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Kyrosiris posted:Then again, I don't have a follow-up centric team to really make Aventurine shine in a way that distinguishes him from Gepard. It just feels weird to me to see all this "fu xuan and gepard are bad, thank god I have aventurine" doomposting. It's not doomposting. I've never liked Gepard because his shields are tied to his ult. It's also not "Fu bad", it's my Fu is bad with the relics and builds I have available for her. Which is what I've said every time I've mentioned my particular problems with my Fu on my account in the current MoC. It feels a little disingenuous to make it out like I'm saying she’s bad when I've been singing her praises since she was released. It's only in the current content that I've struggled with her. You're welcome to hop on my account and work with what I have available. This is also the first MoC since Topaz's release that I haven't been able to throw QQ and SW at a problem and have them solve it for me. That doesn't mean "QQ bad" or "mono Quantum bad". It means my builds of those characters are bad. The average speed of my characters is 130. The average crit ratio is 65/130. My Sparkle is in complete rainbow set with 97 crit damage just to reach 160 speed, and I haven't seen any appreciable benefit from that benchmark. I also don't have Huo Huo, Ruan Mei, Black Swan, or Acheron. I'm essentially playing on hard mode compared to half this thread. Tldr; When I complain about a character, I'm complaining about my options with said character. Your characters are not my characters. We have different problems.
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qbert posted:The 2.1 banner characters have been crazy pants. Gotta be the strongest duo of characters in a patch so far, right? And from the leaks, doesn't sound like anything's beating it for a while. Has been crazy since 1.6 really. Ruan Mei is one of the best Harmony units period, Dr. Ratio currently does the best single target damage in the game and he was free. 2.0 gave us Black Swan, who boosted Kafka to being one of the most damaging units in the game and then Sparkle, who can do most things Bronya can do plus generate excess SP. 2.1 gave Acheron, arguably the strongest DPS in the game at the moment and then Aventurine which you know my thoughts on. It’s three patches in a row with some of the best characters in the game.
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Eej posted:I mean we literally have someone on this page asking to what degree how broken he is which itself is hyperbole And I literally spelled out that my Aventurine is under leveled and half built, and yet he's already meeting my needs for a sustain. I'm not sure how that is hyperbole? Like, it was rhetorical. That wasn't clear?
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Bad Video Games posted:The average speed of my characters is 130. Oh no
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Gepard is still way preferable for me with Acheron. With Sparkle he can basically skill whenever he wants to so ult uptime is not an issue and his petal generation is hard to beat. I did have a good Knight set ready to hand down though since I was trying to use March all the way up until last patch. My Aventurine is only 70 and already he is exactly what I wanted for FUA teams. Really feels awesome. But I can’t imagine he would feel great with Trend on an Acheron team compared to Gepard.
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Selenephos posted:I’d argue the only destruction blessing that is good for her is the increase Max HP one though. Most do nothing for her or are actively bad and the Destruction path is the last one you want to take with her to boot. Yeah, I know I sure as heck hate "when you lose HP, get energy", "when you lose HP, gain Fighting Spirit", "get buffs to Defense and Effect Resistance based on percents of HP lost", and "damage taken is reduced by stack of Fighting Spirit". All terrible. Also the Destruction resonance only drains HP if you take that resonance boost. If you're that worried about it, just... don't take 14+ destruction blessings? 
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Genovera posted:Oh no Like I said, loving hard mode. I have literally 2 gloves with speed substats. It just doesn't exist on my account.
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https://twitter.com/hxg_diluc/status/1781366598030520413 not exactly a perfect metric or anything but kind of interesting
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What is holding rate? Is that % of accounts that have him? How would they figure that out?
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self-reporting. thats why they give the 'sample size.' its not a poll of every single account, its using data from an account manager/optimization app. thats why its not at all a perfect metric, but it is still interesting. given that its from an optimization account its biased towards the 'meta' characters, naturally.
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Was already beginning to think myself that the Bronya drop rate is simply higher than all other 5*s. This just proves it.
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Genovera posted:Oh no My Kafka is still on Lightning set with 128 speed. I really need to grind out the DoT/FUA cavern more, I have lots of both DoT and FUA characters, there's just more and more characters I want to build, all the time! My Aventurine is mostly set (oh no, only 3900 DEF, how horrrrible), but now I need to grind out mats for Jingliu to justify all those jades spent on her! at least I can probably get away with trading Ratio's debuff set onto her for a while as long as I always use my E5 Pela + Pearls with her SyntheticPolygon posted:Was already beginning to think myself that the Bronya drop rate is simply higher than all other 5*s. pretty sure that's people using their selector on her if they don't just get her naturally. unless 
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Was already beginning to think myself that the Bronya drop rate is simply higher than all other 5*s.
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Eej posted:e: yeah these results are super skewed, DHIL barely above Jing Yuan in ownership? and DHIL's rerun was the same patch as sparkle's release so if you're a hardcore meta player who didn't have him you were probably better off skipping him for sparkle.
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I dunno, I got two Bronya's in two days this week. There's something going on behind the scenes, I can tell.
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I still haven’t had one Bronya since launch. I do have Argenti though and s1, or in other words “the time I learned to never listen to YouTube hype”. I’m surprised Topaz is that low.
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I'd have rolled for Argenti if I was playing then. He's cool
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rio posted:I still haven’t had one Bronya since launch. I do have Argenti though and s1, or in other words “the time I learned to never listen to YouTube hype”. She was right after Fu Xuan and Jingliu, and people were hyped for Ruan Mei in a couple of patches, so most people skipped her, Huohuo, and Argenti. i'm not most people, in that i skipped Fu and Jingliu for Topaz, then picked up Huohuo because I had also lost my 50/50 on Luocha and desperately needed a limited sustain
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I really like Argenti. I also enjoy pairing him with Sushang. Though with me having everyone but Jing Yuan and Sparkle, the only characters I've come close to regretting rolling are when I went for e2 Silver Wolf and Huohuo. E2 Wolf just doesn't do enough damage to make up for the lost utility of 2 turn ult. And Huohuo just feels awkward for me to use outside of a DoT team, the people I know who really love her have her e1 and I do not.
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Endorph posted:not exactly a perfect metric or anything but kind of interesting I have the ones in green and yellow. Dr. Ratio and standard characters are in yellow because they're a bit different than limited 5* who I pulled for. I would definitely have pulled for Dr Ratio though, I was saving up for a guarantee for him and used it on Kafka instead.  Black Swan, Topaz, and Blade are 3 of my 5 favorite characters (the other two being Aventurine and Dr Ratio). I'm a little surprised they're so unpopular.
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topaz and black swan are sort of enablers for other characters rather than damage dealers themselves so them being lower down makes sense. with how good followup stuff is rn i also imagine topaz's rerun will boost her ownership rate. in blade's case hes more of a sub dps than a main dps and people probably want to roll for main dps and supports and leave that sort of role to just 'whoever can fill that slot if i need it.'
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Endorph posted:whats yours look like? Currently, 3.7k attack, 70/130 crit. 2pc/2pc/2pc Duke, Guard, Salsotto with a Physical orb. E0S1. Her damage just felt lacking in MoC 12, like around 18k follow-ups.
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I refuse to believe less than half the playerbase pulled for the Problematic DoT Women.
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guard is a useless set for her. 2 pc/2 pc is fine but go for streetwise boxing, not guard. besides that, the crit damage could be slightly higher.
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Bussamove posted:I refuse to believe less than half the playerbase pulled for the Problematic DoT Women. I did pull for Kafka but I lost that 50/50.
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Bussamove posted:I refuse to believe less than half the playerbase pulled for the Problematic DoT Women. Well DoT was considered a niche build for a long time basically until Black Swan came out and suddenly it became the #1 meta team. ...until Acheron.
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Just barely managed to clear this MoC12 in time after trying a few different teams. Wound up using Fu/Kafka/Ruan Mei/Serval on first side, and Sparkle/Clara/Aventurine/Topaz on the second. Clara worked out spectacularly well, was a noticeable improvement over using my Jingliu or forcing quantum weakness with Seele.
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Endorph posted:guard is a useless set for her. 2 pc/2 pc is fine but go for streetwise boxing, not guard. besides that, the crit damage could be slightly higher. My Guard set has the best stats. 22% Crit Dam on the face and 22% Crit Rate on a Crit Dam chest. Switching her over to the Streetwise set is a significant downgrade in stats. My Streetwise set sucks. It's only moderately useful on Argenti because of his Talent and lc.
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I just use a cracked Longevous Disciple set myself on Clara, it feels pretty good since she gets hit enough that is up most of the time. But yeah it's not worth switching to a different set if the substats are garbage.
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I pulled on Luocha right before his banner ended. Huge night and day difference to my team. It feels incredible when Black Swan eats a huge hit that imprisons her and brings her down to 10% health then he instantly heals her to full and cleanses her off-turn for 0 sp. His upper trace makes him basically immune to most CC. Removing enemy buffs is very nice for the healing and resurrecting mara-struck assholes. Plus, his technique generates a bed of beautiful flowers so you know there's no way he could be a bad man.
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