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Sometimes I miss things in WoW. I may have posted this before. I forget. But every so often, I am just reminded of something. Earlier today I remember running through STV at low level to get to BB for the flight point and the boat. On a PVP server. PVP servers sucked. That run sucked. It was exciting, true. But not really a good way to spend time.
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# ? May 26, 2024 15:51 |
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Raiding in WoW during the wrath of the lich king era was one of the biggest blows to my faith in humanity I've ever experienced. Even the hard mode raids were extremely easy mechanically - there was never anything unexpected happening, they didn't require perfect play or anything and all you needed to beat them were some incredibly low-level video game skills. But getting 10 or 25 people to all exhibit incredibly low-level videogame skills for 5 minutes at a time was such an incredible clusterfuck that I spiraled into a deep depression realizing that a significant population of people can't handle something like "press E for 2 seconds when a giant red circle appears on your screen and the game plays a loud warning noise and someone announces on voice chat that you should press E for 2 seconds" consistently. I mean I also spiraled into a deep depression because I was playing WoW but my faith in people never fully recovered.
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I think it's mostly people hyper focusing on their optimal skill rotation to the point where they ignore the actual game parts happening around them because they can't pay attention to the boss AND their class's gimmick meter / skill cooldowns at the same time
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 06:59 |
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The best raiders in the world are also the best at just playing Simon Says makes you think
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 07:15 |
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Raids in eq and eq2 were a lot of fun because a lot of the time they were so goddamn hard you had to think creatively
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 07:17 |
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GigNTIX IA Bxk BBbbbby MOzuuuuu. Hmmm yeah I could fix this post but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't help anyone here it's not like anybody played it/plays it.
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 07:30 |
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SilvergunSuperman posted:Raids in eq and eq2 were a lot of fun because a lot of the time they were so goddamn hard you had to think creatively Everquest in general was insanely hard. Dying made you lose like 8 hours of grinding and the fact that you could lose your corpse is a far too powerful mechanic for any modern MMO player.
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 07:33 |
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It's funny because eq is veery slow to level but it wouldn't have been nearly so bad if the servers weren't packed to the tits. Sitting at a camp with like 4ish spawns every half hourish plus whatever pulls you can nab with 6 people, fuckin hell lol.
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 08:05 |
People always talk about Wrath like it's so great but I tried some of those time shifted raids and they were so much walking down boring hallways to fight bosses that spent longer talking than it takes to kill them.
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 08:09 |
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Being good at mmos is like being good at commuting.
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 08:34 |
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The upside with modern MMOs (including old ones that are still active) is in most cases they're free to play up to a certain level or just straight up free with microtransactions, so you can just get your fill if you have some nostalgia for them and then just bounce. One of the smartest things they ever did with FF14 is make it so you feel free (and are encourage) to just take a break between expansions. Them being free means its also really easy to just rope in a friend or two and just muck around for a bit without any pressure to grind or commit longterm, and if you really want to grind making a second character is usually also free or cheap.
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 09:01 |
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Redezga posted:The upside with modern MMOs... Sadly, the downside is that they're mostly bad games.
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 09:13 |
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Warcraft was great, back in the day I couldn't understand why people cared about the pvp though
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 09:58 |
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Oh since my 3 month break I've played 42 games of dota and won 22 of them so I've got better
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 10:06 |
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jokes posted:It has far more words than any book in existence So does Word Muncher if you play it for long enough.
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 10:32 |
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Open PVP was the only good thing about WoW
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 11:14 |
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JollyBoyJohn posted:Oh since my 3 month break I've played 42 games of dota and won 22 of them so I've got better But why, JBJ? Why? You were out! You escaped! Why go back?
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 11:53 |
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itry posted:But why, JBJ? Why? You were out! You escaped! Why go back? Well, I found out the nes only has about 20 good games, then beat dark souls for the 5th time and thats kinda all there is too it
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 12:04 |
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JollyBoyJohn posted:Well, I found out the nes only has about 20 good games, then beat dark souls for the 5th time and thats kinda all there is too it And what about the SNES, GBA, DS/3DS, or even the PSP? That's like another dozen or so of good games.
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 12:20 |
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itry posted:And what about the SNES, GBA, DS/3DS, or even the PSP? That's like another dozen or so of good games. I did beat astro boy to be fair
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 12:35 |
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Oh, well. Fair enough I suppose.
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 12:50 |
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Relapses happen to everyone and we can't be too hard on him, all we can do is show our concern and that we care about him.
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 13:11 |
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i just noticed that dark souls 1 is only 3.8gb and now games are 100 gb but are the graphics really 25 times as good?
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 13:28 |
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roomtone posted:i just noticed that dark souls 1 is only 3.8gb 12.5 times cuz remastered is roughly twice the size
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 13:42 |
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roomtone posted:i just noticed that dark souls 1 is only 3.8gb 25 copies of Dark Souls = 1 Elden Ring
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 14:07 |
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Rings have a lot of polygons okay, they are much heavier than souls.
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 14:16 |
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playing fallout 4 i think every crafting system would be improved if you could just spend the game's money to buy the materials on the same menu as crafting the thing. this costs x steel, x gears, x wood, or 500 zenny. does anybody enjoy going ah cool, i'm one piece of copper short to make this item. time for a treasure hunt! you can keep the collectibles you need to justify your open world, they can discount the price, just give me the option to bypass it by using money.
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 15:17 |
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roomtone posted:playing fallout 4 For me, and, this is very very subjective, but, Fallout is the 'one' place where I actually quite like having to rummage around for specific stuff. Only because, you see all this tut in the world, and it makes sense that it's there, but it's mostly all actually garbage. But you see it and think, "You could probably actually USE some old screws" or whatever, and so, when you 'can', it feels good. You might come across an old flag, and think "I wonder if at some point there will be some history nut that's after this flag" and, there might be! But there equally might not. One man's trash is another mans treasure, and all that. I mean, In the fallout world, the money is just bottlecaps, which is still just more crap, y'know? It means you're actually foraging for poo poo. Real poo poo that exists in the world for a reason, but making do with the bits and bobs that you find useful. If it was just generic interchangeable 'trash items' that would be less immersive. I DO think that typically it's just busywork, I sympathise with the general statement. I just feel like Fallout in particular is a world of trash, that you can make diamonds out of.
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 15:47 |
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crafting is stupid poo poo for morons who wear shirts that say "Nobody cares, work harder!"
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 16:38 |
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Replace crafting with Kraft™ing, all in on Mac and Cheese.
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 16:40 |
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William Henry Hairytaint posted:crafting is stupid poo poo for morons who wear shirts that say "Nobody cares, work harder!" They're one of the ways the whole bar goes up psychology has kind of hit literally every genre of game now. Everyone knows what's addictive and just mashes that button.
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 16:46 |
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picking up swords and guns off of bodies is much more fun than building them in a menu after picking up ingots or whatever
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 16:54 |
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But modifying existing stuff, now that's pretty cool.
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 17:13 |
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roomtone posted:i just noticed that dark souls 1 is only 3.8gb I realized a while back that all this theoretical extra power post PS360 consoles an PCs have all added up to nothing more than a way for developers to be lazy and not optimize their games at all. Like Titanfall’s obscene 48gb install is all just 35gb of uncompressed audio. rather than high-end super-duper realistic graphics and physics. None of these games are actually that big, the devs just have no reason to bother making them well.
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 18:23 |
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Redezga posted:Them being free means its also really easy to just rope in a friend or two and just muck around for a bit without any pressure to grind or commit longterm, and if you really want to grind making a second character is usually also free or cheap. ff14 doesn't let free players form parties lol
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 19:48 |
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Fallout 4's crafting creates that weird issue where 99% of the garbage around you could be useful but it's just decorative debris; you can't pick any of it up. Perfectly good bookshelf could be easily dismantled and you'd have pre-cut boards ready to go, but no, you have to get wood resources from things like toy horses.
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 19:51 |
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Fur20 posted:ff14 doesn't let free players form parties lol There was a workaround where you could beg a paying player to put you in a party together. Honestly the most fun part of playing IMO.
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 19:58 |
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Khanstant posted:I went from level 1 to like 25 or 30 before quitting. People claim that's the worst part and bla bla it gets sooo good but nobody can really say why and you have to have severe MMO addiction to even be able to get passed all the terrible things MMO players just expect to put up with. I had multiple people tell me it was very good, but the base game sucks you have to get to the expansions, so I did and I still felt like I was slogging through it and when asked they said no, it's the SECOND expansion where it really gets good and I turned it off to play Risk of Rain 2 instead
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 20:01 |
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I am forever tempted to do that because I want more Matsuno.
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# ? Apr 23, 2024 20:21 |
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# ? May 26, 2024 15:51 |
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The good old days when games had to be under 4GB so they’d fit on a DVD.
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