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VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

It's like how if you're the government and you're going to do 9/11 so you can take advantage of the fear and hysteria to suspend the constitution and institute dictatorship, first you advertise your guilt widely by printing drawings of burning towers on the currency that everyone's grandma can discover with a little help from a fwd:fwd: email showing them how to fold it, and then to make sure your unmistakable guilt is obvious you just dynamite building 7 instead of flying a third plane into it.

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World Famous W
May 25, 2007

BAAAAAAAAAAAA

darthbob88 posted:

I did Blue Apron meal kits for a little bit, as part of relearning how to cook worth a drat, and I remember running into some difficulty with a recipe saying (IIRC) "now that you've cooked the pasta, pass it through a strainer and rinse it with cold water". I sent them feedback over it saying "I'm a bachelor in a poorly-furnished kitchen. Could you let me know ahead of time if a recipe requires utensils like a strainer, zester, box grater, etc?"
if ya got lid for your pot, ya got a strainer for pasta

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

World Famous W posted:

if ya got lid for your pot, ya got a strainer for pasta

Don't even got to strain it really. If you have tongs just grab the pasta from the water pot, put it in the sauce pot. It's fine. You can hold it and let it drip dry for a minute if you really want.

But that's back on Blue Apron, if you're writing instructions for beginners you've got to really write instructions for beginners.

It's a brand new skill. Straining with a lid isn't hard to figure out but the first time you do something it's a little overwhelming and you might not think of things like that

VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Apr 24, 2024

World Famous W
May 25, 2007

BAAAAAAAAAAAA
yeah, not making GBS threads on anyone's cooking skills. more a helpful tip

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Yeah I know you weren't, cooking tips ftw. I'm just saying why cooking can be so intimidating.

I use tongs because I like bringing a little of the salty pasta over along with the noodles personally (learned that when I made cappelini pomodoro, where you want that)

Straining it and giving it a cold water bath is really only for if you're anal about perfectly al dente pasta but idgaf if my noodles are a little soft so I don't bother with it.

Some of these recipes are written like you're competing on Iron Chef and David Ramsay or whoever is going to yell at you for limp noodles, but man it still tastes fine most of us are just trying to eat for the week without investing a ton of time.

VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Apr 24, 2024

Neito
Feb 18, 2009

😌Finally, an avatar the describes my love of tech❤️‍💻, my love of anime💖🎎, and why I'll never see a real girl 🙆‍♀️naked😭.

VitalSigns posted:

Yeah it's all stupid prejudice: they think disabled people are inferior subhumans. Someone in a wheelchair can't possess human faculties other than working legs, no, they must have an inferior brain too.

But it's very funny that their other big piece of "evidence" (how can a quadriplegic who can't hold a pen write a book) is completely disproven by their other insult ("he has a computer voice")

E: gotta love how the illuminati always leave very obvious clues. They could have trotted out a handsome athletic witty guy with a great speaking voice and said he wrote the books and no one would be the wiser, but instead they wheeled out a vegetable and pretended the computer voicebox was his because (???) They wanted the biggest morons on Facebook to see right through their gambit easily?

It's magic.

No, literally, the theory is that the illumnati put all these symbols in public because there's some sort of magic power involved.

It's also them flexing and flaunting that they're so in control that they don't need to make sensable stories anymore.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus
I had a gift sub to blue apron for a bit and it did actually help me up my cooking game quite a bit from some of the more subtle things, like zesting the lime you're using in the recipe to punch up the rice. And then from there I spent a lot of time looking up recipes online and giving poo poo a try. This was during pandemic unemployment though, now that I'm back to work I'm falling back on quick stir fry a lot more.

TremorX
Jan 19, 2001

All Hail Big Hairy Mike

My problem is ADHD, I start cooking, then I have to do something like go to the bathroom or something comes on TV that distracts me and I forget entirely about the cooking until I smell the burning, and even then I'm like "poo poo I hope I'm not having a stroke" before I remember I was indeed cooking

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Professor Beetus posted:

I had a gift sub to blue apron for a bit and it did actually help me up my cooking game quite a bit from some of the more subtle things, like zesting the lime you're using in the recipe to punch up the rice. And then from there I spent a lot of time looking up recipes online and giving poo poo a try.
Yeah I did a week of Hello Fresh on the cheap with a coupon just to try it out, and yeah they could do better to keep from tripping up beginners, but still I think it's a good way to get started, or just to learn some recipes.

But I'm skeptical the businesses will last after VC money runs out because it's just not a replacement for cooking or eating out imo

1. Most of the recipes didn't make enough food. If I have to make a sandwich after most meals am I even saving time
2. Not feasible. The only real way to cook with a full time job is meal prep a batch once or twice a week. Having to come home tired from work and then cook is why people don't do it, meal kits are slightly easier but it's still 20-45 minutes every night, and then there's the cleanup.
3. Why would anyone pay for this long term? One you're familiar with the recipes and you know what ingredients you need...curbside pickup and grocery delivery exist. And are cheaper since you can bulk buy spices etc once you're cooking regularly. Also again, ability to meal prep in bulk so you only cook and clean once a week.

socialsecurity
Aug 30, 2003

VitalSigns posted:

Yeah I did a week of Hello Fresh on the cheap with a coupon just to try it out, and yeah they could do better to keep from tripping up beginners, but still I think it's a good way to get started, or just to learn some recipes.

But I'm skeptical the businesses will last after VC money runs out because it's just not a replacement for cooking or eating out imo

1. Most of the recipes didn't make enough food. If I have to make a sandwich after most meals am I even saving time
2. Not feasible. The only real way to cook with a full time job is meal prep a batch once or twice a week. Having to come home tired from work and then cook is why people don't do it, meal kits are slightly easier but it's still 20-45 minutes every night, and then there's the cleanup.
3. Why would anyone pay for this long term? One you're familiar with the recipes and you know what ingredients you need...curbside pickup and grocery delivery exist. And are cheaper since you can bulk buy spices etc once you're cooking regularly. Also again, ability to meal prep in bulk so you only cook and clean once a week.

Yeah Hello Fresh wanted me to make fresh aioli and mayo and the such every single meal. I feel they didn't quite get their target market, I hear them and others offer simpler options now but the pricing is still insane.

soviet elsa
Feb 22, 2024
lover of cats and snow
I love cooking and don’t find it a pain to make a big recipe after work. But that’s the thing, it is my cool down. I don’t blame anyone who does not want to.

I heard the various food subscription boxes are targeted at super helpless tech bro types. “I make six figures but live out of my car most days”, that type.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Yeah. I mean they gave you the packets so you squeeze into a bowl and stir so not the worst, but yeah extra steps like that to make it a little more froo froo fancy didn't make a lot of sense for the people who would presumably be using the service. Man, I'm tired, I had a long day, a pre-mixed chili sauce packet would have tasted just fine.

And yeah the price. Yes it is cheaper than eating out. But is it cheap enough so it's worth cooking and washing pots and pans every night? Or alternatively, the grocery store is even cheaper so is there enough time savings to justify the extra cost? No not really imo.

Arguably takes more time when you consider it takes just as long to wash a pot that boiled soup for 2 meals as a pot that made soup for 10.

soviet elsa posted:

I love cooking and don’t find it a pain to make a big recipe after work. But that’s the thing, it is my cool down. I don’t blame anyone who does not want to.
Same for me. I love to cook and it is relaxing for me luckily, but still, doing it 5 nights in a row made it into a chore. And doing dishes is not a cooldown for me at all.

Targeting it at rich tech bros doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Those guys are rich enough to eat out, if they're manchildren will they want to use meal prep kits, and if they are thrifty enough to want to save money and willing to put in the cooking work, why would they need this long term when the grocery store is cheaper and it's not even any harder once you have enough practice to know what to do.

VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Apr 24, 2024

Dirk the Average
Feb 7, 2012

"This may have been a mistake."

TremorX posted:

My problem is ADHD, I start cooking, then I have to do something like go to the bathroom or something comes on TV that distracts me and I forget entirely about the cooking until I smell the burning, and even then I'm like "poo poo I hope I'm not having a stroke" before I remember I was indeed cooking

Honestly that's why I do things on timers. Bone in, skin on chicken thighs (much cheaper that way), season them with whatever seasoning blend you enjoy and/or add some bbq sauce on top, set the oven/toaster oven for 35-40 minutes at 350 or so and it'll be done with no extra effort. My toaster oven shuts itself off, so I can do whatever and come back to finished protein, then just microwave some frozen veggies and be done with it.

Do a stew in a slow cooker or instant pot - same chicken thighs, chop up some potatoes or sweet potatoes, chop up some carrots or other veggies (do NOT add broccoli before cooking, it becomes vile if stewed too long; squashes are good though, as are beans), add some seasoning, add a little white wine if you want, add some water, set the cooker, come back to delicious stew. Add some frozen veggies at this point if you want more veggies. I also like adding in some japanese curry bricks because it's goddamn delicious.

They aren't fancy dishes, but they're made from scratch from extremely useful tools, which makes the meals fairly inexpensive. Also are quite tasty, the prep time is low, and there's no chance of burning anything because the devices turn themselves off.

Runcible Cat
May 28, 2007

Ignoring this post

VitalSigns posted:

Especially dumb because mathematics and theoretical physics is nothing but reading and thinking about stuff, activities very appropriate for someone in a wheelchair to do!

Although from the meme it sounds like the disbelief is mainly about writing books, as though the only way to write is by hand with a quill pen or something. Clearly every book ever written was done laboriously by hand, what's dictation.

And even more especially dumb that they acknowledge he has a "computer voice". How does that computer know what words to generate? Because Stephen is capable of communicating input to it. So if he can communicate words that a computer speaks, it can simply print those words instead.

I saw him speak decades ago, before the computer voice, when his communication system was "his students who'd been around him long enough to understand what he was saying and pass it on".

I took my my mum and she thought it was the coolest thing ever.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

ADHD makes it hard to remember to set a timer! :(
But yes, timers. Set one before you wander away from the stove and pick up a game controller. You're not going to remember to stir every 15 minutes, but hopefully you can remember why the stove is beeping in time!


Runcible Cat posted:

I saw him speak decades ago, before the computer voice, when his communication system was "his students who'd been around him long enough to understand what he was saying and pass it on".

I took my my mum and she thought it was the coolest thing ever.
Obviously the students were really doing the talking and just pretending to understand him, open your eyes sheeple

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
I was going to snark what kind of recipe says to rinse pasta, but then a post above gave an example of it being useful.

still learning things.

also while these general meal/cook kits are fine, I think some of the niche ones are dumb.

darthbob88
Oct 13, 2011

YOSPOS

PhazonLink posted:

I was going to snark what kind of recipe says to rinse pasta, but then a post above gave an example of it being useful.

still learning things.
I probably misremembered the recipe. It may have been asking me to rinse rice instead. Point was, I needed a utensil I didn't have and had to improvise.

The worse case was a recipe that asked me to zest a lime to add a bit of flavor to rice. I didn't have a zester, so instead I just cut off chunks of lime peel and chopped them up. Instead of a nice hint of lime throughout the dish, I got occasional flavor bombs of bitterness.

quote:

also while these general meal/cook kits are fine, I think some of the niche ones are dumb.
Honestly, I like some of the niche kits because they offer new cuisines. Left to my own devices, I wouldn't make something like Curried Chicken, Poblano & Figs with Mustard Seed Rice for dinner, I'd settle for something simple and boring like baked chicken and vegetables.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

You could be remembering correctly, a lot of recipes say to pour cold water on pasta to stop it cooking immediately after it's done so it doesn't get soft but unless you're serving snobs in an expensive restaurant who cares.

You also don't need a zester, cheese grater works fine, but if you didn't have a strainer maybe you didn't have a grater either. Zesting rice sounds kinda silly though, rice is already damp and the lemon has juice in it, use a dash of that?

Idk zesting is annoying because you have to be careful not to grate the bitter white part (as you found out) so I don't want to do it unless it really matters like a fancy dessert or a cocktail or something.

Dirk the Average
Feb 7, 2012

"This may have been a mistake."

VitalSigns posted:

ADHD makes it hard to remember to set a timer! :(

The beauty of the recipes that I just mentioned are that you literally set the timer on the machine. My toaster oven only functions with a timer - when you hit start on bake, it counts down from the timer that you set. A slow cooker or an instant pot also only really function with timers. They also shut off when the timer goes off, so there's 0% chance of burning anything, and even if you're late on grabbing the food, it'll still be warm for a long time after the timer goes off. Those recipes are about as set it and forget it as you can get.

von Metternich
May 7, 2007
Why the hell not?

Neito posted:

It's magic.

No, literally, the theory is that the illumnati put all these symbols in public because there's some sort of magic power involved.

It's also them flexing and flaunting that they're so in control that they don't need to make sensable stories anymore.

Yeah, Alex Jones is one of the people who's dumb enough to say it openly, the magic power only works ("Sympathetic magic", not that that's what that means) if you do it openly. Possibly because God makes the rules so Christians have to have a chance to figure it out? Unclear.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬
:stare:

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

quote:

What does "Democracy" mean, as applied to our government?

They say, “If Trump is re-elected, he will end Democracy.”
Do you know why they are saying this?
What will Trump Do to 'end Democracy'?

From the knowledge I gained in recent months, I agree with them.

I finally understand why they (hillary, biden, pelosi, schumer, romney, chenney) profess this phrase vehemently. These people (and many others) are plugged into The Blob.

Background:
I stopped watching the news after the 2016 election, and I did not start watching it again until a couple months before the 2018 election. The political media coverage was unrecognizable as anything fair and balanced, and I could not understand what I was seeing.

Due to my fresh eyes seeing the vicious attacks against Trump in combination with the lack of context from the previous 18 months of media stories, I could not make sense of the situations. The reactions were on a level of hate I have never seen against a public person. I’ve been searching for an explanation that could reconcile this confusion since that time.

Which resulted in my years-long Thought Experiment:
“How did we get here?”

Now, I know the answer:
World War II.


Is Trump an existential threat to Democracy if elected in 2024?

Well, yes. But, what does “Democracy” mean….

Without World War II we would never have arrived at the political state of the world that we are in now. World War II has been thoroughly examined for the cause and the events that took place. But, the TRUE motivation behind the recovery plan and the political environment at that time is much less well-known to most people. In the aftermath of the War, the politics of the Western World changed from a Colonial Model to a Neo-Liberal Capitalistic Model by mandate. This meant the powerful Countries of the world can no longer conquer foreign lands by force, and Sovereign Nations would choose their desired form of Governance and Political Leaders by vote.

The CIA and the Marshall plan, which was designed by Secretary of State George Marshall (not Congress), went hand-in-hand to overturn governments and control the world. They funded Radio Free <Europe, Asia, etc.> companies to control the narratives, and established CIA Stations in each area. The state department, the DOD and the CIA all worked together to put a face of diplomacy on covert operations. They wrote the manual for Color Revolutions, and it has been used repeatedly for decades around the world. This was new to the world in the 1950’s due to the recent advancements in technology, so it was not obvious what was really happening. Even to this day, people do not want to accept the level of covert corruption that happens right in front of us.

The Neo liberal capitalist system came out of World War II. The U.S. had ramped domestic production to extreme levels during the War, and it needed to find a way to export our capacity around the world to generate massive profits. This new Capitalist system fears two things:
1) Right/Left-Wing Nationalists (Populists), which will resist global trade and focus internally to make their own lives better, ahead of the Global Community.
2) Left-Wing Communism, where the State owns all the resources in the country so foreign governments can’t steal them through business deals.

The solution for the Populist case is to declare these groups “Domestic Terrorists” and label them as an existential threat to our Democracy. Then use Institutional Media (which has been influenced by the Intelligence Agencies since the 1940’s) to relentlessly repeat a supporting narrative. Over time the credibility of these Populist Groups are degraded in the court of public opinion. At this point, the members of these groups can be publicly shamed, arrested, prosecuted, bankrupted, or outright killed, and the Country would see it as a solved problem. Historical examples include McCarthyism’s attack on the left-wing Populists in the 1950’s; the assassination of MLK Jr. to end the rise of his Populist movement; the assassination of Malcom X to end the rise of his Populist movement; and most recently, the arrest and prosecution of the leaders in the MAGA Populist movement and continuous political, financial, and legal prosecution against Trump, who is now labeled a future Dictator if elected.

The solution for the Communist case is to overthrow the “Dictatorship” Government in a given Country and put somebody who represents “Democracy” in power. Gene Sharp, from the Einstein Institute in Massachusetts, is credited for creating the CIA’s definitive guide to effectuate a Color Revolution, and the process was used to overthrow over 100 Regimes between 1947 and 2016. The plan included having the new “Democratic” Government privatize industries and allow Our Country to take control of the previously State-owned resources for huge profits.

This model of “Democracy” is called “Institutional Democracy.” It is a type of Democracy where the Institutions vote on policy, not the people. They know what is “best for the Country.”

Why did Hillary spend over $1.2 Billion in her campaign for the Presidency? Because the President appoints the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Defense, and the Director of the CIA. These (3) positions control the organizations that form the core of The Blob (it is noteworthy to point out that these are unelected individuals controlling World Events via our Government). Trillions of dollars in Global Capital is at risk if the wrong people are appointed. You can look back over the past 40+ years, and you will see the same people rotating through these positions, and in some cases, generations are represented.

THIS IS THE “DEMOCRACY” that could end if Trump is re-elected. INSTITUTIONAL DEMOCRACY.

Reframe:
Trump is an Existential Threat to Democracy.
TO:
Trump is an Existential Threat to INSTITUTIONAL Democracy.

It is true that Trump might seriously damage the current state of Institutional Democracy. This could disrupt Global Markets. We need to make a decision to try to move back to a Populist model of Governance or allow the Institutions to continually and increasingly control our lives. Neither option has a guaranteed outcome, and the opportunity to effectuate this Populist Movement is only possible now because of the recent explosion of Social Media Independence. This window of Internet Freedom might be short-lived. The Censorship Industry has grown dramatically since 2016, and The Blob is actively using it to gain back control of The Narrative. It is already happening in the EU and Canada.

...
Credit for any accuracies above to my Professors who continue to educate me:

Dilbert Guy (
@ScottAdamsSays
)
Robert Barnes (
@barnes_law
)
Mike Benz (
@MikeBenzCyber
)
CC:
@elonmusk
> thanks for buying X

jjack229
Feb 14, 2008
Articulate your needs. I'm here to listen.

Medullah posted:

Credit for any accuracies above to my Professors who continue to educate me:

Dilbert Guy (
@ScottAdamsSays
)
Robert Barnes (
@barnes_law
)
Mike Benz (
@MikeBenzCyber
)
CC:
@elonmusk
> thanks for buying X

Need to start using this in my email signature.

CellBlock
Oct 6, 2005

It just don't stop.



I like Hello Fresh; I've been doing it for years, but I'll admit that it only solves problems that feel like they're specific to me, in that 1) a lot of ingredients only come in bulk and don't keep long enough for me to use them up and 2) if left to my own devices to grocery shop for meals, I'll basically get the same things every week. Each recipe does tell you what you need to use (whether it's pots/pans, foil, a peeler, or ingredients like butter, oil, or salt/pepper that they don't include in the boxes).

Picking out the 3 meals a week I want and getting a box of ingredients at my door is nice. (Also, being single, each meal for 2 is 2 meals for me, so a whole week of dinners means only having to cook 3 times, so I can schedule that around work, socializing, etc.) Sometimes, I'll get an extra meal in one box and skip the next to leave space for just ordering a pizza or something once in a while. (Or going out or whatever.)

It does seem like the average consumer isn't looking for this particular product, though. (Which is probably why they're buying up similar companies, like Factor (pre-cooked meals) and Good Chop (subscription service for just meats).

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

CellBlock posted:

I like Hello Fresh; I've been doing it for years, but I'll admit that it only solves problems that feel like they're specific to me, in that 1) a lot of ingredients only come in bulk and don't keep long enough for me to use them up...

Yeah, this is a huge problem for me as well.
My girlfriend doesn't eat a whole lot, and I don't eat as much as I used to, so it's hard to want to buy an ingredient that only seems to come in Extended Family size.
Same with wanting to do something like a lasagna, because I can only scale the recipe down so much and I'm still going to spend a bunch of money on more ingredients than I need in order to make a single dish that I only make like once a month.

I've got a cookbook that's supposed to focus on recipes for 2 where everything is scaled down for you, but, it seems to still heavily involve just "Ok, you're stuck buying the jumbo box, so here's how to store the rest."
But then I've still got a house full of ingredients that I don't need and aren't going to keep long enough with our work schedules the way they are.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Probably still cheaper to idk buy a whole onion and throw half of it away than for Hello Fresh to ship you exactly half an onion or whatever in their meal kit, but I can see how the former feels more wasteful.

But yeah I guess HelloFresh would make more sense if they have say meals for 4 or 6 that you could feed 2 people with for multiple days. I don't remember if they do, but it seems like they ought to since they'd presumably want to market it to families, right? Or I suppose you could just order 3 of the same meal and triple the recipe all in one night.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

I remember just laughing and laughing at the single egg in a single-egg carton when I was given a subscription as a gift.

darthbob88
Oct 13, 2011

YOSPOS

Brawnfire posted:

I remember just laughing and laughing at the single egg in a single-egg carton when I was given a subscription as a gift.
Blue Apron brags that 85% of their packaging is recyclable. On the one hand that's very good, but on the other hand, that packaging only exists because they're sending you one (1) individually packaged cup of rice, a teaspoon sachet of spices, and a plastic bottle with 2 tablespoons of soy sauce.

LonsomeSon
Nov 22, 2009

A fishperson in an intimidating hat!

Also, critically, the vast majority of plastic recycling is a lie and almost none of the plastic a meal kit ships you could be recycled even if it was possible, because it’s contaminated with food.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

LonsomeSon posted:

Also, critically, the vast majority of plastic recycling is a lie
Yeah, the Romanian environmental group Ce Respir? proved that a lot of plastic 'recycling' from around Europe just gets shoved in containers, falsely labelled, and burned there in incinerators from the 70s designed for farm waste (and then ends up in people's lungs and brains). The Times exposed the same happening in the UK. I'd bet money that it happens everywhere else too.




That's probably more energy efficient than trying to recycle most of those small plastic items, but it's still bad.

Scholtz posted:

"Reduce, Reuse, and Recycle" are all separate terms and placed in order of effectiveness.

Herman Merman
Jul 6, 2008

quote:

Credit for any accuracies above to my Professors who continue to educate me:

Dilbert Guy (
@ScottAdamsSays
)
Robert Barnes (
@barnes_law
)
Mike Benz (
@MikeBenzCyber
)
CC:
@elonmusk
> thanks for buying X
cursed as hell

Herman Merman
Jul 6, 2008

Guavanaut posted:

That's probably more energy efficient than trying to recycle most of those small plastic items, but it's still bad.
Incinerating waste that cannot be efficiently recycled, in a modern cogeneration facility, is the best way to get rid of it since it allows you to recover most of the energy content. The only real downside are the CO2 emissions, and they are not worse than in a coal-fired plant.

e: But yeah, it should not happen in small Romanian villages which do not have such facilities

Herman Merman fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Apr 25, 2024

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Yeah the problem there is the modern cogeneration facility bit, it's cheaper to send it to unsuited incinerators with lovely smokestacks in places that aren't nearby.

e: ^^ :hai:

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬
I never understood why it couldn't just be melted back down, even if it's not suitable for whatever parts it could still be used in something like insulation, packing foam, etc.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

Panfilo posted:

I never understood why it couldn't just be melted back down, even if it's not suitable for whatever parts it could still be used in something like insulation, packing foam, etc.

It's cheaper to do the environmentally damaging option while saying you care than to attempt the environmentally good one.

TheDeadlyShoe
Feb 14, 2014

Panfilo posted:

I never understood why it couldn't just be melted back down, even if it's not suitable for whatever parts it could still be used in something like insulation, packing foam, etc.

Complex topic but it boils down to the quality being bad and the price too high compared to new plastic.

There is some experimentation with using bacteria to create new plastic but its in very early stages still.

TheDeadlyShoe fucked around with this message at 01:43 on Apr 26, 2024

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
To contribute to the food thread, get a rice cooker, an air fryer, a cast iron skillet and a slow cooker.

Safety Dance
Sep 10, 2007

Five degrees to starboard!

Panfilo posted:

I never understood why it couldn't just be melted back down, even if it's not suitable for whatever parts it could still be used in something like insulation, packing foam, etc.

A lot of plastic won't melt right, it'll burn.

darthbob88
Oct 13, 2011

YOSPOS

TheDeadlyShoe posted:

Complex topic but it boils down to the quality being bad and the price too high compared to new plastic.

There is some experimentation with using bacteria to create new plastic but its in very early stages still.
I've also heard about some proposals to pyrolyze plastic back to raw hydrocarbons, but again, it's more expensive than just pulling more oil out of the ground.

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the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

BiggerBoat posted:

To contribute to the food thread, get a rice cooker, an air fryer, a cast iron skillet and a slow cooker.

Agree.
It's wild how much you can do with an air fryer.

Also, with the slow cooker, buy slow cooker liners. They are your friend.

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