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suikoden 1 and 2 are such that most of the frustrations to be had with them are also core to their design ethos and appeal and not like, glaring flaws that demand to be fixed so it makes sense they'd seek to maintain all that
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The Colonel posted:suikoden 1 and 2 are such that most of the frustrations to be had with them are also core to their design ethos and appeal and not like, glaring flaws that demand to be fixed so it makes sense they'd seek to maintain all that Yeah, and it's appreciated, genuinely. There's absolutely a world in which Eiyuden is a smoother and more frictionless experience and I don't blame anyone for wanting that, but at least for me this is specifically the exact thing I wanted. I'm hoping I continue to enjoy it/it doesn't crap the bed
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Apr 20, 2024 17:56
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How many characters can you miss because you didn't talk to a certain person in a five minute window?
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Apr 20, 2024 18:01
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Sakurazuka posted:How many characters can you miss because you didn't talk to a certain person in a five minute window? So far none but I wouldn't be surprised. That said the window for recruitments do seem fairly wide. I know I missed one on my first time through a town before the town got captured, but I was able to go back after it was captured and recruit the character anyway, they just had different dialogue.
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Apr 20, 2024 18:03
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18 hours in on Eiyuden slow start, but game is good    Discord says a patch is supposedly going up today by 5pm (unspecified timezone) for the digital deluxe edition 72hr early access https://steamdb.info/app/1658280/depots/
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Apr 20, 2024 19:02
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I played every Suikoden with a gamefaqs guide by some psycho to get every star. I can't imagine what that's going to be like nowadays where people don't really do that anymore and if you google for help with a game you get 9001 copy pasted AI articles and half empty fan wikis. Maybe someone will make a good guide on Steam.
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Apr 20, 2024 19:36
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Steam forums will always be there for you
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oh that is another thing that is funny about emerald and eiyuden releasing so close together too, both are often look to as "guide" games by
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Apr 20, 2024 19:41
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Snooze Cruise posted:oh that is another thing that is funny about emerald and eiyuden releasing so close together too, both are often look to as "guide" games by One of us is having a stroke, but I can't tell if it's me or you.
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Apr 20, 2024 19:58
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Janissary Hop posted:I played every Suikoden with a gamefaqs guide by some psycho to get every star. I can't imagine what that's going to be like nowadays where people don't really do that anymore and if you google for help with a game you get 9001 copy pasted AI articles and half empty fan wikis. Maybe someone will make a good guide on Steam. The worst trend in my opinion is that most guides are now on Youtube. So you have to watch through a bunch of gameplay that isn't relevant, or skip around and try to find what you need for help. Unfortunately this is kinda the best way to make any sort of money from your labor/work on game guides, so I understand the appeal of using Youtube.
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Apr 20, 2024 20:01
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Snooze Cruise posted:oh that is another thing that is funny about emerald and eiyuden releasing so close together too, both are often look to as "guide" games by I hope Eiyuden is not a game that you really need a guide to get through the main story at least. Suikoden 1 & 2 were games like that, but also I have big time skill issues. Someone I watch regularly on Twitch, played Suikoden 1 - 3 with no guide or looking up any information, and completed each game with getting all heroes. So it is possible.
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Apr 20, 2024 20:03
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Janissary Hop posted:I played every Suikoden with a gamefaqs guide by some psycho to get every star. I can't imagine what that's going to be like nowadays where people don't really do that anymore and if you google for help with a game you get 9001 copy pasted AI articles and half empty fan wikis. Maybe someone will make a good guide on Steam. The person running the official Eiyuden wiki is a dear old friend of mine, she'll very likely be running on fumes for the next couple weeks filling it out and I'm like 99% certain she's not some kind of weird robot
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Apr 20, 2024 20:08
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Delsaber posted:The person running the official Eiyuden wiki is a dear old friend of mine, she'll very likely be running on fumes for the next couple weeks filling it out and I'm like 99% certain she's not some kind of weird robot That is good! I appreciate your friend helping add to the community. What the other poster meant is that there are now a lot of really bad gaming articles written in ChatGPT and then not edited or fact checked. They are just thrown up quickly because there is money to be made.
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Annath posted:One of us is having a stroke, but I can't tell if it's me or you. i just forgot the word others at the end. that isn't a stroke post. I said come in! posted:I hope Eiyuden is not a game that you really need a guide to get through the main story at least. Suikoden 1 & 2 were games like that, but also I have big time skill issues. Someone I watch regularly on Twitch, played Suikoden 1 - 3 with no guide or looking up any information, and completed each game with getting all heroes. So it is possible. i mean that is the thing about "guide" games, its always overblown.
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I replayed Suikoden 5 recently and the requirements for a bunch of recruits is total horseshit and some of the guides aren't even 100% sure of some of the triggers.
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Apr 20, 2024 20:31
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Endorph posted:he worked on 3 he just quit like the week before it came out, so they removed his name from the credits. people keep saying he didnt work on 3 and it isnt true. im crying btw but thankfully this does mean i'm even more correct about the assist party slot not being new
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I said come in! posted:That is good! I appreciate your friend helping add to the community. What the other poster meant is that there are now a lot of really bad gaming articles written in ChatGPT and then not edited or fact checked. They are just thrown up quickly because there is money to be made. Oh totally, that stuff is a plague. I just figured I'd shout out the only properly curated alternative that I'm aware of, at least before the Fandom people plagiarize the whole thing. Almost makes you look back fondly on the days of physical Prima guides. I also have no idea if R&B/505 are really letting anyone know of their own official wiki's existence at all aside from maybe within the Eiyuden discord. RubberLuffy posted:I replayed Suikoden 5 recently and the requirements for a bunch of recruits is total horseshit and some of the guides aren't even 100% sure of some of the triggers. I still remember trying to figure out some of those tighter recruitment windows with folks on various dead Suikoden forums days after the game launched. Cathari and Hazuki were nightmares. Delsaber fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Apr 20, 2024 |
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Snooze Cruise posted:i just forgot the word others at the end. that isn't a stroke post. The answer is me, then.
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Annath posted:The answer is me, then. oh no... :'(
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i hope tales of rebirth gives me better recipes soon. feel like of the 2000s era tales games its experimentation with how healing mechanics work make it the hardest one to keep hp up in, since you lose dedicated healers in favor of artes providing passive healing and gels are especially pricey with a lot of shops not offering apple gels at all
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Like a Dragon Infinite Weath's Deluxe Edition is on sale for 63.74$ instead of 85$ till the 25th for anyone interested.
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Finally giving "Caves of Lore" a shot this afternoon after getting it during the Spring Sale. Thoughts/suggestions from those who've played it?
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Snooze Cruise posted:i mean that is the thing about "guide" games, its always overblown. Some people aren't as competent at navigating games as others. Hell, I recall there were people who didn't know how to leave the house in Pokemon Red/Blue.
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FireWorksWell posted:Some people aren't as competent at navigating games as others. Hell, I recall there were people who didn't know how to leave the house in Pokemon Red/Blue.
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Commander Keene posted:I suppose that's why the GBA games added that arrow when you got near a door. That reminds me there's also a tab for it in the in-game FAQ
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Apr 20, 2024 21:51
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RubberLuffy posted:I replayed Suikoden 5 recently and the requirements for a bunch of recruits is total horseshit and some of the guides aren't even 100% sure of some of the triggers. For all the things Suikoden 5 got right, its recruitment is probably the worst in the series. Eiyuden seems pretty organic so far? But time will tell I suppose.
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I'm just going back to every town between events, which is paying off surprisingly well. The starter town just randomly had a dude who unlocked an entire fuckin' CCG in it.
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I should really finish Final Profit before Emerald jeez... Final Profit is good btw.
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ImpAtom posted:I'm just going back to every town between events, which is paying off surprisingly well. The starter town just randomly had a dude who unlocked an entire fuckin' CCG in it. Is there fast travel? I'll be honest I pre-ordered mostly off of the trailer on the PS Store page so I don't know too much about what to expect other than some obtuseness.
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FireWorksWell posted:Is there fast travel? I have not unlocked it yet but considering how Suikoden it is I expect I'll encounter a ditzy mage who will give me the ability teleport relatively soon.
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ImpAtom posted:I have not unlocked it yet but considering how Suikoden it is I expect I'll encounter a ditzy mage who will give me the ability teleport relatively soon. This game just sounds better and better.
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Yeah, there's fast travel. Takes some time to unlock, though.
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Fast travel doesn't unlock until early midgame and getting it -early- is kind of obtuse. There's a point in the main story where you have to recruit the teleporter though
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ImpAtom posted:I have not unlocked it yet but considering how Suikoden it is I expect I'll encounter a ditzy mage who will give me the ability teleport relatively soon. I wish all fast travel in video games worked like Viki in the Suikodens. 75% of the time you get where you wanted to go, 20% chance she sneezes and sends you someplace random, 5% you end up on the closed top floor of an inn with a chest containing, I dunno, an old book or a window pane or whatever
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Professor Moriarty posted:Finally giving "Caves of Lore" a shot this afternoon after getting it during the Spring Sale. Thoughts/suggestions from those who've played it? A few tips. 1. You permanently learn spells off of spellbooks if you use them enough. Stats do matter, but many people can be trained into generalist mages over time. Once you've learned everything you need off a book, why not pass it to one of your buddies? 2. Many options will open up to you if you poke around the hub zone a bit after you get to it. You can leave people to train skills away from the party, you can generate unlimited refights with monsters you have previously encountered for grinding characters/magic/monster lore. A few other neat things. 3. That bonus XP you earn can be saved up to spend as you run into stuff that requires it, or until you feel like you know what skills are good. 4. Some skills, you only really need 1 person, other skills you benefit from having everyone with some ranks. The menu may be clunky, but there is usually a button you can press to get extra info on how a skill or ability works. 5. Summoning magic is REALLY good. You get the book in the library of the main hub, northwestish I think? early on, and the lowest-level Summon Vermin spell puts more bodies on the field with higher skill. You can easily train to the point that you are summoning a rat plus a grab bag of slimes, spiders, and other more useful monsters that consistently take enemies more than one round to kill. I have not finished the game, but my summoner is consistently MVP. 6. Most of the heavy duty warrior gear is too heavy for NPCs that join your party until later on. 7. If you spend a bit rerolling for good stats at the beginning, that will make you more powerful, but there are ways to re-assign your attributes later.
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Delsaber posted:I wish all fast travel in video games worked like Viki in the Suikodens. 75% of the time you get where you wanted to go, 20% chance she sneezes and sends you someplace random, 5% you end up on the closed top floor of an inn with a chest containing, I dunno, an old book or a window pane or whatever metal max games usually have a location that you can only reach for the first time by random teleporter accident
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Janissary Hop posted:I played every Suikoden with a gamefaqs guide by some psycho to get every star. I can't imagine what that's going to be like nowadays where people don't really do that anymore and if you google for help with a game you get 9001 copy pasted AI articles and half empty fan wikis. Maybe someone will make a good guide on Steam. I find that there are usually guides up on gamefaqs still, and unlike the old days they're all fancy and html-formatted now. There are a couple other major websites that also produce legitimate guides and usually show up high in Google results. I'm currently playing Trails into Daybreak 2, and it has a full English guide up, despite not having a Western release yet (it's not the sort of game that really needs a guide, though - I just use it to double-check that I haven't missed anything). You're 100% correct about most game-related questions being dogshit in Google, though. You can ask "where to get Doodad" and get like 20 AI sites saying "Doodad is an armor in the game SomeRPG, and can be acquired by playing the game. As armor, it reduces incoming damage."
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I didn't realize that increasing my herbalism skill in KCD would also increase the yield so I kept wondering why I would all of a sudden get overloaded while herb gathering. Turns out I have about 100 pounds of herbs in my inventory in a surprisingly short amount of time.
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lets hang out posted:metal max games usually have a location that you can only reach for the first time by random teleporter accident The early Wild Arms games as well, iirc.
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