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If you make a post complaining about "woke localizators" and then use as evidence a picture where the Japanese was translated as literally as possible ignoring all tone indicators and registers you should be shot with a super laser piss forever.
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"It doesn't match the AI translation" is the new one. That said, Steam Forums aren't even on the tier of YouTube comments, they're more like...the discussion pages of wikias and Instagram comments. Nobody looks there so it just becomes the place for all the insane people who can't get away with it even on the public internet. mycot fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Apr 23, 2024 |
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Apr 23, 2024 17:33
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Tequila Bob posted:Yep, the Steam forums are a great example of what happens when you let a-holes run unmoderated. See also: the Emerald Beyond forum. This poo poo is getting loving bonkers in 2024. Apparently games are just for signaling your politics to people now and not you know....for entertainment and stimulation. Some character in that game apparently calls someone a musclebound chud which has caused some severe  stuff from the gamergate crowd as well.
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mycot posted:"It doesn't match the AI translation" is the new one. These people genuinely think that AI is "pure" because sometimes Japanese writers 'accidentally' put woke things in, and thankfully AI translation magically excises this.
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It was kinda funny though when people could not get the AI to misgender someone no matter what prompts they used, because it's not accurate to anything, the only reason to do so is spite.
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Kale posted:This poo poo is getting loving bonkers in 2024. Apparently games are just for signaling your politics to people now and not you know....for entertainment and stimulation. The issue for these people is that they've reached the point where they can't have fun anymore. Everything to them is a battle for the
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I think there’s a decent chance parts of G Gundam Cross Rays are machine translated because I’m now playing one of the series I watched recently and I can remember specific conversations from the show and the way the translation mistranslates lines every once and awhile is bizarre. It could also be just an overworked translator with no context for what’s happening in Gundam Seed.
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As a bilingual individual, I find myself rolling my eyes more and more at localization these days, but it never makes me upset or mad. Gotta let people put their own personal touch on things a little in these few years we have left before AI monopolizes translations, and we start giving the input "Translate and localize this text in the style of a blue-hair-haver" when we get nostalgic
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Apr 23, 2024 17:44
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TheMightyBoops posted:The pace at which I’m getting levels is cool, but it’s hard to tell how mechanics work together as a whole. It kinda seems like they just added 4 zeroes to every number from the other games so far. Yeah I didn't like the level changes for that reason. It'd be one thing if the curve was the same as previous games but when you gain hundreds of levels within 10 minutes of starting the game the bigger numbers are just aesthetics.
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Apr 23, 2024 17:47
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ImpAtom posted:The issue for these people is that they've reached the point where they can't have fun anymore. Everything to them is a battle for the Somewhere along the way too they convinced themselves that Japan and Korea are these huge anti-woke paradises where nothing is ever censored for content and anytime there games include any person of color or LGBT themes of any sort that it was forced on them by apparently some consulting firm in Montreal that has never worked with a studio outside North America and Europe and employs 15 people
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Apr 23, 2024 17:49
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solution is just stay away from AAA or AAAA western oriented written games
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GateOfD posted:solution is just stay away from AAA or AAAA western oriented written games If you think indie Japanese titles have fewer gay people then I have bad news for you.
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One of the characters in Eiyuden has a literal "well, THAT just happened" line pretty early on which on one hand is probably different than the original line and is the go-to example for Cringe Dialogue, but the character's whole personality is "annoying hyperactive teenager" so it still feels organic to me. It seems like a lot of people see "localizing Japanese media tropes with analogous Western media tropes that are more relatable to an American audience", which is just part of localization, and since to a certain type of person any and all Western media tropes are woke DEI then there you go shrug emoji Also Emerald Saga completely owns and takes what I like about Frontier and Scarlet (the incredibly disjointed setting and the battle system respectively) and discards what I didn't like (the inverse of that) and mashes it up and makes it just the right amount of more accessible and is shaping up to be the first one I don't reluctantly bounce off of
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I don't know any Japanese, so I would not be able to tell or know if a line was true to its original Japanese script. And without someone who speaks fluent Japanese being able to confirm the script and differences, I just don't see why I should care about this. I've yet to see anyone who has said "hey I speak fluent Japanese, and this english translation is bad."
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Apr 23, 2024 18:00
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Hundred Heroes is a Kickstarter game and had the most Japanese backers of any KS game. I don't think one dark skinned person is a plot to appeal to the West.
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been playing codename bakery, its pretty good! but lol a the disparity in the art sometimes, you got regular npcs who have "normal" art, then the main characters have "serious" anime art, then you have random catgirls with goofy anime art for some reason?
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Apr 23, 2024 18:06
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there’s an entire ecosystem of people who say this poo poo about every new release and many of them have financial motivation to do so. they’re not going away and only going to get worse but there’s no point in musing over their reasoning
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mycot posted:Hundred Heroes is a Kickstarter game and had the most Japanese backers of any KS game. I don't think one dark skinned person is a plot to appeal to the West. It's not worth thinking about it logically tbh. These are the same crowd that were convinced That woke localizers forced in the line about how awesome the LGBT community is, in AI: Somnium files, and when people pointed out it's a 1:1 line in JP, that crowd pivoted to claiming the author is not "really Japanese" and actually a white girl from California trying to ruin everything.
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babypolis posted:been playing codename bakery, its pretty good! but lol a the disparity in the art sometimes, you got regular npcs who have "normal" art, then the main characters have "serious" anime art, then you have random catgirls with goofy anime art for some reason? Ibram Gaunt posted:It's not worth thinking about it logically tbh. These are the same crowd that were convinced That woke localizers forced in the line about how awesome the LGBT community is, in AI: Somnium files, and when people pointed out it's a 1:1 line in JP, that crowd pivoted to claiming the author is not "really Japanese" and actually a white girl from California trying to ruin everything. they arent worth thinking about theyre basically just conspiracy theorists. itd be like trying to argue logically with the guy at the bus stop telling you that bush put a bomb in his brain as part of his plan to create 9/11 2. like uh-huh man sure
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Ibram Gaunt posted:It's not worth thinking about it logically tbh. These are the same crowd that were convinced That woke localizers forced in the line about how awesome the LGBT community is, in AI: Somnium files, and when people pointed out it's a 1:1 line in JP, that crowd pivoted to claiming the author is not "really Japanese" and actually a white girl from California trying to ruin everything. https://twitter.com/Uchikoshi_Eng/status/1554722839697461248 https://twitter.com/Uchikoshi_Eng/status/1554731556920762368
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I said come in! posted:Yeah the PC version runs great. Steam Deck is good too, with only a drop to 40fps in the overworld. set it in game to 30 fps and you'll get smooth 60fps. i'm running it at 7w cpu and 10w gpu iirc and it's great.
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Betty's a character from GFL, but the art is original to Codename Bakery. Same for Abigail.
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 The dialog is not good my rear end!!!
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Terper posted:https://twitter.com/Uchikoshi_Eng/status/1554722839697461248
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Oxxidation posted:there’s an entire ecosystem of people who say this poo poo about every new release and many of them have financial motivation to do so. they’re not going away and only going to get worse but there’s no point in musing over their reasoning yea, it happens every single time and 99% of the script is the same each time. It's as surprising as paint drying.
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Srice posted:yea, it happens every single time and 99% of the script is the same each time. It's as surprising as paint drying.
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Endorph posted:‘instead of blaming each other, let us curse god, who destroyed the tower of babel.' lol that owns.
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Srice posted:yea, it happens every single time and 99% of the script is the same each time. It's as surprising as paint drying. People run the script through Google translate basically.
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babypolis posted:been playing codename bakery, its pretty good! but lol a the disparity in the art sometimes, you got regular npcs who have "normal" art, then the main characters have "serious" anime art, then you have random catgirls with goofy anime art for some reason? Yeah the entire squad there isn't human, they're t-dolls (combat androids) that are cameo characters from Girls Frontline. I think they also have a different artist.
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BabyRyoga posted:As a bilingual individual, I find myself rolling my eyes more and more at localization these days, but it never makes me upset or mad. Gotta let people put their own personal touch on things a little in these few years we have left before AI monopolizes translations, and we start giving the input "Translate and localize this text in the style of a blue-hair-haver" when we get nostalgic i dont think this is going to happen beyond the bottom of the barrel companies that already practiced this
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yea lol. sega and capcom both have put out aticles in the past few months about how closely they work with the localization teams during development, big projects use translators and localizers for way more than just literal translation. mass market products being released internationally have a lot of considerations.
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i think of a company like bandai namco who has been guilty of trying this for years and they'll still front the cash to put out a half-decent translation of a big release because they've been hit with enough complaints about machine translating srw and gundam games before that they at least know if they try to run literally everything through a machine forever even if it's something extremely dialog heavy that will in fact negatively reflect on how people view them. they do it but they only do it in the areas they know they can get away with it now and especially if it's a big release like armored core they're not putting their reputation on the line to save a few bucks on a game that is already easy money
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this thread has a lot of threes and fives in it by the way
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Looking forward to someone AI translating Wild Arms 2 and the AI just killing itself halfway through.
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people like to talk about square enix business heads with dumb ai poo poo proposals. the key is that none of this will ever reflect on the games square enix actually releases because if they tried shoving it into anything other than a cheapo contracted out mobile game pet project it would not be pretty, among other things they have enough familiarity with the era of bad tls to know having good tls makes a difference
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ImpAtom posted:Like to be clear, Eiyden's cast contains: What I was getting at is Bob is a black man normally and the werewolf thing is only for fights. Actually with a cast this large how are the characters themselves writing wise? Like I'm not expecting everyone to get spotlight during the main story, but do they at least have side stuff?
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Electric Phantasm posted:What I was getting at is Bob is a black man normally and the werewolf thing is only for fights. Like Suikoden, it depends on the characters. Some characters get more than others, like the chef dude gets his own dramatic chef plotline but Yumi and Friend basically just show up rarely to interact with other kid characters.
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I'm really enjoying the voice acting/direction of Eiyuden in English. There's a lot more voiced lines than I expected. They had a lot of fun yelling into the mic.
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ImpAtom posted:Like to be clear, Eiyden's cast contains: no young lich? diversity fail
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