to like the timeframe: It took the right-wing 40 years of chain voting to remove abortion rights, and it may very well take 40 years of chain voting in the other direction to fix it.

That means...showing up for every election (including non-presidential ones!). For 40 years. It is unfortunate that many on the left get angry when they show up once a decade and everything they want isn't instantly implemented.



silicone thrills posted:

*jerking off motion*

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
Thank you. I, like, thought there was more of a story to it than that. But I also used to be unfamiliar with forums user Nichael.

ex post facho
Oct 25, 2007

Excelzior
Jun 24, 2013

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

luv2shit
May 15, 2023

ex post facho
Oct 25, 2007

Uncle Wemus posted:

I'm fairly sure it's just a typo joke directed at condescending dems calling people sweety when they're explaining why we have to vote for a senile genocidal rapist

It's a gaming thing, used to refer to people who take their games super seriously and without much capacity for effacing are known as "sweaties" or "sweaty", mainly due to the sweating produced from the excessive concentration on "doing good"~ is how I understand it

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

ex post facho posted:

It's a gaming thing, used to refer to people who take their games super seriously and without much capacity for effacing are known as "sweaties" or "sweaty", mainly due to the sweating produced from the excessive concentration on "doing good"~ is how I understand it

it's both

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011


one problem with these kinds of intellectual exercises is that if you take the position that all cultural beliefs should be respected without needing to understand what they are and how they work or why they exist you naturally stop being skeptical of stories that seem obviously absurd because the exact logic of why a culture behaves the way that it does isnt relevant if this respect is supposed to be unconditional so you just take any claim at face value

in this particularly case for example the obvious question being begged is do japanese samurai actually bisect random people in half solely to test samurai swords or is this verb assuming it even exists supposed to have a more metaphorical meaning and if japanese samurai did actually do that was this consistent throughout the entire samurai era or did commoners start complaining at some point because of how hard it was to get any work done when samurai sword testers could kill laborers at random with impunity

in this way while respect for the idea of random murder as a means of samurai sword testing can seem on its face to be antiracist the complete lack of rigor applied to interrogating the belief actually does the exact opposite namely encouraging reflexive unthinking stereotypes about how life is cheap in the orient without stopping to consider whether the important part of this story that may or may not even be true is that the samurai were japanese as opposed to their having an exalted class marker their being japanese suggests that random murder as a means of samurai sword testing is just a weird quirk irrelevant to people in more civilized cultures but a focus on the samurais exalted class marker begs the question of whether other cultures such as ourselves with similar exalted class markers might also be engaging in similar behavior just not in such an exotic alien sounding way

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007
those two things happened basically concurrently with each other, it's like Jamaica Queens not actually being named after Jamaica the island

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Excelzior posted:

man if only the democrats had done literally anything to make Roe v Wade an actual law during this giant span of time

quote:

If you are advocating any form of totalitarianism, I don't think there's much to discuss. That's anathema to 99 percent of Americans, and to me personally.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

Trabisnikof posted:

You are 100% correct, but most people aren't going to like the timeframe: It took the right-wing 40 years of chain voting to remove abortion rights, and it may very well take 40 years of chain voting in the other direction to fix it.

That means...showing up for every election (including non-presidential ones!). For 40 years. It is unfortunate that many on the left get angry when they show up once a decade and everything they want isn't instantly implemented.

It's so cool that liberals see legislation that they like as a reward for voting loyally, rather than the other way around.

eviltastic
Feb 8, 2004

Fan of Britches
Lol that bill with the aid for Israel, Ukraine, and the Tiktok ban in it is titled the "21st Century Peace Through Strength Act".

"Build The Hadrian's Wall"

Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005

eviltastic posted:

Lol that bill with the aid for Israel, Ukraine, and the Tiktok ban in it is titled the "21st Century Peace Through Strength Act".

"Build The Hadrian's Wall"

"Speak softly but carry a big stick" was better, IMHO.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



eviltastic posted:

Lol that bill with the aid for Israel, Ukraine, and the Tiktok ban in it is titled the "21st Century Peace Through Strength Act".

"Build The Hadrian's Wall"

Democrats spending more time - in an election year they stand to lose badly, no less - trying to save Speaker Johnson's dumb rear end than their own

SixteenShells
Sep 30, 2021
passing laws is totalitarian

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

Horseshoe theory posted:

"Speak softly but carry a big stick" was better, IMHO.
Little Stick Energy.

luv2shit
May 15, 2023

eviltastic posted:

Lol that bill with the aid for Israel, Ukraine, and the Tiktok ban in it is titled the "21st Century Peace Through Strength Act".

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

eviltastic posted:

Lol that bill with the aid for Israel, Ukraine, and the Tiktok ban in it is titled the "21st Century Peace Through Strength Act".

"Build The Hadrian's Wall"

21st Century Peace Through War And Hiding From A Childrens' Internet App

luv2shit
May 15, 2023

SixteenShells posted:

passing laws is totalitarian

That's anathema to 99 percent of Americans, and to me personally.

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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
code:
https://twitter.com/DrBlobb/status/1781125384538403217

quote:

The Red Star caucus piece does not go far enough in calling out the cringe, and frankly counterrevolutionary, behavior by some DSA members on their delegation to Cuba. As I said earlier, this is of course the work of entryist Trotskyites but oh there is so much more.

Who are the DSA Trots? They are mostly made up of Socialist Alternative members who have decided the best use of their time is to do entryism into the DSA. Originally, they were very public about their intentions, naming their caucus after SA itself.

https://www.socialistalternative.org/caucus/

After a huge backlash from DSA longtimes, they realized they probably needed to be a little sneakier at doing entryism. Enter the Reform & Revolution (R&R) Caucus, founded by a group of entirely former SA members.

In Cuba, R&R member Maria Franzblau wrote that she met with Maykel Vivero, a Cuban "independent journalist and LGBTQ activist." Vivero is the most anti-govt Cuban that she meets with and also the one she spends the most time with, meeting 2 nights in a row

https://reformandrevolution.org/2024/02/17/cuba-between-imperialism-and-socialism/

So who is Vivero? An independent journalist that got his start with the help of the UN & also one of the only journalists brave enough to cover the the persecution of the "San Isidro Movement & its leader Luis Manuel Otero Alcántara." Now here's the kicker

https://www.memoryofnations.eu/en/gonzalez-vivero-maykel-1983



The "San Isidro Movement" is funded by none other than our friends at the NED and USAID.

quote:

code:
https://twitter.com/jeff_kaye/status/1422961191932944388
“leading members of the San Isidro Movement have raked in funding from regime change outfits like the NED & USAID while meeting w/ State Dept officials, U.S. embassy staff in Havana, right-wing European parliamentarians and Latin American coup leaders….”

https://consortiumnews.com/2021/08/03/cubas-us-backed-cultural-counter-revolution/

They are very open about who they are.



Let's not forget that it wasn't just R&R caucus members doing these shenanigans in Cuba. Renee [Paradis, one of the two DSA members who skipped he meeting with President Diaz-Canel] is a Socialist Majority caucus member and DSA longtime and also a member of DSA's governing body, the NPC.

You don't really need to dig this deep to expose these people as frauds. In the piece she wrote herself, Maria makes it a point to end her entire argument with a condemnation of Hamas and the Houthis lmao

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