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grenade pistol doesnt seem directly comparable to impacts outside of both of them closing bug holes/bot fabs also, i dont care even if they did do the same damage, it sucks rear end only getting 2 from a resupply. this is one of the last games that should be stingy with explosives *edit, does the pistol even do close to the same damage as the eruptor, which gets 6 mags of 5 back from a resupply?
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ArmyGroup303 posted:3) Some form of heavy orbital or Eagle heavy AT/HE asset - Eagle Airstrikes, Eagle 500kg, 120mm (gently caress you if you bring 380s, even with the 15% buff), orbital laser, orbital railcannon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zSWZtorP8U&t=48s 380s are great just don't throw it on the 3rd door 
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Sometimes you quick join a lobby and find some clowns doing some clown diving. First mission ended with two of the dudes doing pvp duels till we ran out of respawn tokens. Both us random joiners looked on from the helipad and input the Reinforce every time old dude got got. Everybody accepted my hug emote in the destroyer so gently caress it we ball.  Greatest High Value Extraction game of my life. Two of the dudes picked Mines and Incindiary Mines. The other dude did a Tesla Tower. My contribution: 380 Heavy Artillery. When we pressed that button on the bunker only sweet liberty determined if you lived or died. We left that mission laughing our asses off on comms and 0 Requisition left over. Genuinely surprised that 35 High Value Folks got into the big bunker. 10/10 Press R for SuperEarth today.
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ScootsMcSkirt posted:*edit, does the pistol even do close to the same damage as the eruptor, which gets 6 mags of 5 back from a resupply? Grenade Pistol does higher damage on paper, but with a smaller AoE and none of the Eruptor's shrapnel.
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The pistol is not a direct grenade analogue because grenades are balanced around all of the various types, the launcher only fires a slightly less powerful impact grenade. As such they can give a bit more armmo.
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Away all Goats posted:It's so good I'm worried it's gonna get nerfed. The splash radius is absurd, there's no way it won't be.
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Durzel posted:On that note some friends and I had several of those games last night. We had done a couple of level 9 defences and done well, then the next one just decided to spawn Bile Titans instead of Hunters I guess because we just ended up with 4 or 5 marching towards us at all times. There’s only so much you can do in that situation and inevitably we were overrun.
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Pubbies don’t pick HSO booster for some reason. Evac time over HSO on bug9 blitzes? Level 30 guy surely you’re joking. You won’t make it to the end if you don’t drop in with 4 stims Please always pick HSO, and stamina booster people, speed is life.
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Risky Bisquick posted:Pubbies don’t pick HSO booster for some reason. Evac time over HSO on bug9 blitzes? Level 30 guy surely you’re joking. You won’t make it to the end if you don’t drop in with 4 stims Medic Armor GOATED for runners. Better than light armor for speed if you just leave a sliver of damage on your health bar.
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The Eruptor is definitely going to get hosed with because of the weird implosion bug. I love it when I shoot something ever so slightly too close to me and limply grointhrust towards the enemy like I'm in Juice Galaxy
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If everyone runs light armor dropping stamina is viable.
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If you're regularly having issues where your grenade pistol runs dry and you can't get it filled it's time to swap the shield pack for a supply pack because you're not making proper use of your reinforcements.
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I've been running Lazer Drone on the ice planets, but every other type of planet I just love the Supply Backpack.
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Defensive backpacks are for weenies. Your survival strategy in this game should be judicious use of sprinting, diving, and cover combined with a strong offense. Drop the shields and laser dogs and bring another eagle strike or sentry instead.
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Sagebrush posted:Defensive backpacks are for weenies. Your survival strategy in this game should be judicious use of sprinting, diving, and cover combined with a strong offense. Drop the shields and laser dogs and bring another eagle strike or sentry instead. The only time I take the laser dog is vs bugs when I'm running the Eruptor primary. I just can't deal with stuff on my own when they get in my face, and the laser dog takes care of them for me. Otherwise, yeah I agree.
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The laser dog helps with the killing. I've racked up a 34 kill streak once just running around with it. Might as well swear off the weapons as "defensive".
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I like the bento box backpack. It has ammo and stim compartments just for me!AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:I agree because at one point in a rocket departure defense mission we had 4 factory striders marching at us, all bunched up and clipping into each other so we couldnt even kill their guns, it was awful. Join the church of the Defensive 380.
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I think you'll find that the lazer dog is a gun, and is thus an offensive strategem.
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Internet Explorer posted:I think you'll find that the lazer dog is a gun, and is thus an offensive strategem.
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Internet Explorer posted:I think you'll find that the lazer dog is a gun, and is thus an offensive strategem. I'm sad they changed the model and it isn't just a drone with a Scythe literally bolted to the bottom anymore.
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I will accept this argument. Still, dump the shields and the heavy armor and such. Everything you bring should be capable of killing bugsRavenfood posted:I'm sad they changed the model and it isn't just a drone with a Scythe literally bolted to the bottom anymore. What?? Awww man I liked that too. Great world building to go along with the descriptions of the ship upgrades (super glue, packing peanuts, extra bombs in the eagle cockpit footwells) Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 15:12 on Apr 23, 2024 |
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Sagebrush posted:What?? Awww man I liked that too. Great world building to go along with the descriptions of the ship upgrades (super glue, packing peanuts, extra bombs in the eagle cockpit footwells)
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Sagebrush posted:Defensive backpacks are for weenies. Your survival strategy in this game should be judicious use of sprinting, diving, and cover combined with a strong offense. Drop the shields and laser dogs and bring another eagle strike or sentry instead.  Do you play on helldive, or difficulty 9?e: People with shields (ballistic for bots!) die less which is very helpful, and shielded sample runners on blitzes is a very key strategy to get 50 samples in 8-12 minutes. Laser dogs are also highly viable for bugs in a different but complimentary way so personal shields and laser dog people have different roles Risky Bisquick fucked around with this message at 15:37 on Apr 23, 2024 |
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Yeah I roll with a shield against bugs so I can Quasar & EAT Chargers and Bile Titans while ignoring the chaff that got to my feet because my team is busy. Some matches I have half the kills of everyone else but no more than 2 deaths, and most of my kills were Big poo poo that others could not deal with at the time. edit: and I usually wait to mooch a shield off of a friend that brought one, to save a stratagem slot.
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I just make sure to use all 20 reinforcements so the budget doesn’t get reduced next year. The only yellow text I care about is mission complete.
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I feel insane because I consider the RR way more effective than the Quasar or EAT and I just can't understand how nobody else seems to feel that way. Lots of ammo, instant fire with no charge up, team reload as an option, reloads from common ammo boxes. I slay with the drat thing. What are other people missing that I understand? Seriously I watch folks on YouTube vids and I see so many misses from the quasar charge up alone. It's fun to use sometimes but for dedicated AT work it's mid.
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DeliciousPatriotism posted:I feel insane because I consider the RR way more effective than the Quasar or EAT and I just can't understand how nobody else seems to feel that way. No backpack
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DeliciousPatriotism posted:I feel insane because I consider the RR way more effective than the Quasar or EAT and I just can't understand how nobody else seems to feel that way. Maybe you're missing something about the quasar and EAT that everyone else sees 
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the quasar is just easier to use. even though the chargeup gets people killed against bots constantly What the RR really needs is to one shot hulk heatsinks (and mebbe shredders?). it suffers the most from this, more than EAT/Quasar imo.
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DeliciousPatriotism posted:I feel insane because I consider the RR way more effective than the Quasar or EAT and I just can't understand how nobody else seems to feel that way. I'll bet that RR is really good on rocket defense, but I'll also bet lots of people don't like having to sit and reload instead of acting freely while they wait for a cooldown even if it's much longer
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ijyt posted:Maybe you're missing something about the quasar and EAT that everyone else sees I can snap fire and clap a charger in the face and finish reloading before the corpse finishes tumbling. Also bubble shiled backpacks slow down my killing when I could have more offensive strats.
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Sagebrush posted:Defensive backpacks are for weenies. Your survival strategy in this game should be judicious use of sprinting, diving, and cover combined with a strong offense. Drop the shields and laser dogs and bring another eagle strike or sentry instead. I’m coming around on “shield is actually an offensive backpack with arc thrower,” for bots at least, because it lets you take super greedy zaps against devastators that you would otherwise be unable to.
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Ran into this yesterday. Left the map when the guy opened a 2 man door by themselves, whatever magic they were practicing I didn't want any of it. High Value Target Rocket Defense Pub. Despite the photo everyone here besides me used a Spear which was pretty effective but we got the map that Striders can snipe from the landing pad and I heard the alarm but the spear squad didn't. 2nd attempt failed because I blew my load on the 380mm too early and we got the 4 strider drop right after  You've gotta SAVE THAT poo poo for when all is lost. Also everyone in this lobby was way cooler about getting comedy killed by the rocket sentry placement then I've seen people get about mortars or auto cannons getting in the way of their skull multiplier. Black Noise fucked around with this message at 16:12 on Apr 23, 2024 |
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I like the RR because it has no prefire delay and the best sustained output of any AT Launcher. It's a sometimes food because it's a bigger commitment to the AT role than either the EAT or Quasar but it puts in work if that's what you want to do. Backpacks aren't mandatory anyway, and you can fill the Stratagem slot a laserdog would have taken with something else like EMS or an additional Eagle/Orbital
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Before Factory Strider Spam was a thing, I brought the RR and EATs and just sat off to the side shooting down dropships as fast as I could (if I could reload the RR fast enough I would just pick up an EAT, fire it, then reload the RR) and it was hilariously easy.novaSphere posted:I like the RR because it has no prefire delay and the best sustained output of any AT Launcher. It's a sometimes food because it's a bigger commitment to the AT role than either the EAT or Quasar but it puts in work if that's what you want to do. Backpacks aren't mandatory anyway, and you can fill the Stratagem slot a laserdog would have taken with something else like EMS or an additional Eagle/Orbital edit: WoodrowSkillson posted:however most of the time i just bring an autocannon cause its just so much goddamn fun   
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if you are dead or far away from your body and prior gear, you are doing way less damage. Whatever keeps someone alive and fighting is the right loadout, so if people want to use shields or guard dogs, thats a good thing. I personally find myself overwhelmed against bugs sometimes, or getting ragdolled against bots, and bringing a backpack stratagem significantly helps with that. the slight inefficiency of the quasar compared to the RR is worth it. however most of the time i just bring an autocannon cause its just so much goddamn fun
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One of my favorite little details is how if you get into a mech with a drone active it parks itself on top of the mech instead of disappearing inside it
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DeliciousPatriotism posted:I feel insane because I consider the RR way more effective than the Quasar or EAT and I just can't understand how nobody else seems to feel that way. RR is great, it has some downsides, but can be extremely powerful if you have a team reload going (realistically something like evacuate high value personnel missions) VVV same thoughts Hwurmp posted:I'll bet that RR is really good on rocket defense, but I'll also bet lots of people don't like having to sit and reload instead of acting freely while they wait for a cooldown even if it's much longer novaSphere posted:I like the RR because it has no prefire delay and the best sustained output of any AT Launcher. It's a sometimes food because it's a bigger commitment to the AT role than either the EAT or Quasar but it puts in work if that's what you want to do. Backpacks aren't mandatory anyway, and you can fill the Stratagem slot a laserdog would have taken with something else like EMS or an additional Eagle/Orbital This is why I like EATs over Quasar most of the time for bugs, the firing delay can be a deal breaker in some situations. Bonus is the EATs people if not sending their rockets can clear the chaff to give space for the Queso chefs to cook. Win-Win
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Fangz posted:Apparently the striders can hit the generators without anyone on the helipad, so maybe the answer is actually that you want someone on the helipad to take out their top turret asap, or to drop smoke, or something like that. Had one Defense Mission where dropships kept unloading bots on the cliff that's lefthand of the first gates. It was fine until it dropped a Hulk up there that oneshotted both generators before anyone could do anything about it. GG A+++++ would be hosed again. On the subject of using the Helipad, I tried that, but at least against bots, they were trying to get at me but as I dropped them one Hulk drat near climbed up the wall on a pile of bot bodies, so I hosed off out of there ASAP. Do not recommend.
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DeliciousPatriotism posted:I can snap fire and clap a charger in the face and finish reloading before the corpse finishes tumbling. You can do that with a Quasar and you don't have to spend the next 5 seconds stationary putting a tube in a tube, instead spending it running around dunking on more bugs  RR is fun on defenses but having to do the whole reload cycle thing bothers me too much on mobile missions.
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