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I'm not sure I buy that a multi billion $ company is trying to intimidate witnesses with middle school level pranks.
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KillHour posted:I'm not sure I buy that a multi billion $ company is trying to intimidate witnesses with middle school level pranks. Still speaks to the culture over there
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Epiphyte posted:Yeah, this feels like some dumbshit middle manager level thing, not orders from on high Feels more like the witness drove over a nail.
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AtomikKrab posted:They don't do weird loving around things with their employees, It is as consistent and reliable today as it was 30 YEARS AGO when my local store first opened. Once the founder (?) CEO leaves/dies, as long as c-suite brain rot remains alive in America, that's when Costco will be hosed.
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other costco fun facts. Americanexpress used to be the costco credit card. but opps AX got to greedy with their cut and lost on of their biggest vectors into the AX card brand
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PhazonLink posted:other costco fun facts. I'm still Real Mad about how AX hosed this up. The cashback system was amazing.
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Cheesus posted:Other then adding true modern conveniences like computers for buying food court items and self checkout (legit good if you are only buying a few items), Costco has not done any weird loving around with their entire business in general, not just employees. He literally just left in January. https://investor.costco.com/news/ne...idend-Declared/
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PhazonLink posted:other costco fun facts. Yeah I was just about to get an AMEX and whoops, my main reason for getting one went away
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Silly Burrito posted:He literally just left in January. just in time for them to finally build one where i live. fantastic 
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DEEP STATE PLOT posted:just in time for them to finally build one where i live. fantastic Anything can happen, but I still believe in Costco until shown otherwise.
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Silly Burrito posted:He literally just left in January. No wonder their stock is going up 
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Silly Burrito posted:Anything can happen, but I still believe in Costco until shown otherwise. i have less than zero faith in c-suite shitheads, the costco ceo was an exceptionally rare exception. i'll be a lot more surprised if they don't gently caress things up, even if the new guy wants to continue with business as usual the shareholders have been screaming at them to change poo poo for decades and who knows if he has the spine or even the desire to fight back. it'll be a bummer if and when they gently caress it all up, but at least it will be very funny.
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I always thought Costco was private until right now shareholders are the worst
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Costco going bad will be the sign that enshittification is truly baked in and can't be stopped.
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KillHour posted:I'm not sure I buy that a multi billion $ company is trying to intimidate witnesses with middle school level pranks. eBay Inc. to Pay $3 Million in Connection with Corporate Cyberstalking Campaign Targeting Massachusetts Couple www.justice.gov - Thu, 11 Jan 2024 posted:BOSTON – eBay Inc., the global ecommerce company, has agreed to pay a $3 million criminal penalty for an August 2019 harassment and intimidation campaign targeting a Massachusetts couple in retaliation for their online coverage of eBay, and for its obstruction of the investigation that followed.
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Someone going on Sunday Morning TV and saying "I serve with some real scumbags. Matt Gaetz, he paid minors to have sex with him at drug parties. Bob Good endorsed a known neo-Nazi. These people used to walk around with white hoods at night, now they’re walking around with white hoods in the daytime.” probably isn't news. The fact that it's coming from a republican member of the House (from Texas, no less) is. We're a far far distance away from the days of the so-called "11th commandment", being "Thou shalt not speak ill of a Fellow Republican" I'd joke that Reagan is spinning in his grave, but considering (waves at the last few years, people carrying water for Putin in Congress, etcetera).. if that was possible, the fucker would have spun so fast he would have reached escape velocity a long time ago, and would be somewhere around the orbit of Jupiter right now.
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DEEP STATE PLOT posted:it'll be a bummer if and when they gently caress it all up, but at least it will be very funny. I don't like that it's the only coping mechanism, but what else can we do?
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KillHour posted:Feels more like the witness drove over a nail. Maybe but I can't blame them for being skittish when another whistle-blower ended up dead in a "suicide"
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Xand_Man posted:Maybe but I can't blame them for being skittish when another whistle-blower ended up dead in a "suicide" He very likely actually did commit suicide
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Professor Beetus posted:Costco going bad will be the sign that enshittification is truly baked in and can't be stopped. this is not a joke if costco falls to the same pressures that have made everything worse in our lifetime, that's pretty much game
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Fart Amplifier posted:He very likely actually did commit suicide Probably, but whistleblowers and witnesses only get one life to find out if that's true or not.
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Fart Amplifier posted:He very likely actually did commit suicide Is there evidence that has come to light that convinced you?
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Fart Amplifier posted:He very likely actually did commit suicide I share your intuition (if that guy really thought Boeing was trying to kill him, why just tell people he's not suicidal, why not do everything in his power to stay in front of a camera and avoid isolation whenever possible. Sounds like a suicidal guy who found a vengeful alibi). But the thing is that "Boeing very likely did not murder the guy who tried to do the thing I'm trying to do" is actually not reassuring at all. If I were a Boeing whistleblower I would be paranoid as loving hell right now, and rationally so.
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Civilized Fishbot posted:I share your intuition (if that guy really thought Boeing was trying to kill him, why just tell people he's not suicidal, why not do everything in his power to stay in front of a camera and avoid isolation whenever possible. Sounds like a suicidal guy who found a vengeful alibi).  Boeing Whistleblower Warned Family Friend 'It's Not Suicide' Before Death
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Yeah that's what I'm referencing. If you really think a massive corporation is trying to kill you and make it look like a suicide - wouldn't you want to prevent it, not just prevent people from thinking it's a suicide but actually prevent yourself being murdered? So you'd go to the lawyers you're already working with and say, hey, I think I'm in danger here, let's figure something out. At least a buddy system or something - don't be along for a second longer than necessary. Don't drive alone, done hang out in your car alone, etc. But that's where they found this guy - in his car, alone, by himself, where he either was murdered or committed suicide. If he really thought Boeing was trying to kill him, then it seems he accepted the death as totally inevitable. Frankly that shows so much apathy to his own self-preservation that when he said he wasn't suicidal it was incorrect. So that story seems implausible/unrealistic to me. The story that makes sense to me: man's career has been ruined because he took a stand against his evil workplace's willful disregard for human safety. He is depressed and anxious, feels Boeing is going to beat him, is coming after him personally. He's in the middle of a grueling deposition where his personal credibility is being attacked by lawyers who are real-deal sharks. It's extremely stressful and demoralizing. So he figures out that he can exit his whole life situation as a martyr rather than as a suicide perpetrator, and in a way that actually draws enormous negative attention onto Boeing. That story makes total sense to me. Obviously I am just an internet guy and the crime should be investigated by an actual team of detectives who should seriously pursue the possibility that it was exactly as the victim warned, a murder to silence him and threaten future whistleblowers. I just personally think it probably wasn't that.
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Fart Amplifier posted:He very likely actually did commit suicide Yeah sure, just like Putin's enemies are allergic to windows
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mawarannahr posted:Is there evidence that has come to light that convinced you? The family thinks it was suicide, the stress of the trials had been causing physical and mental health issues, and the investigations so far have confirmed it was suicide. A person at some point allegedly saying they weren't going to commit suicide doesn't mean their suicide is actually a murder.
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multi-hour depositions are a FANTASTIC way to feel suicidally depressed in an acute timeframe. you can get savagely grilled for seven hours before you hit most states "upper limit" on how much a person is allowed to be subject to that particular mind torture, at which point you may discover this is more a loose guideline and more may yet be on its way i got put through some depositions in which i was a straight up squeaky clean individual with nothing even remotely compromising or disqualifying about my character that the opposition could dig into, but they still felt like the mental version of worf's torture stick trial strung out for fuckin hours. dont wanna know what it was going to be like for a critical whistleblower in a potentially $jillions case that a major corporation desperately wants to fuckin destroy you in to protect itself
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If this occurred in China, where someone 'committed suicide' after blowing the whistle on a massive company that was vital to national security during a trial, would people just uncritically accept that it was a suicide? Or is the US an extra pure and noble state where this sort of thing doesn't happen.
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celadon posted:If this occurred in China, where someone 'committed suicide' after blowing the whistle on a massive company that was vital to national security during a trial, would people just uncritically accept that it was a suicide? Or is the US an extra pure and noble state where this sort of thing doesn't happen. If there's zero evidence that it was something else than suicide, then who cares?
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i would probably wonder about it either way but with the understanding that the limits on what i can expect as vetted, credible reporting or legal review is massively different between the two if it was russia though, for instance, i wouldn't bother wondering about it much
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celadon posted:If this occurred in China, where someone 'committed suicide' after blowing the whistle on a massive company that was vital to national security during a trial, would people just uncritically accept that it was a suicide? Or is the US an extra pure and noble state where this sort of thing doesn't happen. Has anyone uncritically accepted it? People have posted their reasons why they agree that it seems like he committed suicide, which implies they actually put some critical thought into it. Staluigi posted:i would probably wonder about it either way but with the understanding that the limits on what i can expect as vetted, credible reporting or legal review is massively different between the two Yeah, pretty much. It isn't like vengeful suicides aren't a never-thing. Remember in the Bush era when that census guy was found dead after telling everyone he'd never commit suicide and that if he died someone murdered him, and his body was staged with a note indicating he was killed for being a census taker? He had, actually, committed suicide. It's fine to be suspicious and desire answers, but there doesn't seem to be much here.
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Also worth noting that he died after he had already given his testimony which, while not proof in and of itself, in conjunction with everything else makes it less likely that a targeted hit would make much sense. While we don't KNOW it was a suicide, it seems the much more probable answer at this point.
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Regardless of who killed him, Boeing is clearly at fault
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celadon posted:If this occurred in China, where someone 'committed suicide' after blowing the whistle on a massive company that was vital to national security during a trial, would people just uncritically accept that it was a suicide? Or is the US an extra pure and noble state where this sort of thing doesn't happen. He blew the whistle years ago, and the trial is long over. Unless you're just going to believe any conspiracy, you need credible evidence
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After Epstein you can't blame people for casting doubt when the person who says "If I die it's not a suicide" passes away suddenly.
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C. Everett Koop posted:After Epstein you can't blame people for casting doubt when the person who says "If I die it's not a suicide" passes away suddenly. You can always blame people for believing conspiracy theories without credible evidence
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Fart Amplifier posted:You can always blame people for believing conspiracy theories without credible evidence (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Fart Amplifier posted:He blew the whistle years ago, and the trial is long over. I'm not sure why you keep saying misinformation about this, you've been corrected on it several times. https://www.bbc.com/news/business-68534703 He literally died the night before he was expected to give more testimony in a deposition. Not sure people are brought in for depositions for trials that are long over.
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Do y’all who think the Boeing whistleblower wasn’t a suicide because he said he wouldn’t do it also think that John McAffee was murdered? “I won’t” is, as I sadly know first hand, exactly what people prepared to do it say. And as other people said, he was under immense, unbelievable stress arrayed against one of the most powerful MIC giants of all time. soviet elsa fucked around with this message at 00:57 on Apr 22, 2024 |
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