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Ornery and Hornery posted:Odunze over Nabers… I was surprised to see Olu so far down the list at 15, and behind OTs other than Alt. Olu was a consensus top 10 pick if he came out last year. Nix and Penix are higher than expected too. Ornery and Hornery fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Apr 22, 2024 |
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Ornery and Hornery posted:Odunze over Nabers… I'd take Odunze over Nabers for the Chargers specifically
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I don't think Odunze over Nabers is a stretch at all. Nix slightly over Penix is kind of interesting. Most of boards I've see lately are really muddled in that OL2-5 range and Fashanu more often than not winding up on the backend behind Fuatano and Fuaga, maybe because they're more positionally versatile. I've also seen a lot of knocks on Fashanu's run blocking. Breer is reporting a few medical flags... quote:• Latu’s neck condition is going to be a disqualifier for some, but not all teams. He was medically retired by the University of Washington, which forced his transfer to UCLA. You’ll remember that in 2018, Leighton Vander Esch came into the league with a neck condition. A really solid linebacker when he played, and the Cowboys’ first-round pick that year, Vander Esch missed significant time in four of his six seasons, and retired after being limited to just five games in 2023.
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My ignorant bold take. Chargers draft JJ McCarthy, signaling Herbert is available. They get the future draft capital they are wanting by trading Herbert, and maximize it by creating draft day chaos.
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I don’t think Odunze over Nabers is a stretch. I love Odunze. Just seemed notable to the draft process discourse. The second tier wrs are plentiful in the second round of his rankings and he seems a bit lower on the safeties overall.
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Reminder that Daltos livestreams the draft every year with better analysis than garbage rear end ESPN and NFL Network https://www.twitch.tv/daltos
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a neat cape posted:Reminder that Daltos livestreams the draft every year with better analysis than garbage rear end ESPN and NFL Network I've been taking a break from football after the Superbowl was very obviously rigged, but this is very true.
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I’m gonna try and watch the first round live at a bar with the boys. First time doing that since 2019!!
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whos that broooown posted:And yet the New England model hasn't seemed to work too well without it's Tom Brady has it? Seemed to work for the Chiefs last year. But yeah you need that Mahomes or Brady level talent if the plan is to drag a bunch of dogshit third and fourth string pass catchers to the super bowl. At the end Bill got too high on his own farts and replaced Gronk and Edelman with the likes of N'Keal Harry and DeVante Parker while also having Mac Jones at QB. The model became "zero above average players on offense" and well you saw how that went. BillsPhoenix posted:My ignorant bold take. Harbaugh unrepentantly drafting "oops all Michigan" would be unbelievable content Ornery and Hornery posted:Odunze over Nabers… "Tanner McLachlan" as TE2. I realize there isn't much consensus after Bowers but I've never even heard of this dude. He's TE7 in The Beast and not even projected as a starter for what that's worth Mo Kamara at 71
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BillsPhoenix posted:My ignorant bold take. If Jim Harbaugh wanted JJ McCarthy to throw the ball he'd have indicated that at some point in Michigan. If they're going to blow up their QB room it would probably be for a falling QB My preferred Michigan Man Chaos Pick is Brock Bowers
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Can Harbaugh resist the siren call of an interior lineman named Jackson Powers-Johnson
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Lord knows I could not
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Cash Monet posted:Can Harbaugh resist the siren call of an interior lineman named Jackson Powers-Johnson Jackson Powers-Johnson sounds like a future Hall-Of-Fame Center.
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Good lord knows anyone can be a HOF center now if they have a podcast and wore a funny suit one time
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Ornery and Hornery posted:I’m gonna try and watch the first round live at a bar with the boys. First time doing that since 2019!! Is there a (legal) way to stream the draft this year without a paid TV service? Gotta figure out my own Thursday night game plan Not that I give a poo poo what the analysts have to say but it's fun to see players walk up and everyone constantly booing Goodell and so on
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Docjowles posted:Is there a (legal) way to stream the draft this year without a paid TV service? Gotta figure out my own Thursday night game plan It's on ABC I think
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Cash Monet posted:Can Harbaugh resist the siren call of an interior lineman named Jackson Powers-Johnson He should have been a baseball player, because his name sounds like a triple play.
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a neat cape posted:Reminder that Daltos livestreams the draft every year with better analysis than garbage rear end ESPN and NFL Network With all due respect to the work Daltos puts in, the point of watching the draft on ESPN isn't analysis. It's to get hyped by highlights while their awesome NFL music plays.
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if you're not watching the NFL Draft with ESPN on the television, Twitter on your phone, Doltos' stream on your second monitor, a tracking spreadsheet of your preferred picks with links to a dozen different pre-draft rankings + post-draft instant reaction sites on your primary monitor, and a styrofoam container of buffalo wings on your lap, what the gently caress are you even doing
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SMH from the childless, for not including having paw patrol or something on too so you can focus on the draft
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here is my hot take: the commanders should take jj mccarthy, because it would set off a chain of absolute trade pandemonium
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Ornery and Hornery posted:Odunze over Nabers… Fisher and especially C. Jones being 54 and 55 and then follow it up with Goncalves at 88 is absolutely wild. Boyd and Vaki with 4th round grades also crazy. Ray Davis with a 3rd round grade is insane. Michael Hall Jr somewhere between 40 and 70 spots later than he'll actually go.
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I hope there's a QB frenzy in the first 8 picks so the Bears can end up with MHJ, Nabers, or Odunze at 9. However, I think it's far more likely the WRs get snatched up early and the QBs (after Caleb) drop down further than expected.
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Ornery and Hornery posted:Odunze over Nabers… Wiggins that low, below Rakestraw, Kool Aid, Quinyon and Terrion is very surprising to me. Yes he's not super motivated against the run, but that's something that can be drilled into him and at the end of the day, I want my cornerbacks to cover. If they can do that at an elite level, they can pick up everything else. For RBs, Will Shipley anywhere on that list is pretty surprising as well, and just one slot below Trey Benson and above Jaylen Wright? Blake Corum, Ray Davis, Jonathan Brooks and Marshawn Lloyd all above Jaylen Wright and Trey Benson?? Marshawn Lloyd RB1 is a pretty bold take, I don't actually mind it but putting Corum and Brooks and Davis above Wright and Benson is crazy to me. I also don't really understand what people see in Marshawn Kneeland. I've watched plenty of his tape and he just looks like a big, stiff, unathletic edge player with zero bend. He also doesn't seem to have the power that you'd want in a player with his profile.
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Kevlar v2.0 posted:I hope there's a QB frenzy in the first 8 picks so the Bears can end up with MHJ, Nabers, or Odunze at 9. However, I think it's far more likely the WRs get snatched up early and the QBs (after Caleb) drop down further than expected. I hope the QBs drop so there's even a slight chance that Vegas can trade up for Daniels somehow, but it won't happen because we're cursed to have QBs forever more
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Black Sunshine posted:I hope the QBs drop so there's even a slight chance that Vegas can trade up for Daniels somehow, but it won't happen because we're cursed to have QBs forever more I'm really hoping the Raiders end up with Penix. It might work out or it might not, but I like the fit and I think it would be super fun to see him play for that team.
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I'm not sure what's up with Nate Wiggins but apparently he's off the Bucs draft board.
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wandler20 posted:I'm not sure what's up with Nate Wiggins but apparently he's off the Bucs draft board. Huh, is it character stuff I wonder? I still doubt there's any chance he makes it out of the first round. If he falls the 49ers will take him at 31. Doltos posted:It's fun to flip through nfldraftbuzz pros and cons and then looking at the NFL combine pros and cons and seeing them just reword their sentences lol yep that's about right. draft media is all about copying each others homework
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Brian Gutekunst said today that while the Packers are currently sitting at 11 picks, he wants to end the draft having had 13 or 14 picks. So the Pack will be trading down.
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Play posted:I also don't really understand what people see in Marshawn Kneeland. I've watched plenty of his tape and he just looks like a big, stiff, unathletic edge player with zero bend. He also doesn't seem to have the power that you'd want in a player with his profile. I like him against a run. Navigates traffic and gets off blocks, pass rush is mediocre but he's enough of an athlete that I think people hope with some NFL strength and conditioning and development that he has potential as a 3 down player. I see it, but crapshoot as always with these guys.
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Who drops this year despite being highly touted and then makes everyone look stupid because they were as good as advertised? Safety is usually a good bet here, with Derwin James and Kyle Hamilton as recent examples. Rome Odunze seems possible to me. Guy will be great, but maybe a bunch of teams in the top 20 convince themselves they can get better "value" WRs in the next round.
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MrLogan posted:I've been taking a break from football after the Superbowl was very obviously rigged, but this is very true. Yes, I also haven't watched any football since the last football game
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The Puppy Bowl posted:Who drops this year despite being highly touted and then makes everyone look stupid because they were as good as advertised? Johnny Newton
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The Puppy Bowl posted:Who drops this year despite being highly touted and then makes everyone look stupid because they were as good as advertised? I'm having a hard time thinking of a single negative thing I've read or heard about Odunze anywhere so him sliding past the Jets at the very latest would be stunning to me. Bowers seems like an easy answer. "Sorry can't take a TE that high" *Bowers goes to Mike McDaniel and immediately destroys Kyle Pitts' rookie season* "How the gently caress did the league let him get Bowers"
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I think Payton Wilson will hang around longer than he would have 10 - 20 years ago and ends up DROY.
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I still think the falcons taking Kyle Pitts was one of the absolute worst picks for team and player in recent years. Absolute waste of an incredible talent on a team so incredibly hosed up roster wise.Doltos posted:Good lord knows anyone can be a HOF center now if they have a podcast and wore a funny suit one time Forever mad about my legendary mediocre center Asproigerosis fucked around with this message at 10:21 on Apr 23, 2024 |
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Play posted:I still doubt there's any chance he makes it out of the first round. If he falls the 49ers will take him at 31. from your lips
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https://x.com/MelKiperESPN/status/1782757825858454010quote:1. Caleb Williams, QB, USC
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I don't think people would be so down on Bowers in the top 10 if he wasn't so unjacked and also balding
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Diva Cupcake posted:150. Jack Westover, TE, Washington wut
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